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Re: Official 2025 Orlando Magic Summer League Discussion Thread 

Post#141 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 1:57 pm

basketballRob wrote:Edgecombe looked as fast as Westbrook but actually has skill. Philadelphia may have another star. Maxey, McCain, Edgecombe, and Grimes are going to be tough.

Clayton looked good. He was backing up Collier, so he didn't get a lot of opportunities.



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When you think about it Philly has quietly rebuilt their future core for life after Embiid/George.

Maxey/McCain/Grimes/Edgecombe is a better young core than a lot of teams that have been actively tanking/rebuilding for years. I would choose that group easily over CHA/UTH/POR/WAS/BRK (from the top of my head).
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Re: Official 2025 Orlando Magic Summer League Thread - Team Announced 

Post#142 » by Idiosyncratic » Sun Jul 6, 2025 2:08 pm

Edgecombe did it against basically the Jazz's real NBA team too :lol: Was a fun game, especially compared to the other ones.

His handle is a little shaky, and shot looks like it will be inconsistent for a bit, but clearly just moves differently than anyone else on the floor. If he was 2 inches taller he probably would have been another #1 pick type prospect. As it stands needs to get that shot a little more consistent, but still a very very high level prospect.

Bona looked pretty excellent for the Sixers as well and he was actually very good as a rookie last year. Broome did Broome things, but struggled a bit with ball security.

I was coming around a bit on Ace Bailey closer to the draft, but at some point he does actually have to make shots. Thought Clayton played well in his role, not sure he is going to be the best at creating space for himself in the NBA, but shot is going to be accurate, release is really quick and I think he has more PG skills than people were giving him credit for. He really would pair well with a big that can set good screens for him and even pass a bit so he can work off ball to free himself. Filipowski is just going to be really solid.
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Re: Official 2025 Orlando Magic Summer League Thread - Team Announced 

Post#143 » by Optimus_Steel » Sun Jul 6, 2025 3:38 pm

This is way too early but feels like knuckle heads like Bailey have a high rate of bustabillity…
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Re: Official 2025 Orlando Magic Summer League Thread - Team Announced 

Post#144 » by drsd » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:25 pm

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drsd wrote:Just realised that Wendell Moore Jr. is on the Summer team. He has to be close to being a deep-bench NBA player. Right?

Could he be Mr #14. He is certianly an upgrade over Houstan, who's slot this is.


I’m not sure why you keep calling it Mr. 14 when they already have 14, it would be Mr. 15, no?


I can't count and you are correct!

Orlando has its min-required team and is under the 1st apron!!!!

1 Franz Wagner 38,661,700
2 Desmond Bane 36,725,670
3 Jalen Suggs 35,000,000
4 Paolo Banchero 15,334,769
5 Jonathan Isaac 15,000,000
6 Wendell Carter 10,850,000
7 Goga Bitadze 8,333,333
8 Anthony Black 7,970,028
9 Tyus Jones 7,000,000
10 Jett Howard 5,529,506
11 Moritz Wagner 5,000,000
12 Tristan da Silva 3,809,520
13 Jase Richardson 2,983,320
14 Noah Penda 1,272,869

Total: 193,470,715

Clearly the Magic is best served by finalising the two-way players and saving the 2M spare change for a late season FA.
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Re: Official 2025 Orlando Magic Summer League Thread - Team Announced 

Post#145 » by RookieStar » Sun Jul 6, 2025 9:02 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Edgecombe looked as fast as Westbrook but actually has skill. Philadelphia may have another star. Maxey, McCain, Edgecombe, and Grimes are going to be tough.

Clayton looked good. He was backing up Collier, so he didn't get a lot of opportunities.



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When you think about it Philly has quietly rebuilt their future core for life after Embiid/George.

Maxey/McCain/Grimes/Edgecombe is a better young core than a lot of teams that have been actively tanking/rebuilding for years. I would choose that group easily over CHA/UTH/POR/WAS/BRK (from the top of my head).


Yesh but they are all kinda below 6'4 players... they can't play together unless there are special circumstances...
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Re: Official 2025 Orlando Magic Summer League Thread - Team Announced 

Post#146 » by Knightro » Sun Jul 6, 2025 9:42 pm

Only 1.5 games so far, but Jakucionis has looked rough so far for the Summer League Heat.
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Re: Official 2025 Orlando Magic Summer League Thread - Team Announced 

Post#147 » by basketballRob » Sun Jul 6, 2025 9:49 pm

Knightro wrote:Only 1.5 games so far, but Jakucionis has looked rough so far for the Summer League Heat.
I painfully watched the game yesterday, and he doesn't look strong enough for the NBA.

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Re: Official 2025 Orlando Magic Summer League Discussion Thread 

Post#148 » by Knightro » Sun Jul 6, 2025 10:10 pm

Any guesses on the Magic's summer league lineup?

Richardson, Da Silva and Penda presumably are locks. But who gets the other two spots?

There's a chance that the Magic's two-way players are used even more this year than last with only 14 guys on the regular roster instead of 15 and Moe potentially rehabbing to start the year. A lot of opportunities for the guys on the roster to impress and potentially earn a spot.
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Post#149 » by Idiosyncratic » Mon Jul 7, 2025 12:18 am

Knightro wrote:Any guesses on the Magic's summer league lineup?

Richardson, Da Silva and Penda presumably are locks. But who gets the other two spots?

There's a chance that the Magic's two-way players are used even more this year than last with only 14 guys on the regular roster instead of 15 and Moe potentially rehabbing to start the year. A lot of opportunities for the guys on the roster to impress and potentially earn a spot.


Maybe

Jase
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Penda
Kelley

I guess Moore could start at the 2, but seems like they could give the nod to their 2-way guy from last year. Kelley got a cup of coffee with the Pelicans and Mavericks last year, doesn't seem very good though.

Roster outside of our big 3 isn't very interesting to me. Nate Santos seems unathletic and slow on defense. Bingham is interesting if he is able to stretch the floor.

Moore is maybe the most interesting, just hasn't played much since college, not even much in the G League. Which is a shame for him because he looked like he didn't know how to play basketball in college, he really needed minutes. But he is long and has flashed passing, defense and rebounding at times.

Hope somebody surprises, but also hope they are looking around the league for 2-way options :D
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Re: Official 2025 Orlando Magic Summer League Discussion Thread 

Post#150 » by Audi » Mon Jul 7, 2025 12:30 am

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Edgecombe looked as fast as Westbrook but actually has skill. Philadelphia may have another star. Maxey, McCain, Edgecombe, and Grimes are going to be tough.

Clayton looked good. He was backing up Collier, so he didn't get a lot of opportunities.



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When you think about it Philly has quietly rebuilt their future core for life after Embiid/George.

Maxey/McCain/Grimes/Edgecombe is a better young core than a lot of teams that have been actively tanking/rebuilding for years. I would choose that group easily over CHA/UTH/POR/WAS/BRK (from the top of my head).


Young core measuring at 6’2/6’3/6’4/6’5 is Weltman’s antithesis.
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Re: Official 2025 Orlando Magic Summer League Thread - Team Announced 

Post#151 » by RookieStar » Mon Jul 7, 2025 1:01 am

Knightro wrote:Only 1.5 games so far, but Jakucionis has looked rough so far for the Summer League Heat.


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Re: Official 2025 Orlando Magic Summer League Thread - Team Announced 

Post#152 » by Idiosyncratic » Mon Jul 7, 2025 1:29 am

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Knightro wrote:Only 1.5 games so far, but Jakucionis has looked rough so far for the Summer League Heat.


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LOL :lol:

I wasn't super high on him, but I do think it made a lot of sense to want him here. Potential creator in a draft that didn't have a ton, for a team that lacked one. Still really early.

He dropped because he struggles to create space and turns the ball over and so far that is what is hurting him, so not a great sign. But I mean he may look way better in a structured environment and it also might just take time. Some good players have had awful summer leagues. It can matter and sometimes it doesn't.
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Re: Official 2025 Orlando Magic Summer League Discussion Thread 

Post#153 » by tiderulz » Mon Jul 7, 2025 1:41 am

Audi wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Edgecombe looked as fast as Westbrook but actually has skill. Philadelphia may have another star. Maxey, McCain, Edgecombe, and Grimes are going to be tough.

Clayton looked good. He was backing up Collier, so he didn't get a lot of opportunities.



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When you think about it Philly has quietly rebuilt their future core for life after Embiid/George.

Maxey/McCain/Grimes/Edgecombe is a better young core than a lot of teams that have been actively tanking/rebuilding for years. I would choose that group easily over CHA/UTH/POR/WAS/BRK (from the top of my head).


Young core measuring at 6’2/6’3/6’4/6’5 is Weltman’s antithesis.

and they all play guard.
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Re: Official 2025 Orlando Magic Summer League Discussion Thread 

Post#154 » by RookieStar » Mon Jul 7, 2025 1:53 am

tiderulz wrote:
Audi wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
When you think about it Philly has quietly rebuilt their future core for life after Embiid/George.

Maxey/McCain/Grimes/Edgecombe is a better young core than a lot of teams that have been actively tanking/rebuilding for years. I would choose that group easily over CHA/UTH/POR/WAS/BRK (from the top of my head).


Young core measuring at 6’2/6’3/6’4/6’5 is Weltman’s antithesis.

and they all play guard.


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Re: Official 2025 Orlando Magic Summer League Thread - Team Announced 

Post#155 » by RookieStar » Mon Jul 7, 2025 1:54 am

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RookieStar wrote:
Knightro wrote:Only 1.5 games so far, but Jakucionis has looked rough so far for the Summer League Heat.


*quietly scrubbing my pro-jak trade up for him posts*


LOL :lol:

I wasn't super high on him, but I do think it made a lot of sense to want him here. Potential creator in a draft that didn't have a ton, for a team that lacked one. Still really early.

He dropped because he struggles to create space and turns the ball over and so far that is what is hurting him, so not a great sign. But I mean he may look way better in a structured environment and it also might just take time. Some good players have had awful summer leagues. It can matter and sometimes it doesn't.


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Re: Official 2025 Orlando Magic Summer League Discussion Thread 

Post#156 » by Black and Blue » Mon Jul 7, 2025 3:23 am

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Edgecombe looked as fast as Westbrook but actually has skill. Philadelphia may have another star. Maxey, McCain, Edgecombe, and Grimes are going to be tough.

Clayton looked good. He was backing up Collier, so he didn't get a lot of opportunities.



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When you think about it Philly has quietly rebuilt their future core for life after Embiid/George.

Maxey/McCain/Grimes/Edgecombe is a better young core than a lot of teams that have been actively tanking/rebuilding for years. I would choose that group easily over CHA/UTH/POR/WAS/BRK (from the top of my head).


I’m obviously biased as they are my second favorite team but Portland is going to make a leap this year. They were great the second half of the season when they simply handed the keys to their young core of Scoot Henderson/Camara/Sharpe/Avidja/Clingan and now will have Jrue in and Grant back in the mix. Are they going far in the playoffs? No. But they are built VERY similarly to the
Magic squad that surprised people and made a leap in the standings two years ago. Basically they are copying the Magic blueprint and building a defense first mentality and handing the keys to Avidja (their Franz), Sharpe (their Paolo…they hope), and Camara (their Suggs). If you all needed an “Orlando Magic West” team, they fit the bill.

All to say that is the one group I would take over the Sixers young core from that group you listed. It’s going to be a fun team. Not to mention the absolutely bonkers boom or bust swing on Yang, who they want playing NBA minutes this year.
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Re: Official 2025 Orlando Magic Summer League Discussion Thread 

Post#157 » by VFX » Mon Jul 7, 2025 4:24 am

In other news Edgecomb looks good for Philly despite being just summer league.

Was super high on him pre-draft
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Re: Official 2025 Orlando Magic Summer League Discussion Thread 

Post#158 » by JoshuaPotter » Mon Jul 7, 2025 12:48 pm

Where do I find summer league stuff? Help a brother out?
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Re: Official 2025 Orlando Magic Summer League Discussion Thread 

Post#159 » by basketballRob » Mon Jul 7, 2025 1:02 pm

RookieStar wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
Audi wrote:
Young core measuring at 6’2/6’3/6’4/6’5 is Weltman’s antithesis.

and they all play guard.


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Re: Official 2025 Orlando Magic Summer League Thread - Team Announced 

Post#160 » by RichCollab » Mon Jul 7, 2025 1:26 pm

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Knightro wrote:Only 1.5 games so far, but Jakucionis has looked rough so far for the Summer League Heat.


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