2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread

[fkd215]

This is pure conjecture, but I wonder if Grimes maybe doesn't like the backcourt situation here in Philly. There's a good chance that in a year or two he's only the 4th best guard in the rotation behind Maxey, VJ, and McCain. That could limit his opportunities.

[zaz102]

With Yabu saying the Sixers totally lowballed him and offered him very little money, it makes even less sense that they didn't trade him at the trade deadline. I just don't get Morey sometimes. And yes, I know they couldn't pay him the full TPMLE it would've hard capped them, but the thing is, that only matters if you SIGN your deal. They could have offered him the TPMLE, and verbally agreed to it, and just waited to sign it until after Grimes was signed. Kinda like Maxey did last year. He agreed to the max, but didn't sign it until after the Sixers did everything else. And I think Yabu would've went for that considering he really liked his time here.

It's pretty clear that the Sixers just didn't want him back, which makes not trading him puzzling.

I don't this is a fair comparison. We couldn't really be sure what Grimes is going to get offered so the Sixers might not have had the full TPMLE to offer Yabusele, so I don't think it would be fair to make that offer.

However, I have to believe that Morey knew that they probably weren't going to re-sign Yabusele before the trade deadline. He certainly said as much tight after the season. IMO, if this was the case, he should've traded him at the deadline.

[FireMorey]

I actually think if there is any defense of Morey for not trading him at the deadline, it's possible that he did plan to re-sign Yabu back during the season, but once the offseason get here, he was mandated by ownership not to spend the TPMLE so he could only offer Yabu the minimum. And that could be why they've only signed minimums and two ways so far this summer.

I would not be stunned if that was the case, I have a hunch they aren't going to spend it during the offseason, but we'll find out shortly enough.

[sixers hoops]

With Yabu saying the Sixers totally lowballed him and offered him very little money, it makes even less sense that they didn't trade him at the trade deadline. I just don't get Morey sometimes. And yes, I know they couldn't pay him the full TPMLE it would've hard capped them, but the thing is, that only matters if you SIGN your deal. They could have offered him the TPMLE, and verbally agreed to it, and just waited to sign it until after Grimes was signed. Kinda like Maxey did last year. He agreed to the max, but didn't sign it until after the Sixers did everything else. And I think Yabu would've went for that considering he really liked his time here.

It's pretty clear that the Sixers just didn't want him back, which makes not trading him puzzling.

I don't this is a fair comparison. We couldn't really be sure what Grimes is going to get offered so the Sixers might not have had the full TPMLE to offer Yabusele, so I don't think it would be fair to make that offer.

However, I have to believe that Morey knew that they probably weren't going to re-sign Yabusele before the trade deadline. He certainly said as much tight after the season. IMO, if this was the case, he should've traded him at the deadline.

I think they didn’t want to be hardcapped at the second apron so it was always extremely unlikely that they were going to re-sign Yabu. In addition, Yabu is 29 years old. Embiid was clearly breaking down and PG looked horrible. We are not a win-now club and need assets to get younger. I think trading Yabu should have been an easy decision to flip a good find into a late first or early 2nd.

[Negrodamus]

With Yabu saying the Sixers totally lowballed him and offered him very little money, it makes even less sense that they didn't trade him at the trade deadline. I just don't get Morey sometimes. And yes, I know they couldn't pay him the full TPMLE it would've hard capped them, but the thing is, that only matters if you SIGN your deal. They could have offered him the TPMLE, and verbally agreed to it, and just waited to sign it until after Grimes was signed. Kinda like Maxey did last year. He agreed to the max, but didn't sign it until after the Sixers did everything else. And I think Yabu would've went for that considering he really liked his time here.

It's pretty clear that the Sixers just didn't want him back, which makes not trading him puzzling.

Morey was still interested in the playoff race at the trade deadline.

Then he is an even bigger fool, because they were around 20-30 and Embiid just came off of missing 15 games. I knew at that time that they weren’t re-signing Yabu due to the hard capping issue and needed to trade him.

Big mistake by Morey. And the other report at the time was that GS wanted PG but Morey only wanted to trade him for very good value. If he had a chance to dump PG and passed on it, then he really really lacks foresight.

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[sixers hoops]

Morey was still interested in the playoff race at the trade deadline.

Then he is an even bigger fool, because they were around 20-30 and Embiid just came off of missing 15 games. I knew at that time that they weren’t re-signing Yabu due to the hard capping issue and needed to trade him.

Big mistake by Morey. And the other report at the time was that GS wanted PG but Morey only wanted to trade him for very good value. If he had a chance to dump PG and passed on it, then he really really lacks foresight.

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That’s assuming he actually believed it. It doesn’t sound like a ringing endorsement. He has to pretend he still believes in the playoffs, and that Embiid is going to come back healthy, so they can sell tickets.

However, before the season they signed KJ Martin to have an available salary to trade for a big piece for our title run. Instead, he dumped KJ Martin, a win-now piece in Caleb Martin, and Reggie Jackson at the deadline.

Was that a trade deadline of a GM who really believed we were still in a playoff race?

He knew we were cooked but miscalculated and lost Yabu for nothing.

[youngcrev]

They'll be at 14 players once the Grimes situation resolves itself, right?

I wouldn't be surprised if they go into the season like that with their cap situation as it is. Just kinda makes sense from a flexibility standpoint in terms of making trades and/or use the tMLE if the right opportunity comes.

I guess they could always just cut Ricky since his contract isn't guaranteed if they needed a spot.

[Arsenal]

They'll be at 14 players once the Grimes situation resolves itself, right?

I wouldn't be surprised if they go into the season like that with their cap situation as it is. Just kinda makes sense from a flexibility standpoint in terms of making trades and/or use the tMLE if the right opportunity comes.

I guess they could always just cut Ricky since his contract isn't guaranteed if they needed a spot.

Unfortunately, I expect them to cut Ricky and sign Lowry as the 14th player. Gotta have that veteranosity!

[Mik317]

Powell to the Heat, JCOllins to the Clippers, Love and Slomo to the Jazz.

The Jazz probably cut one or both ,no? Potential guys we look into?

[Arsenal]

Powell to the Heat, JCOllins to the Clippers, Love and Slomo to the Jazz.

The Jazz probably cut one or both ,no? Potential guys we look into?

Slomo for the tMLE would be a great get. Owner is too cheap though so it won't happen. They'll use the excuse of only wanting young guys, however we all know Anderson would be a good trade chip/ballast at $6m/yr.

[Covi_Marsh]

Powell to the Heat, JCOllins to the Clippers, Love and Slomo to the Jazz.

The Jazz probably cut one or both ,no? Potential guys we look into?

I’d pass on them.

[Iverson Armband]

Powell to the Heat, JCOllins to the Clippers, Love and Slomo to the Jazz.

The Jazz probably cut one or both ,no? Potential guys we look into?

If the plan is to get younger and more athletic, I hope not

[Skates]

Grimes and Giddey are the sorts that would get huge contracts based off of one year/part of one year in a salary cap spike season or other offseason where there were more teams with FA space than there were proven free agents. I like Grimes a lot, but none of he or Giddey or Kuminga have established themselves enough that one or more of them isn't a flash in the pan and/or an expensive bet on potential over a history of production. I'm thinking of all of the crazy role players paid as stars contracts back in the year of the big spike where Durant moved to GS. A lot of those contracts became albatrosses quite quickly. Grimes on a 15-17 million per year contract is a reasonable bet and a very nicely sized tradeable contract. More than that is something he probably needs to take the QO, have a great season and stay healthy to go back on the market next year.

[Covi_Marsh]

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Jazz are collecting as many draft picks as possible lol. Just opened a TPE where they can take on another salary dump for draft capital.

I’m sure they are awaiting a solid package for Lauri since he doesn’t fit the new timeline either.

[the_process]

Grimes, Giddey, and Kuminga will be out there for awhile I think.

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Jazz are collecting as many draft picks as possible lol. Just opened a TPE where they can take on another salary dump for draft capital.

I’m sure they are awaiting a solid package for Lauri since he doesn’t fit the new timeline either.

What I see from this is that Utah now has an exception big enough to accommodate Grimes' contract demands. S&T?

[Iscull]

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Jazz are collecting as many draft picks as possible lol. Just opened a TPE where they can take on another salary dump for draft capital.

I’m sure they are awaiting a solid package for Lauri since he doesn’t fit the new timeline either.

What about PG and Grimes (Via S&T) for Markkenen and Sensabaugh.

Utah "buys low" on PG. Grimes replaces LM's usage and provides a better fit with the rest of the team. Their future lineup becomes Walter Clayton, Grimes, Ace, Hendricks, and Kessler/Filipowski.

Philly gets Markkenen and Sensabaugh who are more in line with Maxey's window. Assuming Grimes would've signed $8MM QO, we lower our salary cap by ~$14MM.

Maxey / McCain
VJ / Sensabaugh / Gordon
Oubre / Edwards
Markkenen / Watford / Broome
Embiid / Bona

I like this roster fit way more than with Grimes and PG.

[mg]

Under the new CBA I believe Utah could conceivably outright sign Kuminga, Grimes, or Giddey as a free agent with that trade exception? Not sure which one they would value most. Maybe they just want to use the space to take on contracts/picks while tanking.

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Jazz are collecting as many draft picks as possible lol. Just opened a TPE where they can take on another salary dump for draft capital.

I’m sure they are awaiting a solid package for Lauri since he doesn’t fit the new timeline either.

What about PG and Grimes (Via S&T) for Markkenen and Sensabaugh.

Utah "buys low" on PG. Grimes replaces LM's usage and provides a better fit with the rest of the team. Their future lineup becomes Walter Clayton, Grimes, Ace, Hendricks, and Kessler/Filipowski.

Philly gets Markkenen and Sensabaugh who are more in line with Maxey's window. Assuming Grimes would've signed $8MM QO, we lower our salary cap by ~$14MM.

Maxey / McCain
VJ / Sensabaugh / Gordon
Oubre / Edwards
Markkenen / Watford / Broome
Embiid / Bona

I like this roster fit way more than with Grimes and PG.

Works for me, but what about when Little Ainge wants a 1st (or two)?

[the_process]

Under the new CBA I believe Utah could conceivably outright sign Kuminga, Grimes, or Giddey as a free agent with that trade exception? Not sure which one they would value most. Maybe they just want to use the space to take on contracts/picks while tanking.

My understanding is you can use the MLE like a trade exception, not use trade exceptions to sign players.