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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#261 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jul 6, 2025 6:52 pm

Johnny Fontane wrote:
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Hot take Bam’s friendships holds no water in the current nba


The truth: it does hold water as several of Bams friends have wanted to come play with Bam (Dame, Mitchell, KD, Kyrie, etc.) but he can’t make the front office get a deal done and he can’t help the front office being delusional in Tyler. That is just pure facts


We got outbid in Dame and Mitchell deals. The main point is these players do not give one ounce of care in where they’re playing, whether that be friendships or winning titles. It’s ALL about money for these players and who can blame them when you see the stupid money they’re making

That said I do agree front office should have made deals on high risk players (Harden, Kyrie) when they had the chance to buy low (when butler was still here)


Dame requesting only Miami had nothing to do with money, Mitchell spending the summer here with Bam and playing in our pro am had nothing to do with money. We got outbid for Dame/Mitchell because we weren’t serious about getting them. We were unwilling to include Tyler for Mitchell, we offered more to the Blazers for Jrue than we did for Dame after Dame was sent to Milwaukee. That just shows you we were low balling.

It’s honestly going to be hilarious when Tyler outlasts both Jimmy and Bam in a Heat jersey and we catered more towards a 1 dimensional player who isn’t even a “Heat guy” (especially when compared to those 2) if that’s even a thing any more, over catering to our 2 star players who were leading us to near championships multiple times.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#262 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jul 6, 2025 6:53 pm

HeatIn5 wrote:Who says no to Herro for Collins, Juzang, 2027 utah 1st (top 3 protected), 2029 Utah 1st (top 5 protected)


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Post#263 » by wade44 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 7:05 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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The truth: it does hold water as several of Bams friends have wanted to come play with Bam (Dame, Mitchell, KD, Kyrie, etc.) but he can’t make the front office get a deal done and he can’t help the front office being delusional in Tyler. That is just pure facts


We got outbid in Dame and Mitchell deals. The main point is these players do not give one ounce of care in where they’re playing, whether that be friendships or winning titles. It’s ALL about money for these players and who can blame them when you see the stupid money they’re making

That said I do agree front office should have made deals on high risk players (Harden, Kyrie) when they had the chance to buy low (when butler was still here)


Dame requesting only Miami had nothing to do with money, Mitchell spending the summer here with Bam and playing in our pro am had nothing to do with money. We got outbid for Dame/Mitchell because we weren’t serious about getting them. We were unwilling to include Tyler for Mitchell, we offered more to the Blazers for Jrue than we did for Dame after Dame was sent to Milwaukee. That just shows you we were low balling.

It’s honestly going to be hilarious when Tyler outlasts both Jimmy and Bam in a Heat jersey and we catered more towards a 1 dimensional player who isn’t even a “Heat guy” (especially when compared to those 2) if that’s even a thing any more, over catering to our 2 star players who were leading us to near championships multiple times.


Where’s the proof that we weren’t willing to include Tyler in those deals and who’s to say these other teams would be interested in him?
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Post#264 » by Beenie » Sun Jul 6, 2025 7:08 pm

Rapaz wrote:I have premium filet (Luka, LeBron, Knecht).

Meanwhile, y’all have some chopped liver (Adebayo, Herro) and a balut (Jakučionis). A side of Bradley Veal will not make that roster into a meal.

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#265 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jul 6, 2025 7:28 pm

Johnny Fontane wrote:
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We got outbid in Dame and Mitchell deals. The main point is these players do not give one ounce of care in where they’re playing, whether that be friendships or winning titles. It’s ALL about money for these players and who can blame them when you see the stupid money they’re making

That said I do agree front office should have made deals on high risk players (Harden, Kyrie) when they had the chance to buy low (when butler was still here)


Dame requesting only Miami had nothing to do with money, Mitchell spending the summer here with Bam and playing in our pro am had nothing to do with money. We got outbid for Dame/Mitchell because we weren’t serious about getting them. We were unwilling to include Tyler for Mitchell, we offered more to the Blazers for Jrue than we did for Dame after Dame was sent to Milwaukee. That just shows you we were low balling.

It’s honestly going to be hilarious when Tyler outlasts both Jimmy and Bam in a Heat jersey and we catered more towards a 1 dimensional player who isn’t even a “Heat guy” (especially when compared to those 2) if that’s even a thing any more, over catering to our 2 star players who were leading us to near championships multiple times.


Where’s the proof that we weren’t willing to include Tyler in those deals and who’s to say these other teams would be interested in him?


Barry confirmed both and then went to bat for the front office on both, which is why I’m a little shocked to see him be so critical of the front office now. They must have cut him off on some of his inside sourcing or something recently. Probably after him crashing out last summer or the summer before over something I can’t even remember
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Post#266 » by batterybro42 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 7:31 pm

A lot of people around the Miami Heat discourse need to get a grip
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Post#267 » by insfo » Sun Jul 6, 2025 7:37 pm

batterybro42 wrote:A lot of people around the Miami Heat discourse need to get a grip


But where is the fun in that? :lol:
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Post#268 » by wade44 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 8:01 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Johnny Fontane wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Dame requesting only Miami had nothing to do with money, Mitchell spending the summer here with Bam and playing in our pro am had nothing to do with money. We got outbid for Dame/Mitchell because we weren’t serious about getting them. We were unwilling to include Tyler for Mitchell, we offered more to the Blazers for Jrue than we did for Dame after Dame was sent to Milwaukee. That just shows you we were low balling.

It’s honestly going to be hilarious when Tyler outlasts both Jimmy and Bam in a Heat jersey and we catered more towards a 1 dimensional player who isn’t even a “Heat guy” (especially when compared to those 2) if that’s even a thing any more, over catering to our 2 star players who were leading us to near championships multiple times.


Where’s the proof that we weren’t willing to include Tyler in those deals and who’s to say these other teams would be interested in him?


Barry confirmed both and then went to bat for the front office on both, which is why I’m a little shocked to see him be so critical of the front office now. They must have cut him off on some of his inside sourcing or something recently. Probably after him crashing out last summer or the summer before over something I can’t even remember


Dude. We’d have the worst front office in the league if they turned down Tyler for any of those guys
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Post#269 » by Vertical Limit » Sun Jul 6, 2025 8:11 pm

Johnny Fontane wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Johnny Fontane wrote:
Where’s the proof that we weren’t willing to include Tyler in those deals and who’s to say these other teams would be interested in him?


Barry confirmed both and then went to bat for the front office on both, which is why I’m a little shocked to see him be so critical of the front office now. They must have cut him off on some of his inside sourcing or something recently. Probably after him crashing out last summer or the summer before over something I can’t even remember


Dude. We’d have the worst front office in the league if they turned down Tyler for any of those guys

Check back in april .. this post may hold true.

When im telling you that Spo has his work cut out for him this coming season.. im telling you all brace yourselves. 6 developmental players on the roster that will play significant minutes (jjj, jovic, ware, larrson, davion, kasp), we still have rozier, we still have andersen.. kevin love and highsmith.

Im not even going to blame spoelstra for whatever the result is.

If he even makes it to the play in you should just give him coach of the year. This team is as lottery bound as it gets. The tank is on full gas.

And yes this front office and some fans have a very weird delusional viewpoint of tyler herro… that guy is as mid tier of a player as there is.. and yet he is untouchable
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#270 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jul 6, 2025 8:16 pm

Johnny Fontane wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Johnny Fontane wrote:
Where’s the proof that we weren’t willing to include Tyler in those deals and who’s to say these other teams would be interested in him?


Barry confirmed both and then went to bat for the front office on both, which is why I’m a little shocked to see him be so critical of the front office now. They must have cut him off on some of his inside sourcing or something recently. Probably after him crashing out last summer or the summer before over something I can’t even remember


Dude. We’d have the worst front office in the league if they turned down Tyler for any of those guys


Their delusion in tyler was one of the biggest obstacles in us not being able to win a championship in the Jimmy era lol that’s been one of the biggest gripes against them in recent years. What I’m telling you is reported facts, not just fan fiction.
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Post#271 » by MartyCONLONNN » Sun Jul 6, 2025 8:36 pm

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Boston makes too much sense. He can rehab with Tatum and be ready next year as the starting PG with Holiday now traded away. Celts also lined up for a lottery pick next year as well. I don’t see Dame sitting out his year here.


guys… these people have families and kids. this idea of “rehabbing together” is fking weird unless they are best friends that are on another level of closeness. Are they going to schedule every session together and track progress with gold stars while holding hands? you dont need a BFF to recover through an injury with you and schedule everything with.


its just not at all the reason he would pick the Celtics especially since he would likely sign somewhere with the condition he can be around his family as he rehabs…
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Post#272 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Jul 6, 2025 8:55 pm

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Boston makes too much sense. He can rehab with Tatum and be ready next year as the starting PG with Holiday now traded away. Celts also lined up for a lottery pick next year as well. I don’t see Dame sitting out his year here.


guys… these people have families and kids. this idea of “rehabbing together” is fking weird unless they are best friends that are on another level of closeness. Are they going to schedule every session together and track progress with gold stars while holding hands? you dont need a BFF to recover through an injury with you and schedule everything with.


its just not at all the reason he would pick the Celtics especially since he would likely sign somewhere with the condition he can be around his family as he rehabs…

They are on essentially the same recovery time line. Whether they rehab together or not i agree who gives a chit. What’s clear to me though is Boston regardless of the holding rehab hands makes a ton of sense. A lot more sense than sitting out a year for a directionless Heat squad right now.
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Post#273 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Jul 6, 2025 8:59 pm

We better be shopping for a vet PG because Kaspar is going to need a red shirt year and plenty of Sioux Falls
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Post#274 » by MartyConlonJr » Sun Jul 6, 2025 9:03 pm

It isn't clear to me still if Bradley Beal would be incentivised to get more money or the min in his deal, if whatever we pay him doesnt matter and just reduces Phoenix bill. Like Dames.

Because IF Dame and Beal can both be had fro the minimum, and for multiple years, that is an unbelievable foot up and I think you trade Herro away to give yourself a good lineup, picks and an opportunity for max cap space next season. You could have:

C - Ware
PF - Adebayo / Jovic
SF - ? / Jaquez Jr
SG - Beal / Jakucionis / Larsson
PG - Lillard / Mitchell

As well as whatever draft picks you can get for Wiggins and Herro. That is a spot that Luka or Giannis can slot right into.
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Post#275 » by Vertical Limit » Sun Jul 6, 2025 9:07 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:We better be shopping for a vet PG because Kaspar is going to need a red shirt year and plenty of Sioux Falls

Yes he will. I gotta say, i was never excited about the pick. But he is a rookie, and he deserves time to develop..

If pritchard can be a starting point guard in this league i cant see why kaspar cant.. pritchard has such a low skillset that gets trapped in a corner. streaker shooter..

Kaspar may need 2 seasons before he is nba ready
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Post#276 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Jul 6, 2025 9:10 pm

Vertical Limit wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:We better be shopping for a vet PG because Kaspar is going to need a red shirt year and plenty of Sioux Falls

Yes he will. I gotta say, i was never excited about the pick. But he is a rookie, and he deserves time to develop..

If pritchard can be a starting point guard in this league i cant see why kaspar cant.. pritchard has such a low skillset that gets trapped in a corner. streaker shooter..

Kaspar may need 2 seasons before he is nba ready

This is what happens when you draft kids. Sometimes they don’t come out the gate guns blazing. Then people complain also when the Heat target older seasoned college prospects. They really wanted Walter Clayton Jr
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Post#277 » by wade44 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 9:14 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Vertical Limit wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:We better be shopping for a vet PG because Kaspar is going to need a red shirt year and plenty of Sioux Falls

Yes he will. I gotta say, i was never excited about the pick. But he is a rookie, and he deserves time to develop..

If pritchard can be a starting point guard in this league i cant see why kaspar cant.. pritchard has such a low skillset that gets trapped in a corner. streaker shooter..

Kaspar may need 2 seasons before he is nba ready

This is what happens when you draft kids. Sometimes they don’t come out the gate guns blazing. Then people complain also when the Heat target older seasoned college prospects. They really wanted Walter Clayton Jr


Clayton was the pick all the way. We didn’t even scout Kaspar
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Post#278 » by Vertical Limit » Sun Jul 6, 2025 9:21 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
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MettaWorldPanda wrote:We better be shopping for a vet PG because Kaspar is going to need a red shirt year and plenty of Sioux Falls

Yes he will. I gotta say, i was never excited about the pick. But he is a rookie, and he deserves time to develop..

If pritchard can be a starting point guard in this league i cant see why kaspar cant.. pritchard has such a low skillset that gets trapped in a corner. streaker shooter..

Kaspar may need 2 seasons before he is nba ready

This is what happens when you draft kids. Sometimes they don’t come out the gate guns blazing. Then people complain also when the Heat target older seasoned college prospects. They really wanted Walter Clayton Jr

It just adds to the conversation we sre having on this very page

If they want wcj there were opportunities to move up and guarantee they get their player. But they decided to sit on their hnds, itll drop to them. It is no coincidence that Danny Ainge decided to move up and grab him away from Riley, just another example of them not liking each other

The Heat i know traded glen rice, a second year lottery player and firsts for Zo.. traded odom caron and picks for shaqz

A bunch of picks were traded for Bosh and Lebron to fit them into cap space as sign and trades..

Traded picks for dragic..

They even traded a first round pick for **** Rozier..

That aggressive type of deal making to win does not exist with this franchise. Lost our identity now.

We are now the g league developmental team. We turn players like max, gabe, caleb and duncan into millionaires.

We got six projects now.. all making the roster
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Post#279 » by Vertical Limit » Sun Jul 6, 2025 9:28 pm

4 turnovers for kaspar so far and the first half aint over
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Post#280 » by eddieheatfan » Sun Jul 6, 2025 9:35 pm

i stopped watching now. they are losing 12, its possible that lakers lead will balloon more. our team looks pretty scrubby right now

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