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Re: Holy Offseason I Can’t Believe it’s July FA/Trade/Waiver Thread 

Post#1041 » by ThePigeon » Sun Jul 6, 2025 7:02 am

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darrendaye wrote:
As a proponent of a Simons for Vucevic trade, I would like to end the year with Queta and Garza taking the center minutes if Tatum does not make a return.

This is kinda why I don't want Vuc or Nurk. Let's just roll with the guys we got. We're weak at PF too. So, as long as a salary saving trade brings back someone 6'9" or taller, I'm happy.


Yep, PF is looking like Niang, Tillman, Minott. Walsh, Norris. I did warn the forum, Tillman

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Post#1042 » by 31to6 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 10:28 am

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brackdan70 wrote:It does. Claxton was bad last year country previous years though….maybe just a product of being on a tanking team.
I think Nets probably are asking more than we want to pay


any traction with Simons for John Collins? Or is he going to sign an extension in Utah and that complicates things?
(I know this trade doesn't solve anything; just rebalances our height a bit)


I think thats more of an idea, rather than a trade thats being talked about. I kind of like it though. Simons is the better player, but Collins balances the roster better. Collins males a million bucks less too.

You could wrap it into the Portland trade to do Tillman and Simons for John Collins. Gets us a roster spot.

The other Utah trade that works is Hauser and Tilman for Walker Kessler. Jazz take Hauser into their MLE. Cs probably need to throw in draft capital.


Right, I don’t mean that a trade for Collins has been rumored, just that it’s one of the more obvious 1-for-1 potential contract matches for Simons where we cut a little salary with his current deal. That said, I don’t see the motivation for Utah.

I don’t think Kessler is realistically available, seems like one of the few building blocks they’ve got out there.
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Post#1043 » by 31to6 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 10:29 am

Jellybeans wrote:LOL we are in cap hell and now people want center who earns 25-20 mil for next 3 seasons and cant shoot :lol:
Twitter is even worse.
Like 80% of free agents or someone who would get traded is full of delusional Boston fans and keep saying we want him.


Which center are you talking about?
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Post#1044 » by Fierce1 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 10:38 am

31to6 wrote:
Jellybeans wrote:LOL we are in cap hell and now people want center who earns 25-20 mil for next 3 seasons and cant shoot :lol:
Twitter is even worse.
Like 80% of free agents or someone who would get traded is full of delusional Boston fans and keep saying we want him.


Which center are you talking about?

I think he's referring to Claxton.
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Post#1045 » by winsomme2 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 11:45 am

Fierce1 wrote:
31to6 wrote:
Jellybeans wrote:LOL we are in cap hell and now people want center who earns 25-20 mil for next 3 seasons and cant shoot :lol:
Twitter is even worse.
Like 80% of free agents or someone who would get traded is full of delusional Boston fans and keep saying we want him.


Which center are you talking about?

I think he's referring to Claxton.


I'm still kinda wrestling with the our second round pick management. Obviously, if Amari looks like a legit talent, it will help a lot, but I still don't understand why Brad didn't do more to secure Rasheer. It couldn't have cost that much to trade up one spot. Couldn't he have called Danny and said "hey if you get an offer for your pick can you give me a chance to make a counter offer?" I mean it's Danny...

Even if Brad was down on Kalk and Max (which I also kinda don't understand), getting Rasheer would have helped our other weakest position which is PF. Rasheer could even play some small ball center.

I can't help but think that given our precarious big man situation, he should have been more aggressive.

If Amari hits, then it was a master move because of the extra picks, but I really think he could have done more to secure Rasheer.
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Post#1046 » by Fierce1 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 12:08 pm

winsomme2 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
31to6 wrote:
Which center are you talking about?

I think he's referring to Claxton.


I'm still kinda wrestling with the our second round pick management. Obviously, if Amari looks like a legit talent, it will help a lot, but I still don't understand why Brad didn't do more to secure Rasheer. It couldn't have cost that much to trade up one spot. Couldn't he have called Danny and said "hey if you get an offer for your pick can you give me a chance to make a counter offer?" I mean it's Danny...

Even if Brad was down on Kalk and Max (which I also kinda don't understand), getting Rasheer would have helped our other weakest position which is PF. Rasheer could even play some small ball center.

I can't help but think that given our precarious big man situation, he should have been more aggressive.

If Amari hits, then it was a master move because of the extra picks, but I really think he could have done more to secure Rasheer.

Only Brad and management know why.

Just trust Brad, I guess.

But I was also surprised they traded the #32 pick.
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Post#1047 » by winsomme2 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 12:16 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
winsomme2 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:I think he's referring to Claxton.


I'm still kinda wrestling with the our second round pick management. Obviously, if Amari looks like a legit talent, it will help a lot, but I still don't understand why Brad didn't do more to secure Rasheer. It couldn't have cost that much to trade up one spot. Couldn't he have called Danny and said "hey if you get an offer for your pick can you give me a chance to make a counter offer?" I mean it's Danny...

Even if Brad was down on Kalk and Max (which I also kinda don't understand), getting Rasheer would have helped our other weakest position which is PF. Rasheer could even play some small ball center.

I can't help but think that given our precarious big man situation, he should have been more aggressive.

If Amari hits, then it was a master move because of the extra picks, but I really think he could have done more to secure Rasheer.

Only Brad and management know why.

Just trust Brad, I guess.

But I was also surprised they traded the #32 pick.


I’m really hoping Amari hits. I do really like his passing skills.
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Post#1048 » by phincsfan » Sun Jul 6, 2025 12:16 pm

Claxton was drafted with the 31st pick. He can rebound but he can't shoot. The NBA game based on stats and minutes started to click for him when he was 23.

Neems is 25 and the Brit is 23. I'm pretty sure one of them can give you his stats if they're given a chance.

No need to pick up a 60+mil contract for the next 3 years.
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Post#1049 » by phincsfan » Sun Jul 6, 2025 12:21 pm

winsomme2 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
31to6 wrote:
Which center are you talking about?

I think he's referring to Claxton.


I'm still kinda wrestling with the our second round pick management. Obviously, if Amari looks like a legit talent, it will help a lot, but I still don't understand why Brad didn't do more to secure Rasheer. It couldn't have cost that much to trade up one spot. Couldn't he have called Danny and said "hey if you get an offer for your pick can you give me a chance to make a counter offer?" I mean it's Danny...

Even if Brad was down on Kalk and Max (which I also kinda don't understand), getting Rasheer would have helped our other weakest position which is PF. Rasheer could even play some small ball center.

I can't help but think that given our precarious big man situation, he should have been more aggressive.

If Amari hits, then it was a master move because of the extra picks, but I really think he could have done more to secure Rasheer.


The thing Kalkbrenner and Reynaud have in common is slow feet. IMO, that was the reason. Seems like they want more uptempo at least for this season.

As for Flemming, most teams passed on him for a reason. Can he fit next to JT and JB? That may have been the issue.
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Post#1050 » by winsomme2 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 12:22 pm

phincsfan wrote:Claxton was drafted with the 31st pick. He can rebound but he can't shoot. The NBA game based on stats and minutes started to click for him when he was 23.

Neems is 25 and the Brit is 23. I'm pretty sure one of them can give you his stats if they're given a chance.

No need to pick up a 60+mil contract for the next 3 years.


I’m not interested in Claxton either.

Man the big man market has gotten intense.
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Post#1051 » by Green89 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 12:30 pm

Fierce1 wrote:https://hoopshype.com/rumor/3739847/

According to an NBA source, Lillard would consider signing with the Celtics, and the Celtics are indeed interested. A few years ago, Lillard wasn’t so keen on coming to Boston when the Trail Blazers were considering trading him. This time, however, he’s open to Boston and he has a close friendship with Tatum, as they played together on the 2020 Team USA in Tokyo.


The fact that he hasn't made a decision yet could point to the fact he's waiting for us to make some moves to shed salary, and free up the mid level exception vs. the vet's minimum.
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Post#1052 » by Fierce1 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 12:49 pm

Green89 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:https://hoopshype.com/rumor/3739847/

According to an NBA source, Lillard would consider signing with the Celtics, and the Celtics are indeed interested. A few years ago, Lillard wasn’t so keen on coming to Boston when the Trail Blazers were considering trading him. This time, however, he’s open to Boston and he has a close friendship with Tatum, as they played together on the 2020 Team USA in Tokyo.


The fact that he hasn't made a decision yet could point to the fact he's waiting for us to make some moves to shed salary, and free up the mid level exception vs. the vet's minimum.

Seriously, how much more money does he need?

He's just not in a rush because he will be out for 2025-26.
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Post#1053 » by Patsfan1081 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 12:55 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
winsomme2 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:I think he's referring to Claxton.


I'm still kinda wrestling with the our second round pick management. Obviously, if Amari looks like a legit talent, it will help a lot, but I still don't understand why Brad didn't do more to secure Rasheer. It couldn't have cost that much to trade up one spot. Couldn't he have called Danny and said "hey if you get an offer for your pick can you give me a chance to make a counter offer?" I mean it's Danny...

Even if Brad was down on Kalk and Max (which I also kinda don't understand), getting Rasheer would have helped our other weakest position which is PF. Rasheer could even play some small ball center.

I can't help but think that given our precarious big man situation, he should have been more aggressive.

If Amari hits, then it was a master move because of the extra picks, but I really think he could have done more to secure Rasheer.

Only Brad and management know why.

Just trust Brad, I guess.

But I was also surprised they traded the #32 pick.


Appears to me they were set on drafting someone who would except a two way. Which is puzzling when you compare the need at 4/5 vs say Walsh/JD at the end of the bench. I’d say not addressing the need in previous years is more negligent. Grant Williams is the last 4/5 drafted if you throw out the late end flyer on Watson last year. Even the Thunder, with a loaded roster, added Sorber to develop. Who I’d confidently say is better than any big currently on this roster. Brad needs to start working his magic.
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Post#1054 » by Patsfan1081 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 1:00 pm

winsomme2 wrote:
phincsfan wrote:Claxton was drafted with the 31st pick. He can rebound but he can't shoot. The NBA game based on stats and minutes started to click for him when he was 23.

Neems is 25 and the Brit is 23. I'm pretty sure one of them can give you his stats if they're given a chance.

No need to pick up a 60+mil contract for the next 3 years.


I’m not interested in Claxton either.

Man the big man market has gotten intense.


Can’t really be picky when Niang/Quetta is currently your starting 4/5. I can’t think of another team currently on paper with a less talented group at those positions. Most likely Brad’s answer will be someone we haven’t thought of yet.
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Post#1055 » by cloverleaf » Sun Jul 6, 2025 1:27 pm

Patsfan1081 wrote:
winsomme2 wrote:
phincsfan wrote:Claxton was drafted with the 31st pick. He can rebound but he can't shoot. The NBA game based on stats and minutes started to click for him when he was 23.

Neems is 25 and the Brit is 23. I'm pretty sure one of them can give you his stats if they're given a chance.

No need to pick up a 60+mil contract for the next 3 years.


I’m not interested in Claxton either.

Man the big man market has gotten intense.


Can’t really be picky when Niang/Quetta is currently your starting 4/5. I can’t think of another team currently on paper with a less talented group at those positions. Most likely Brad’s answer will be someone we haven’t thought of yet.


Claxton is too expensive for too long for what he gives you. Especially now that we've got PE ownership gutting the team.

And I think Brad can't trade Simons for 30 days? May give us a better big man then?
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Post#1056 » by celtxman » Sun Jul 6, 2025 1:33 pm

phincsfan wrote:Claxton was drafted with the 31st pick. He can rebound but he can't shoot. The NBA game based on stats and minutes started to click for him when he was 23.

Neems is 25 and the Brit is 23. I'm pretty sure one of them can give you his stats if they're given a chance.

No need to pick up a 60+mil contract for the next 3 years.

It would be awesome to develop players with only playing time. But at this point we are starting the season with our 4th string center at tip off. We'd better hope at some point we can actually get a center who makes more than $20 million per.
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Post#1057 » by cloverleaf » Sun Jul 6, 2025 1:46 pm

celtxman wrote:
phincsfan wrote:Claxton was drafted with the 31st pick. He can rebound but he can't shoot. The NBA game based on stats and minutes started to click for him when he was 23.

Neems is 25 and the Brit is 23. I'm pretty sure one of them can give you his stats if they're given a chance.

No need to pick up a 60+mil contract for the next 3 years.

It would be awesome to develop players with only playing time. But at this point we are starting the season with our 4th string center at tip off. We'd better hope at some point we can actually get a center who makes more than $20 million per.


Good luck on that with this ownership over the next 2 years. But such a center should at least deserve it. (And Brad will do something once he can trade Simons.)
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Post#1058 » by cloverleaf » Sun Jul 6, 2025 1:47 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
celtxman wrote:
phincsfan wrote:Claxton was drafted with the 31st pick. He can rebound but he can't shoot. The NBA game based on stats and minutes started to click for him when he was 23.

Neems is 25 and the Brit is 23. I'm pretty sure one of them can give you his stats if they're given a chance.

No need to pick up a 60+mil contract for the next 3 years.

It would be awesome to develop players with only playing time. But at this point we are starting the season with our 4th string center at tip off. We'd better hope at some point we can actually get a center who makes more than $20 million per.


Good luck on that with this ownership over the next 2 years. But such a center should at least deserve it. (And Brad will do something once he can trade Simons.)


What would be fantastic would be Williams blowing everyone away from SL on.
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Post#1059 » by hugepatsfan » Sun Jul 6, 2025 1:49 pm

Green89 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:https://hoopshype.com/rumor/3739847/

According to an NBA source, Lillard would consider signing with the Celtics, and the Celtics are indeed interested. A few years ago, Lillard wasn’t so keen on coming to Boston when the Trail Blazers were considering trading him. This time, however, he’s open to Boston and he has a close friendship with Tatum, as they played together on the 2020 Team USA in Tokyo.


The fact that he hasn't made a decision yet could point to the fact he's waiting for us to make some moves to shed salary, and free up the mid level exception vs. the vet's minimum.


I think any money he gets from Boston comes out of what MIL owes him. So signing for more money does nothing but inconvenience and hard cap his new team. He doesn’t actually make anymore.

Perhaps there are tax advantages though to making passive income in MIL vs earning a salary in Boston though?
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Post#1060 » by phincsfan » Sun Jul 6, 2025 1:51 pm

celtxman wrote:
phincsfan wrote:Claxton was drafted with the 31st pick. He can rebound but he can't shoot. The NBA game based on stats and minutes started to click for him when he was 23.

Neems is 25 and the Brit is 23. I'm pretty sure one of them can give you his stats if they're given a chance.

No need to pick up a 60+mil contract for the next 3 years.

It would be awesome to develop players with only playing time. But at this point we are starting the season with our 4th string center at tip off. We'd better hope at some point we can actually get a center who makes more than $20 million per.


If there's ever a season where you'd be able to develop a center it's this season.

Also, the center's making 20mil+ a season seem to be in their respective teams long term plans.

Most of them were 1st rd picks also.

If they keep Simons, that tells me the scoring will come from outside the C position.

In a perfect world they just need to rebound the ball and defend the paint as a platoon. :D

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