2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I’m not even in this little argument; I would’ve taken Whitmore but I hope those of you talking down on it aren’t hyping up a Kuminga trade in the meantime lol

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Never said Mia wanted him, did I

What I am saying is that for the price that it cost to get him, they should have very well wanted him.

And yes, I'm aware that Whitmore is currently not in peak form lol

Which is a why the cost to get him was so cheap.

I like cheap players with high upsides.

If they pan out, they can potentially become a core player on a value contract or can be flipped for a higher return than the price that was paid to acquire them.

See, this is what I don't get... Why should we be interested beyond due diligence? If his game doesn't fit our system, how valuable is he going to be to us or anyone else? We're doing ourselves, and that young, man a disservice if we acquire him with no way to actually use him! It's dumb! You don't just acquire every young cheap talent you can, you have to have a plan! Whitmore may not have fit ours!

They reportedly are interested in Kuminga and he fits the exact description you laid out only he would cost more to acquire and more salary wise.

For the sake of consistency, I hope you have been posting on here an objection to that potential acquisition.

[Daffy]

Who said anything about player development? Not sure if you are intentionally strawmaning my position or if you just don’t know what you are saying

That aside, Whitmore was traded for 2 2nds. The terrible take here is implying that 2 2nds is a difficult offer to beat.

No, the terrible take here is assuming that he's worth two seconds to the Heat.

Seriously?

What makes you think we even wanted him?

And the development talk is because Whitmore is a development project! He's an actual project! WTF, dude?

If you want to be upset with Miami management, use a legitimate reason - not some barely playable prospect who may or may not pan out...

Never said Mia wanted him, did I

What I am saying is that for the price that it cost to get him, they should have very well wanted him.

And yes, I'm aware that Whitmore is currently not in peak form lol

Which is a why the cost to get him was so cheap.

I like cheap players with high upsides.

If they pan out, they can potentially become a core player on a value contract or can be flipped for a higher return than the price that was paid to acquire them.

I completely agree with you. You should always take swings and young potential talent and if you hit that player becomes a core part of your team or an asset you've built up to move for a great return than you spent. Not hard to grasp.

[Vertical Limit]

We have enough development guys on the roster… too many actually….. between Jovic, Davion, JJJ, Larrson, Ware, Kasparas.. and theyre all expected to make the opening day roster… and get significant minutes each game..

Yall dont even realize how handcuffed spo and the coaching staff is going to feel this upcoming season.. there is some ugly basketball coming soon.

[MartyCONLONNN]

We have enough development guys on the roster… too many actually….. between Jovic, Davion, JJJ, Larrson, Ware, Kasparas.. and theyre all expected to make the opening day roster… and get significant minutes each game..

Yall dont even realize how handcuffed spo and the coaching staff is going to feel this upcoming season.. there is some ugly basketball coming soon.

there is a chance Kas doesnt get much time this season. sure Spo plays rookies now but the are either seasoned or have an elite skillset. Herro could instantly knock down a 3, Ware’s length and shot deterrence are nda ready skills… Kas doesnt have anything that stands out at this level yet.. hes a playmaker but hes also super young. im not saying hes a bust… but he may need more time to impact the game than recent draftees, similar to Jovic

[BBallFreak]

Never said Mia wanted him, did I

What I am saying is that for the price that it cost to get him, they should have very well wanted him.

And yes, I'm aware that Whitmore is currently not in peak form lol

Which is a why the cost to get him was so cheap.

I like cheap players with high upsides.

If they pan out, they can potentially become a core player on a value contract or can be flipped for a higher return than the price that was paid to acquire them.

See, this is what I don't get... Why should we be interested beyond due diligence? If his game doesn't fit our system, how valuable is he going to be to us or anyone else? We're doing ourselves, and that young, man a disservice if we acquire him with no way to actually use him! It's dumb! You don't just acquire every young cheap talent you can, you have to have a plan! Whitmore may not have fit ours!

They reportedly are interested in Kuminga and he fits the exact description you laid out only he would cost more to acquire and more salary wise.

For the sake of consistency, I hope you have been posting on here an objection to that potential acquisition.

First of all, conflicting reports. I've read plenty that say we haven't set up a meeting with him much to his disappointment. Second of all, you want to talk straw man argument! Where did I ever say they shouldn't pursue a prospect? I said they should only pursue prospects they have a plan for.

[Beenie]

See, this is what I don't get... Why should we be interested beyond due diligence? If his game doesn't fit our system, how valuable is he going to be to us or anyone else? We're doing ourselves, and that young, man a disservice if we acquire him with no way to actually use him! It's dumb! You don't just acquire every young cheap talent you can, you have to have a plan! Whitmore may not have fit ours!

They reportedly are interested in Kuminga and he fits the exact description you laid out only he would cost more to acquire and more salary wise.

For the sake of consistency, I hope you have been posting on here an objection to that potential acquisition.

First of all, conflicting reports. I've read plenty that say we haven't set up a meeting with him much to his disappointment. Second of all, you want to talk straw man argument! Where did I ever say they shouldn't pursue a prospect? I said they should only pursue prospects they have a plan for.

So you think the Kuminga interest is all smoke then eh? If so, that would be convenient for you

Hypothetically then, do you think Kuminga's game fits Mia's system?

And how valuable do you think he would be to Mia?

I'm pushing you on this to test your stated position.

[BBallFreak]

No, the terrible take here is assuming that he's worth two seconds to the Heat.

Seriously?

What makes you think we even wanted him?

And the development talk is because Whitmore is a development project! He's an actual project! WTF, dude?

If you want to be upset with Miami management, use a legitimate reason - not some barely playable prospect who may or may not pan out...

Never said Mia wanted him, did I

What I am saying is that for the price that it cost to get him, they should have very well wanted him.

And yes, I'm aware that Whitmore is currently not in peak form lol

Which is a why the cost to get him was so cheap.

I like cheap players with high upsides.

If they pan out, they can potentially become a core player on a value contract or can be flipped for a higher return than the price that was paid to acquire them.

I completely agree with you. You should always take swings and young potential talent and if you hit that player becomes a core part of your team or an asset you've built up to move for a great return than you spent. Not hard to grasp.

We all agree with that. But some of us believe that you don't overpay for a prospect, that you have to have a plan for that prospect, and that prospect has to fit what your doing, systemically. Miami is rife with cheap prospects. We've all seen it. But they're very carefully vetted.

[BBallFreak]

They reportedly are interested in Kuminga and he fits the exact description you laid out only he would cost more to acquire and more salary wise.

For the sake of consistency, I hope you have been posting on here an objection to that potential acquisition.

First of all, conflicting reports. I've read plenty that say we haven't set up a meeting with him much to his disappointment. Second of all, you want to talk straw man argument! Where did I ever say they shouldn't pursue a prospect? I said they should only pursue prospects they have a plan for.

So you think the Kuminga interest is all smoke then eh? If so, that would be convenient for you

Hypothetically then, do you think Kuminga's game fits Mia's system?

And how valuable do you think he would be to Mia?

I'm pushing you on this to test your stated position.

My stated position is that Miami knows what it's looking for better than you. What the hell does that have to do with Kuminga?

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Dru >>> Tatum
Miami >>> racism capital

[MettaWorldPanda]

Boston is going to get Tatum, Lillard, and a top 5 pick next year.

[Beenie]

First of all, conflicting reports. I've read plenty that say we haven't set up a meeting with him much to his disappointment. Second of all, you want to talk straw man argument! Where did I ever say they shouldn't pursue a prospect? I said they should only pursue prospects they have a plan for.

So you think the Kuminga interest is all smoke then eh? If so, that would be convenient for you

Hypothetically then, do you think Kuminga's game fits Mia's system?

And how valuable do you think he would be to Mia?

I'm pushing you on this to test your stated position.

My stated position is that Miami knows what it's looking for better than you. What the hell does that have to do with Kuminga?

Okay, we're done here.

Bad faith engagements are pointless rabbit holes

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Surely Barry wasn’t just regurgitating (did I spell that right?) the Beal stuff in his subliminal posts right? Everyone already knew that but he said he couldn’t report on what it was yet.

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Or I guess maybe it was now that Barry/Gambo have a new found relationship from the KD stuff.

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[Rapaz]

This Barry Jacksonofabitch is at it again

[Voltron914]

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a decision on his buy out or trade? a buy out option? sure come on down but play hard ball since they rejected our KD package

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Beal looks like a good fit on the Warriors with Butler and Steph. Why would he want to come here and share the backcourt with Herro? He just failed miserably with Booker.