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After rewatching the highlights, I noticed that most of VJ’s misses from three were because he was short. Not worried since it’s just part of adjusting to the NBA 3pt line imo.
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Kobblehead wrote:Johni Broome definitely is not impressive physically, but he absolutely can give us a 20 point, 10 rebound, and 5 assist game when Embiid sits if he starts and plays 30+ minutes. We've never been able to say that for an Embiid backup.
I could see the 10 and 5 part, particularly if our guards are running DHO with him. 20 points feels like it would be a rare occasion since I don't think he's going to be creating a ton of offense for himself or being much of a roll threat.
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The formula for Broome is a Hartenstein style offensive big. Good passer in DHO & short roll situations but needs to develop a floater because he ain’t finishing at the rim with those hops.
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youngcrev wrote:I could see the 10 and 5 part, particularly if our guards are running DHO with him. 20 points feels like it would be a rare occasion since I don't think he's going to be creating a ton of offense for himself or being much of a roll threat.
I see where you're coming from. I just think that Broome is such a per-minute point production beast that he'll find a way throughout the game to accrue buckets.
In his 6 year college career, his per-36 points per game sits at an impressive 21.1.
In this Summer League game, his points per 36 was at 19.5 (pretty much in line with what we should expect).
Enough proof to suggest this guy can flatout score whether or not offense is being run for him and whether or not he's at a physical disadvantage.
Do you feel me on this slightly? Or maybe I'm being too high on him.
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Not going to lie, I was torn between Broome and Raynaud at #35.
Raynaud is tantalizing af when it comes to his shooting ability. Having a true stretch 5 would be amazing.
Ultimately, I fell in love with Broome's production and IQ. I think this guy is going to have a long career in this league as a production beast.
Raynaud is tantalizing af when it comes to his shooting ability. Having a true stretch 5 would be amazing.
Ultimately, I fell in love with Broome's production and IQ. I think this guy is going to have a long career in this league as a production beast.
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Jailblazers7 wrote:The formula for Broome is a Hartenstein style offensive big. Good passer in DHO & short roll situations but needs to develop a floater because he ain’t finishing at the rim with those hops.
Are you with me, 'blaze in that Broome is a clear undersized 5 and not a PF, though?
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Kobblehead wrote:Jailblazers7 wrote:The formula for Broome is a Hartenstein style offensive big. Good passer in DHO & short roll situations but needs to develop a floater because he ain’t finishing at the rim with those hops.
Are you with me, 'blaze in that Broome is a clear undersized 5 and not a PF, though?
Yeah for sure. He doesn’t have the foot speed to be a PF in today’s NBA.
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Just want to re-iterate that I LOVE Gs that rebound. This mf pulled 10 boards in his debut! Like damn, VJ is a real one.
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Jailblazers7 wrote:After rewatching the highlights, I noticed that most of VJ’s misses from three were because he was short. Not worried since it’s just part of adjusting to the NBA 3pt line imo.
It also looked like his legs got a bit tired after the first half. Utah altitude and he was the only one contirbuting offensively.
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Iscull wrote:Jailblazers7 wrote:After rewatching the highlights, I noticed that most of VJ’s misses from three were because he was short. Not worried since it’s just part of adjusting to the NBA 3pt line imo.
It also looked like his legs got a bit tired after the first half. Utah altitude and he was the only one contirbuting offensively.
And he still looked less gassed than everybody else on the floor.
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Iscull wrote:Jailblazers7 wrote:After rewatching the highlights, I noticed that most of VJ’s misses from three were because he was short. Not worried since it’s just part of adjusting to the NBA 3pt line imo.
It also looked like his legs got a bit tired after the first half. Utah altitude and he was the only one contirbuting offensively.
Oh 100%.
Super evident in that one sequence where he had a 2 handed dunk op and he just had no lift left and kind of laid it in.
At the 5:16 mark is what I'm talking about.
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Kobblehead wrote:Not going to lie, I was torn between Broome and Raynaud at #35.
Raynaud is tantalizing af when it comes to his shooting ability. Having a true stretch 5 would be amazing.
Ultimately, I fell in love with Broome's production and IQ. I think this guy is going to have a long career in this league as a production beast.
They already have Broome playing the right way. Four 3PT attempts in 24 mins is a very good rate for a big, equivalent to around 6 per 36 mins or 8 per 100 possessions. And he even turned down one open corner 3 at the end of the game so it should have been 5 attempts in 24 mins.
If he can hit that volume of open 3's at a reasonable rate (say 35%), he's a valuable stretch big.
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Jailblazers7 wrote:After rewatching the highlights, I noticed that most of VJ’s misses from three were because he was short. Not worried since it’s just part of adjusting to the NBA 3pt line imo.
I think his issue is when hes catching and shooting he brings the ball down to waist level then he goes up. The more movement wether with the ball or your body while shooting the more off your shot will be. The rest of shot mechanics look great good balance follow through good arc. He just ti bring the ball uo from his chest not waist
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I think all 4 of his assists (should’ve been five but Broome got his shot tossed) were all to big men. Most to Broome. I’m sure Embiid would like that.
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The fact that Edgecombe was taking and making some big shots down the stretch and into the guts of the game was awesome to see. As in...He's not afraid and he may possibly have "it."
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Kobblehead wrote:youngcrev wrote:I could see the 10 and 5 part, particularly if our guards are running DHO with him. 20 points feels like it would be a rare occasion since I don't think he's going to be creating a ton of offense for himself or being much of a roll threat.
I see where you're coming from. I just think that Broome is such a per-minute point production beast that he'll find a way throughout the game to accrue buckets.
In his 6 year college career, his per-36 points per game sits at an impressive 21.1.
In this Summer League game, his points per 36 was at 19.5 (pretty much in line with what we should expect).
Enough proof to suggest this guy can flatout score whether or not offense is being run for him and whether or not he's at a physical disadvantage.
Do you feel me on this slightly? Or maybe I'm being too high on him.
I guess I could see him being one of those guys that just translates in spite of the limitations. But I kinda expect him to look good against summer league competition. And could see issues scoring against actual NBA frontcourt guys from a size/length/athleticism perspective.
But you've also definitely watched way more of him than I have.
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The biggest issue I foresee next year is the stylistic mismatch between Embiid/PG and our younger athletes. We should be a team that plays fast and pushes pace aggressively to take advantage of our athleticism and guard depth.
But our max players are slow and prefer a more methodical pace. That’s gonna lead to some weirdness as the team tries to toggle back and forth between tempos.
But our max players are slow and prefer a more methodical pace. That’s gonna lead to some weirdness as the team tries to toggle back and forth between tempos.
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Not that he's some star or anything or that he'll ever be one, but I'm still bitter about Filipowski. I wanted him in the draft last year, he got taken like 9 or so picks before. He will be a Sixer one day. Perhaps sometime this year.
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Jailblazers7 wrote:We got a good one y’all. I couldn’t be happier after a summer league debut.
Some other thoughts:
-Bona looked strong as hell out there. He will be an excellent backup big this year.
-Edwards was a little shaky but he suffers most from the lack of a PG on the roster. I need more rebounding from him if he’s ever gonna steal a starting spot.
-Broome flashed his playmaking and IQ but his lack of athleticism was obvious in game 1. He’ll need to recalibrate his finish and play style to succeed in the NBA. For now, he’s someone who can eat up spot minutes because he’s definitely smart enough to play in the league.
Good observations, following up with some of my own:
* Summer League games can be a chore to watch.
* Bona doesn't need to be here and definitely shouldn't be in Vegas. He is a man and the Sixers have at least a solid backup center and potentially more.
* Everything I feared about drafting Broome is present (lack of athleticism and size), but Morey clearly saw his BB IQ and a kid who will do what he needs to carve out a spot in the league. If he can get his FT% to 70% and hit anywhere near 35% from 3, he can be a solid rotation big. He's a guy I believe will be better in a structured system than the mess that SL games tend to be.
* Edwards is another guy who doesn't need to be in Vegas.
* Last and certainly not least - I don't think it's hyperbole to believe that VJ has major stud potential. This is a 19-year old who paced himself, let the game come to him and never looked out of control, and when the opportunities were there showed his explosiveness. His 3-ball will get better as he works with our coaches, and he should be a foul-drawing machine before too long. He has playmaking ability as well, and should see some action at PG in certain lineups. It appears that Morey might have delivered another stud, and he might turn out to be the best of the lottery group.
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