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With the 9th Pick, the Raptors select Collin Murray-Boyles!

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Re: With the 9th Pick, the Raptors select Collin Murray-Boyles! 

Post#1681 » by Raptors Realtor » Sun Jul 6, 2025 8:06 pm

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Clay Davis wrote:So I think the "f*ck" was real. I don't think it was a "f*ck, I don't want to play in Canada", I think it was more of a "f*ck, I've got an offensive bag I won't be able to show right off the bat since I'll be behind Scottie, Barrett, and Quickley on a team where the marquee player plays the same position I do". That's why his follow-up interview mentioned how he'd do dirty work that he'll be expected to do. I imagine he'd have been positively ebullient to have been drafted by us last year. He'd have gotten A LOT of burn and reps on the court, and probably have more quarters where he's allowed to be the number one scorer than he'll have this year. On the other hand, he has the play-offs as a light at the end of the tunnell for this year.

I haven't watched the kid much but I believe that this is an accurate read of his rizz. He surely knows that players drafted by the Raptors tend to have a development trajectory that results in them getting paid. The rizz of the Raptorsexual representative rhetorical. Diabolical political, lyrical dog-fighters. Praise Jah, and Supreme Love to the Supreme Mathematics.



Eh, his gf looked depressed as hell

What if she's drafted as a member of the Toronto Tempo next spring? lol


I watched a clip via NBA on YouTube which wasn't in the live broadcast, it took place while CMB was on stage or being interviewed, and his girlfriend looked so happy and was wearing the Raps hat the whole time. She was crying tears of joy while smiling at CMB's mom, she literally looked overwhelmed with happiness.

Not to mention, CMB was interviewed after working out for the Raps before the draft and said he'd "love to play for them"... Everything was misinterpreted and overblown.
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Re: With the 9th Pick, the Raptors select Collin Murray-Boyles! 

Post#1682 » by Duffman100 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 8:12 pm

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Eh, his gf looked depressed as hell

What if she's drafted as a member of the Toronto Tempo next spring? lol


I watched a clip via NBA on YouTube which wasn't in the live broadcast, it took place while CMB was on stage or being interviewed, and his girlfriend looked so happy and was wearing the Raps hat the whole time. She was crying tears of joy while smiling at CMB's mom, she literally looked overwhelmed with happiness.

Not to mention, CMB was interviewed after working out for the Raps before the draft and said he'd "love to play for them"... Everything was misinterpreted and overblown.


Again if you read his lips he said "thank ****". He was just happy to be drafted and not fall down the list
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Post#1683 » by treerollins » Sun Jul 6, 2025 8:35 pm

mtcan wrote:I'm not seeing the Zion comps. Zion's game is 100% dependent on his size and athleticism that allows him to get to the basket like a bowling ball.


u gotta go a little deeper on zion. yeah size and athleticism, but it’s also coming up as a pg and having a tight handle and then the crafty finishing package and touch around the rim, even as an undersized big height wise in nba terms. that’s where i see the comp is working out of the same spots, in bullying his way to the basket with a good handle for his size, and then the good touch and crafty finishing through contact. mix in some passing, high bbiq and more focus on defence. i’m excited to see him as a raptor.
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Post#1684 » by 720 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 9:57 pm

I feel like his game is built well for summer league. His post game is very polished, he is sneaky athletic. If he’s aggressive he should be able to put up big numbers vs the scrubs in Summer league.
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Post#1685 » by HumbleRen » Mon Jul 7, 2025 12:19 am

I get the Zion comps in terms of their body control at such a heavy weight but that’s about where it stops lol.

Zion at 300+ pounds is still more athletic than virtually 99% of the league.
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Post#1686 » by Asif16 » Mon Jul 7, 2025 12:30 am

This isn't Zion. This Julius Randle
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Post#1687 » by djsunyc » Mon Jul 7, 2025 12:32 am

Asif16 wrote:This isn't Zion. This Julius Randle


without the dubious handle!
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Post#1688 » by HumbleRen » Mon Jul 7, 2025 12:33 am

Asif16 wrote:This isn't Zion. This Julius Randle


Feel like that’s an iffy comp too. Young Randle was taller and more explosive. Didn’t play defence either.
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Post#1689 » by StopitLeo » Mon Jul 7, 2025 1:01 am

HumbleRen wrote:
Asif16 wrote:This isn't Zion. This Julius Randle


Feel like that’s an iffy comp too. Young Randle was taller and more explosive. Didn’t play defence either.


CMB = Randle - athleticism + defense
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Post#1690 » by Thaddy » Mon Jul 7, 2025 1:34 am

Handles and the corner 3 are all he needs to have a ROY level year. He's going to be the reason we win the SL championship.
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Post#1691 » by Yallbecrazy » Mon Jul 7, 2025 1:41 am

Thaddy wrote:Handles and the corner 3 are all he needs to have a ROY level year. He's going to be the reason we win the SL championship.


I don't want him in the corner. I want him in the middle of the floor using his playmaking, screening, ball handling. If he develops a corner 3 then he can play minutes at the 3, but he also won't be utilizing his best skills. Between Scottie, Jak, and him that should make up 85%+ of the minutes at the 4/5 on a nightly basis. Mogbo can play some 3 and 4n with Sandro taking up the rest.
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Post#1692 » by RoteSchroder » Mon Jul 7, 2025 1:51 am

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Asif16 wrote:This isn't Zion. This Julius Randle


Feel like that’s an iffy comp too. Young Randle was taller and more explosive. Didn’t play defence either.


CMB = Randle - athleticism + defense


CMB actually has a higher standing reach (half inch) and tested better on all athletic drills except for max vertical (Randle one inch higher). CMB also has the potential to be a more efficient player if comparing college numbers.
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Post#1693 » by tsherkin » Mon Jul 7, 2025 1:55 am

Thaddy wrote:Handles and the corner 3 are all he needs to have a ROY level year. He's going to be the reason we win the SL championship.


Corner 3 probably isn't going to happen, and also isn't necessary for a ROY year.

He'll have to play enough minutes, but if gets out there and is able to score with any sort of competence and mid-teens volume, coupled to rebounding and defending well, he'll be in play unless someone really surprises us out of this class. Well, and then most people expect Flagg to look pretty good.

Competing for ROY is less the point, though. Scottie was ROY, so there's some degree to which your competition's performance matters. And then what your own opportunity looks like on the team. Do we only play him 20 mpg? He won't even come up in the discussion if that's the case, right?
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Post#1694 » by bon » Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:06 am

I don't think the 3 ball will be make or break for CMB. He just needs to be efficient besides from at the rim whether that's with floaters or midrange.

In the halfcourt in college he was 45% but on low volume with the middy. In highschool he flashed a bit more of that off the dribble perimeter game



I think he has untapped potential from midrange which would make him a lot more lethal of scorer even without the 3
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Post#1695 » by Thaddy » Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:50 am

bon wrote:I don't think the 3 ball will be make or break for CMB. He just needs to be efficient besides from at the rim whether that's with floaters or midrange.

In the halfcourt in college he was 45% but on low volume with the middy. In highschool he flashed a bit more of that off the dribble perimeter game



I think he has untapped potential from midrange which would make him a lot more lethal of scorer even without the 3

3pt shooting is non negotiable it's a massive statistical advantage. We have too many non shooters as is, I'd say even having one is too many...

CMB needs a 3pt shot if he wants to be a starter, no question.

I could see him displace Poeltl if he really shows out to be the top of his class.
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Post#1696 » by HangTime » Mon Jul 7, 2025 3:14 am

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bon wrote:I don't think the 3 ball will be make or break for CMB. He just needs to be efficient besides from at the rim whether that's with floaters or midrange.

In the halfcourt in college he was 45% but on low volume with the middy. In highschool he flashed a bit more of that off the dribble perimeter game



I think he has untapped potential from midrange which would make him a lot more lethal of scorer even without the 3

3pt shooting is non negotiable it's a massive statistical advantage. We have too many non shooters as is, I'd say even having one is too many...

CMB needs a 3pt shot if he wants to be a starter, no question.

I could see him displace Poeltl if he really shows out to be the top of his class.


I would want him working on straight away 3s, but I think he and Jakob could work well together in a crowded key, with ball close the rim, they can draw a lot of attention, and they are good passers.

I beleive in Scottie's shooting so the spacing doesn't worry me as much, (especially with the boost on defencive help from Ingram and CMB)

I wouldn't mind the starting lineup being
IQ/Ingram/Scottie/CMB/Jakob


My favourite 2 way lineup would be
Scottie/Ja'kobe/Ingram/CMB/Jakob,

with Ja'kobe playing POA defence.
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Post#1697 » by notagenius » Mon Jul 7, 2025 3:30 am

His game kinda reminds me of Paul milsap... I'm warming up to this pick

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Post#1698 » by bon » Mon Jul 7, 2025 3:33 am

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bon wrote:I don't think the 3 ball will be make or break for CMB. He just needs to be efficient besides from at the rim whether that's with floaters or midrange.

In the halfcourt in college he was 45% but on low volume with the middy. In highschool he flashed a bit more of that off the dribble perimeter game



I think he has untapped potential from midrange which would make him a lot more lethal of scorer even without the 3

3pt shooting is non negotiable it's a massive statistical advantage. We have too many non shooters as is, I'd say even having one is too many...

CMB needs a 3pt shot if he wants to be a starter, no question.

I could see him displace Poeltl if he really shows out to be the top of his class.

Yeah maybe for this specific roster he needs to be a shooter to start but if he's actually elite finishing/driving in his prime then you move other guys to accommodate him if necessary.
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Post#1699 » by StopitLeo » Mon Jul 7, 2025 12:32 pm

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Feel like that’s an iffy comp too. Young Randle was taller and more explosive. Didn’t play defence either.


CMB = Randle - athleticism + defense


CMB actually has a higher standing reach (half inch) and tested better on all athletic drills except for max vertical (Randle one inch higher). CMB also has the potential to be a more efficient player if comparing college numbers.


The combine information is quite interesting. The eye-test makes Randle look more explosive to me but maybe that was more a function of position with CMB playing the 5. I think CMB was already more efficient given their TS% (.624 vs .567).

I’m pretty high on CMB given the role he will come into. There will be very little pressure on his offense—basically set screens and be an efficient finisher like Poeltl. I also think his defensive skills should translate well once he gets up to NBA speed. For his agility he would do well to shed any extra weight, which hopefully will happen with a higher level of training.
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Post#1700 » by HumbleRen » Mon Jul 7, 2025 2:23 pm

StopitLeo wrote:
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CMB = Randle - athleticism + defense


CMB actually has a higher standing reach (half inch) and tested better on all athletic drills except for max vertical (Randle one inch higher). CMB also has the potential to be a more efficient player if comparing college numbers.


The combine information is quite interesting. The eye-test makes Randle look more explosive to me but maybe that was more a function of position with CMB playing the 5. I think CMB was already more efficient given their TS% (.624 vs .567).

I’m pretty high on CMB given the role he will come into. There will be very little pressure on his offense—basically set screens and be an efficient finisher like Poeltl. I also think his defensive skills should translate well once he gets up to NBA speed. For his agility he would do well to shed any extra weight, which hopefully will happen with a higher level of training.


Combine numbers are kinda useless to me to an extent.

Scottie’s was significantly better than Cooper and CMB’s testing numbers yet CMB and Cooper are way more explosive with the ball with a live dribble in their hands. Combine athleticism doesn’t equal in game athleticism.

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