2025 Free Agency News/Rumors

[LateNight]

Once again, Houston was clearing more cap. We do not have roster spots, I don't think. If we trade 2 seconds for Whitmore, we also have to waive somebody. Also, Houston reportedly had several offers and sent Cam where he wanted to go.

His career advanced stats are VORP .5, TS 55.5%, BPM .2, DPBM -.7, OPBM .9. With 36% 3 pt shooting as a wing. Sure his per 36 would look high, in his 17 mins/gm, average usage is 26. He's been decidedly average efficiency wise.

So waive them? What's the big deal? Teams waive guys all the time.

Waive Phillips, Terry or Carter, they're in the last year of their deals anyway and provide nothing.

It's ridiculous to hamstring ourselves because we have about 4 or 5 guys who are dead weight on our roster. Why are we prioritizing these guys who have no future with this team?

The Phillips/Terry/Carter trifecta makes it hard for us to trade, I've heard it all. We got a whole line up of guys that shouldn't be on the roster lol.

Philips is still an interesting prospect

[Red Larrivee]

Cam plays no D. Vuc level defender.

I’d still take him over Okoro.

This scenario is a great illustration for what I continually say about AK…

He wants to win not build a winner.

Okoro is the win and Cam is the winner.

Fully agree with those saying this is what we should be doing but AK wants to raise the floor not raise the ceiling.

Even with your explanation, that's a stretch.

Ultimately, Whitmore wanted to go to Washington and did him and his agent a favor. It is better value than the Okoro trade, but it's apples and oranges.

The Rockets worked with Whitmore and his reps at WME Basketball over the past few weeks on a new home. Houston officials had multiple offers on the table for Whitmore but wanted to see him go somewhere that gave him a legitimate chance to thrive in his career.

[_txchilibowl_]

Isn't it pretty clear now that the Bulls couldn't have acquired him? That the Rockets purposefully sent him to Washington? And that if it was an open bidding situation that he likely would have commanded more than the two 2nds he was traded for?

Sheesh

[Repeat 3-peat]

Why would this team add an inefficient scorer who does not like to pass the ball? Whitmore is a waste of assets, Billy would not play him, as he does not fit the style the team wants to play

[Almost Retired]

With Giddey and Coby on the floor as starters Okoro fills a defensive need that Whitmore doesn't. Okoro can be our POA defender 1-3. Matas, and eventually Noa, will make our front line defense long and switchable. Add in a rim protecting Center that can hit 3s and we have a future contender.

[Chi town]

Cam plays no D. Vuc level defender.

I’d still take him over Okoro.

This scenario is a great illustration for what I continually say about AK…

He wants to win not build a winner.

Okoro is the win and Cam is the winner.

Fully agree with those saying this is what we should be doing but AK wants to raise the floor not raise the ceiling.

Even with your explanation, that's a stretch.

Ultimately, Whitmore wanted to go to Washington and did him and his agent a favor. It is better value than the Okoro trade, but it's apples and oranges.

The Rockets worked with Whitmore and his reps at WME Basketball over the past few weeks on a new home. Houston officials had multiple offers on the table for Whitmore but wanted to see him go somewhere that gave him a legitimate chance to thrive in his career.

Is it, though?

Udoka wouldn’t want Zo over 2nds? Or Ayo?

AK could have gotten Cam if he wanted him.

[_txchilibowl_]

Cam plays no D. Vuc level defender.

I’d still take him over Okoro.

This scenario is a great illustration for what I continually say about AK…

He wants to win not build a winner.

Okoro is the win and Cam is the winner.

Fully agree with those saying this is what we should be doing but AK wants to raise the floor not raise the ceiling.

Even with your explanation, that's a stretch.

Ultimately, Whitmore wanted to go to Washington and did him and his agent a favor. It is better value than the Okoro trade, but it's apples and oranges.

The Rockets worked with Whitmore and his reps at WME Basketball over the past few weeks on a new home. Houston officials had multiple offers on the table for Whitmore but wanted to see him go somewhere that gave him a legitimate chance to thrive in his career.

Is it, though?

Udoka wouldn’t want Zo over 2nds? Or Ayo?

AK could have gotten Cam if he wanted him.

Could he, though?

All the available evidence points to the contrary.

I'm open to hearing the evidence you have showing that he could have, provided there is any.

[Chi town]

Even with your explanation, that's a stretch.

Ultimately, Whitmore wanted to go to Washington and did him and his agent a favor. It is better value than the Okoro trade, but it's apples and oranges.

Is it, though?

Udoka wouldn’t want Zo over 2nds? Or Ayo?

AK could have gotten Cam if he wanted him.

Could he, though?

All the available evidence points to the contrary.

I'm open to hearing the evidence you have showing that he could have, provided there is any.

Come on. There is no evidence outside the actual trade. Kinda obvious that an overpay would have put Cam to the highest bidder not his hometown Wiz. Also shows how the league values him.

[DuckIII]

Is it, though?

Udoka wouldn’t want Zo over 2nds? Or Ayo?

AK could have gotten Cam if he wanted him.

Could he, though?

All the available evidence points to the contrary.

I'm open to hearing the evidence you have showing that he could have, provided there is any.

Come on. There is no evidence outside the actual trade. Kinda obvious that an overpay would have put Cam to the highest bidder not his hometown Wiz. Also shows how the league values him.

I think the whole point is that it’s not obvious at all, and somewhat inconsistent with reports, that the Bulls (or any other team) could have simply trumped the offer and got him. That’s not how every transaction works. Same thing happened with OKC working to find a landing spot that Giddey wanted as well.

Which also means the 2 seconds represent an artificial market and do not reflect his actual value.

It’s all moot to me anyway. We can’t make every trade and frankly I prefer the Okoro deal anyway.

[NecessaryEvil]

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[ShouldaPaidBG]

WHY THE *** DIDN'T AKME GET 2 2NDS FOR FREE LIKE BROOKLYN

WTF

[ShouldaPaidBG]

Everything would fall into place nicely with Vuc amd Coby off the team

[BullsSD]

Everything would fall into place nicely with Vuc amd Coby off the team

Totally agree on Vuc. It's true addition by subtraction. It will be a shame if we waste half the year with our offense and moreso defense subject to Vuc-ball.

Coby on the other hand I'm fine with being on the roster for another year. This is the most excited I've been for a Bulls season in a long time.

Why? Because it's judgement day for half of our team. Time to cut the fat and sculpt the future.

[LateNight]

Everything would fall into place nicely with Vuc amd Coby off the team

Totally agree on Vuc. It's true addition by subtraction. It will be a shame if we waste half the year with our offense and moreso defense subject to Vuc-ball.

Coby on the other hand I'm fine with being on the roster for another year. This is the most excited I've been for a Bulls season in a long time.

Why? Because it's judgement day for half of our team. Time to cut the fat and sculpt the future.

We will have a new president before we get P-Will off this team

[NecessaryEvil]

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[Ben]

With Giddey and Coby on the floor as starters Okoro fills a defensive need that Whitmore doesn't. Okoro can be our POA defender 1-3. Matas, and eventually Noa, will make our front line defense long and switchable. Add in a rim protecting Center that can hit 3s and we have a future contender.

I love the Bulls but the idea that the pieces are all there for a future contender except for a rim protecting center who can hit 3s... kind of scratching my head. Unless that center is a superstar, which is one thing that the current team lacks. I'd love us to acquire a superstar. Seems to me that that's the hard part.

You just named a bunch of guys who aspire to be pretty good. Coby could be a *very* good scoring guard. Contenders usually have at least one superstar and multiple supporting stars, or multiple all-stars and a great chemistry...
In other words, fans of every team can do what you're doing: name young players for whom they have hope and call themselves future contenders who lack only one key player.

I've love it to come true, I just don't see the pathway short of one or more players busting out in a way that none of us could project.

[drosestruts]

if your desperation for something new has you upset we didn't acquire Cam Whitmore, please take a deep breath.

These end of the bench guys so many are ready to dump - Dalen Terry, Julian Phillips, etc. are basically just as good as Whitmore.

[DuckIII]

if your desperation for something new has you upset we didn't acquire Cam Whitmore, please take a deep breath.

These end of the bench guys so many are ready to dump - Dalen Terry, Julian Phillips, etc. are basically just as good as Whitmore.

Based on their careers to date, that is provably false.

And there is more to it than desperation for something new. It’s that given our limited assets, these are the types of moves you like to see your team take to hopefully help remedy that issue. Buying low on a young talent caught in a minutes log jam can prove to be an excellent investment.

I for one have no issues with not trading for Whitmore for a variety of reasons. But saying it’s just desperation to see something different oversimplifies the criticism and suggests there is no logic to the preference.

Had the Bulls traded for Whitmore, it would have been a fine and logical move. But so is not trading for him.

[drosestruts]

if your desperation for something new has you upset we didn't acquire Cam Whitmore, please take a deep breath.

These end of the bench guys so many are ready to dump - Dalen Terry, Julian Phillips, etc. are basically just as good as Whitmore.

Based on their careers to date, that is provably false.

And there is more to it than desperation for something new. It’s that given our limited assets, these are the types of moves you like to see your team take to hopefully help remedy that issue. Buying low on a young talent caught in a minutes log jam can prove to be an excellent investment.

I for one have no issues with not trading for Whitmore for a variety of reasons. But saying it’s just desperation to see something different oversimplifies the criticism and suggests there is no logic to the preference.

Had the Bulls traded for Whitmore, it would have been a fine and logical move. But so is not trading for him.

Is it false?

Whitmore has a much higher usage % when he plays which lead to him scoring more, albiet, on worse effeciency than Phillips (both eFG% and TS%)

Whitemore has better VORP and BPM than Phillips

Phillips has the slightly higher Win Share but it's close enough to be considered equal

Phillips is the better offensive rebounder, shot blocker, and scorer from an effeciency standpoint

Whitemore is the better playmaker, can take a more high-volume role, better defensive rating (but I'd chalk some of that up to playing on the better defensive team).

I just don't see much difference between the two

[2weekswithpay]

if your desperation for something new has you upset we didn't acquire Cam Whitmore, please take a deep breath.

These end of the bench guys so many are ready to dump - Dalen Terry, Julian Phillips, etc. are basically just as good as Whitmore.

I'm not even a fan of Whitmore, but he brings more to the table than Terry or Phillips largely because Whitmore is the only one who possesses some scoring capabilities. Whitmore can drive and get to the rim, whereas Terry doesn't have the athleticism, and Phillips can't dribble.

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