Suns Have Officallly Begun Discussions Of Bradley Beal Buyout

[magee]

Lakers would mean a lineup of Rivers, Beal, Doncic and James, with whoever at Center or their 5th best player. LA is close enough to Phoenix during the season to where he wouldn't have to move his family if they didn't want to go. My guess is they want to be in a warm weather city, with Denver being the best option from an on-court perspective, just to get open looks from Jokic. Even if means his role is a bit smaller since there's no way they are taking Christian Braun out of the starting lineup.

If I'm him, I take Miami. Expanded role, no income tax for individuals. He and his family can stay there if he wants to retire after playing for the Heat. If anything, it makes the move there easier, depending on what his future is after the NBA.

[AleksandarN]

Wasn’t there rumour that Denver was one of the teams that Besl would go to in a trade. I thought I read it somewhere. If so look for Denver as a landing spot

I found it. The possibility is there that Beal could sign with the Nuggets. Who knows maybe wishful thinking

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Doesn't REALLY solve their problems unless he starts driving like it's 2023 again. He's been injured and is small and aging, so his consistency with on-ball sets has been a little up in the air. Scores pretty well after taking a screen, but isn't hot in isolation. Has been declining in his ability to get to the rim, has dropped off REMARKABLY the past two years at getting to the line...

So which Beal are you getting?

2023 Beal would be useful to Denver, even if he would exacerbate their defensive issues. He could move a defense with dribble penetration more so than someone like Murray.

But 2024 and 2025 Beal has been a LOT less interesting. Is that because he was having trouble clicking in Phoenix? Are you gonna get more than 53 games out of him? Will the injuries continue to undercut his efficacy?

If he's signing for the vet min or whatever, rock-on. That's about as dangerous a signing as was Westbrook, so it's probably worthwhile. But there are just as many questions with him as there were with Westie.

As a shooter coming off the bench he still has value. Like I said who know but he would add to the shooting which Denver lacked so badly with Westbrook and the bench

[grindtime22]

This is from 2 weeks ago in a discussion about the return for Durant

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[tsherkin]

As a shooter coming off the bench he still has value. Like I said who know but he would add to the shooting which Denver lacked so badly with Westbrook and the bench

Cheap, yes.

But shooting wasn't really Denver's major issue. It SEEMED like it some in the OKC series, for sure, but their complete incompetence on-ball was much more of an issue, because they weren't able to create as many clean looks and they were basically useless at applying rim pressure in that series.

So like yeah, sure... you can add another 1/2 who can shoot... but if Braun doesn't have an uncharacteristic, historically incompetent series from 3, we don't have this conversation. He's actually a good shooter. Murray sucked ass too. And then yeah sure, Westie also sucked. Part of the problem was moving Braun into the starting lineup, and then yeah, Peyton Watson sucked ass and MPJ was injured.

So... Braun plays normal-ish, MPJ is healthy... and now they've re-added Bruce Brown? Different tone entirely already.

They HAVE shooters. What they didn't have was health or slashing.

[AleksandarN]

As a shooter coming off the bench he still has value. Like I said who know but he would add to the shooting which Denver lacked so badly with Westbrook and the bench

Cheap, yes.

But shooting wasn't really Denver's major issue. It SEEMED like it some in the OKC series, for sure, but their complete incompetence on-ball was much more of an issue, because they weren't able to create as many clean looks and they were basically useless at applying rim pressure in that series.

So like yeah, sure... you can add another 1/2 who can shoot... but if Braun doesn't have an uncharacteristic, historically incompetent series from 3, we don't have this conversation. He's actually a good shooter. Murray sucked ass too. And then yeah sure, Westie also sucked. Part of the problem was moving Braun into the starting lineup, and then yeah, Peyton Watson sucked ass and MPJ was injured.

So... Braun plays normal-ish, MPJ is healthy... and now they've re-added Bruce Brown? Different tone entirely already.

They HAVE shooters. What they didn't have was health or slashing.

Cam and BB are slashers though. Both work off the ball. Also DHO with Beal and Jokic would be good. But with Cam and BB you should see more movement and with better shooting it will open up even more. This Nuggets team will be vastly more improved if we can add Beal

[tsherkin]

Cam and BB are slashers though. Both work off the ball. Also DHO with Beal and Jokic would be good. But with Cam and BB you should see more movement and with better shooting it will open up even more. This Nuggets team will be vastly more improved if we can add Beal

They are okay slashers who aren't stunning playmakers. They will help, but they need someone who does that well as their main focus. Cam is there to be crappier MPJ who is less healthy but a lot cheaper.

If they get 2023 Bruce Brown, that'd be pretty nice... but that's still an 11, 12 ppg player who offered only so much playmaking.

Beal... again. It SUPER depends on which Beal you get. 2025 Beal won't be that much of a difference-maker. 2023 Beal, especially cheap, would be a pretty big deal, though.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

I'm guessing Miami, would've said Milwaukee if they had their MLE

[mademan]

I like Dallas a lot as a fit too, though im not sure if they can afford anything more than the minimum. All he has to do is beat out Dlo to be the primary offensive guard on a big, defensive team with great rim runners.

[mademan]

Cam and BB are slashers though. Both work off the ball. Also DHO with Beal and Jokic would be good. But with Cam and BB you should see more movement and with better shooting it will open up even more. This Nuggets team will be vastly more improved if we can add Beal

They are okay slashers who aren't stunning playmakers. They will help, but they need someone who does that well as their main focus. Cam is there to be crappier MPJ who is less healthy but a lot cheaper.

If they get 2023 Bruce Brown, that'd be pretty nice... but that's still an 11, 12 ppg player who offered only so much playmaking.

Beal... again. It SUPER depends on which Beal you get. 2025 Beal won't be that much of a difference-maker. 2023 Beal, especially cheap, would be a pretty big deal, though.

Ya the question is gonna be if that offensive self creation he had in 2023 is gone, or if he was just relegated to be a spot up shooter because of lineup issues these past 2 years and he's still got that juice.

[tsherkin]

Ya the question is gonna be if that offensive self creation he had in 2023 is gone, or if he was just relegated to be a spot up shooter because of lineup issues these past 2 years and he's still got that juice.

As ONLY a spot-up shooter, his relevance will be fairly limited. But if he can get out there and run PnR, isolate a bit and drive... that's different. In 2023, he was driving like 15 times a game, which is significant. In 2025, it was like half that. So if they sign him, that will be a BIG marker. In Phoenix, he fell off a cliff at drawing fouls, and was ass at getting to the rim. And that, Denver needs a lot more than spot-up shooting.

They've not really lacked for spot-up shooting, health not withstanding. That's literally all they've had, apart from Jokic.

[AleksandarN]

Cam and BB are slashers though. Both work off the ball. Also DHO with Beal and Jokic would be good. But with Cam and BB you should see more movement and with better shooting it will open up even more. This Nuggets team will be vastly more improved if we can add Beal

They are okay slashers who aren't stunning playmakers. They will help, but they need someone who does that well as their main focus. Cam is there to be crappier MPJ who is less healthy but a lot cheaper.

If they get 2023 Bruce Brown, that'd be pretty nice... but that's still an 11, 12 ppg player who offered only so much playmaking.

Beal... again. It SUPER depends on which Beal you get. 2025 Beal won't be that much of a difference-maker. 2023 Beal, especially cheap, would be a pretty big deal, though.

I don’t view Cam as a crappier MPJ. For one he is a more dynamic scorer than MPJ. He reads the game a lot better than MPJ. He is a better ball handler and more fluid than MPJ with or without the ball. You are definitely under selling Cam if you think he is just a crappier and cheaper version of MPJ.

[tsherkin]

I don’t view Cam as a crappier MPJ. For one he is a more dynamic scorer than MPJ. He reads the game a lot better than MPJ. He is a better ball handler and more fluid than MPJ with or without the ball. You are definitely under selling Cam if you think he is just a crappier and cheaper version of MPJ.

He's slightly more dynamic on lower volume, and again, with less health/availability, so it's a little fuzzy whether or not that actually bears out over a whole regular season.

We'll have to see what he looks like and if he can actually replicate what he did for less than 60 games this year. I'm dubious on his value relative to MPJ, to be honest.

[FarBeyondDriven]

I'm not sure I understand the need to do this after the draft they just had and trading for Williams. Beal can help them win games this season. Just keep him and see if there's an injury that makes teams desperate or if him not getting minutes makes him more amenable to a trade. Buying him out only helps Beal

[AleksandarN]

I don’t view Cam as a crappier MPJ. For one he is a more dynamic scorer than MPJ. He reads the game a lot better than MPJ. He is a better ball handler and more fluid than MPJ with or without the ball. You are definitely under selling Cam if you think he is just a crappier and cheaper version of MPJ.

He's slightly more dynamic on lower volume, and again, with less health/availability, so it's a little fuzzy whether or not that actually bears out over a whole regular season.

We'll have to see what he looks like and if he can actually replicate what he did for less than 60 games this year. I'm dubious on his value relative to MPJ, to be honest.

Lower volume he shot? more threes than MPJ went to the line more (actually double the amount of times). So he more effective and More efficient at it than MPJ. All this without having the playmaker the caliber of jokic on his team. Like I said with him being a smarter player than MPJ will make it a better fit for Denver. Health wise we will see. But I view Cam as a better fit and a better player on Denver

[JujitsuFlip]

I'm not sure I understand the need to do this after the draft they just had and trading for Williams. Beal can help them win games this season. Just keep him and see if there's an injury that makes teams desperate or if him not getting minutes makes him more amenable to a trade. Buying him out only helps Beal

They just want the guy out of their locker room and he refuses to waive his NTC.

Which is dumb because he waived it to get there, why would it be reinstated after it was waived but i digress, a conversation for a different time.

[SomeBunghole]

Can someone explain to me how it's even theoretically possible for the Lakers to make moves right now? They owe 110 million to just two players next year and Beal stands to make over 50 million as well. How are they not over every apron known to man?

[zimpy27]

Can someone explain to me how it's even theoretically possible for the Lakers to make moves right now? They owe 110 million to just two players next year and Beal stands to make over 50 million as well. How are they not over every apron known to man?

Beal would get a buyout for the Suns. The Suns pay Beal $19m a season for 5 seasons.

Beal could sign with lakers for $5m a season for 2 seasons.

[SomeBunghole]

Beal would get a buyout for the Suns. The Suns pay Beal $19m a season for 5 seasons.

Beal could sign with lakers for $5m a season for 2 seasons.

But the article above isn't talking about a buyout. It's talking about Beal waiving his no-trade-clause.

[2LeTTeRS]

Beal would get a buyout for the Suns. The Suns pay Beal $19m a season for 5 seasons.

Beal could sign with lakers for $5m a season for 2 seasons.

But the article above isn't talking about a buyout. It's talking about Beal waiving his no-trade-clause.

Yeah that was posted on January 6th when the Suns were canvassing the market for a trade and trying to leak reports to convince Beal to waive the NTC. Things have obvisously changed now.

[Bird4Three]

If he’s gonna suck, I hope he goes to LA.

If he’s gonna be good again, I hope he goes to Denver.

If he’s irrelevant, head to Miami.