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HumbleRen wrote:DG88 wrote:?t=SbZKJW6KmaN0dg02ohEOGQ&s=19
Poor Norm, can’t seem to find a home even when playing very efficient basketball.
The market for score first no defence SG’s is brutal.
Tor_Raps wrote:HumbleRen wrote:DG88 wrote:?t=SbZKJW6KmaN0dg02ohEOGQ&s=19
Poor Norm, can’t seem to find a home even when playing very efficient basketball.
The market for score first no defence SG’s is brutal.
Wow... surprised Clippers traded Norm after he was getting a lot of allstar love. Collins has been pretty damn good when Utah hasn't been holding him back. Think Clippers realized they needed to be bigger in the playoffs so Kawhi didnt have to play PF.
HumbleRen wrote:Tor_Raps wrote:HumbleRen wrote:
Poor Norm, can’t seem to find a home even when playing very efficient basketball.
The market for score first no defence SG’s is brutal.
Wow... surprised Clippers traded Norm after he was getting a lot of allstar love. Collins has been pretty damn good when Utah hasn't been holding him back. Think Clippers realized they needed to be bigger in the playoffs so Kawhi didnt have to play PF.
More so probably didn’t want to pay him. You don’t want to pay shooting guards who don’t play defence 30M+.
He’s on an expiring contract.
HumbleRen wrote:Tor_Raps wrote:HumbleRen wrote:
Poor Norm, can’t seem to find a home even when playing very efficient basketball.
The market for score first no defence SG’s is brutal.
Wow... surprised Clippers traded Norm after he was getting a lot of allstar love. Collins has been pretty damn good when Utah hasn't been holding him back. Think Clippers realized they needed to be bigger in the playoffs so Kawhi didnt have to play PF.
More so probably didn’t want to pay him. You don’t want to pay shooting guards who don’t play defence 30M+.
He’s on an expiring contract.
Tor_Raps wrote:Duffman100 wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:Why would we waive Battle exactly?
The bigger and two years old is what he mentioned.
I like Battle though and proven to be pretty decent in spot minutes. I'd waive Castleton maybe for him, feels like we can find a Castleton player anytime we want.
Battle is one of my favorite raptors players right now. You will have to fight me if you want to waive him lol.
DreamTeam09 wrote:HumbleRen wrote:Tor_Raps wrote:
Wow... surprised Clippers traded Norm after he was getting a lot of allstar love. Collins has been pretty damn good when Utah hasn't been holding him back. Think Clippers realized they needed to be bigger in the playoffs so Kawhi didnt have to play PF.
More so probably didn’t want to pay him. You don’t want to pay shooting guards who don’t play defence 30M+.
He’s on an expiring contract.
They have tried to trade Norm every summer since he got there
Tor_Raps wrote:DreamTeam09 wrote:HumbleRen wrote:
More so probably didn’t want to pay him. You don’t want to pay shooting guards who don’t play defence 30M+.
He’s on an expiring contract.
They have tried to trade Norm every summer since he got there
I think this means Beal is 100% going to the Clippers. If that happens then this move makes 100% and the Clippers got a lot better overall.
Miami just got a free 20PPG scorer on a expiring. 0 chance we can get anything for RJ if thats the value on the market lol.
Duffman100 wrote:OAKLEY_2 wrote:Here is my Bobby post Masai trade (with the blessing of the Board).
RJ Barrett, Ochai Agbaji and two firsts
for
Demar Derozan, Keegan Murray and two seconds
Scottie-Jak-Ingram
IQ-Murray
6th man Demar Derozan
7. Jakobe. 8. CMB 9. Shead 10. Mogbo 11. Mamu 12. Alijah Martin 13. Battle 14. Lawson 15. Temple
Ewwwww
YogurtProducer wrote:HumbleRen wrote:I don’t care if you’re attached to mediocre players. Pointing out that RJ Barrett has been net negative for 90% of his career isn’t hating, that’s just objectively true. Pointing out that he gets paid like a high impact starter while doing the opposite of that is an objective truth. Pointing out that he does not have positive value as a trade chip around the league is an objective truth.
I don’t care even care for Whitmore like that on this team. I just think it was a good low risk high reward move for the Wizards to get him. It’s not that big of a deal.
Being the 66th highest contract in the league, sandwiched in between Andrew Wiggins, Devin Vassell, and Afernee Simons, is hardly "Paid like a high impact starter".
Barrett is about to go into a year where he is back in the role he thrived in when he first got here. You know, when he put up 22/6/4 on 62TS%. But hey - we also could have Whitmore throwing up 18 inefficient shots a night with 4 passes. That might be better.
FWIW - I am fine with trading Barrett. People disagreeing with you are not "attached to mediocre players". Attack the argument, not the person.
DG88 wrote:?t=mQI0MvHxfsA1Q_Ag8HLY3Q&s=19
OAKLEY_2 wrote:Duffman100 wrote:OAKLEY_2 wrote:Here is my Bobby post Masai trade (with the blessing of the Board).
RJ Barrett, Ochai Agbaji and two firsts
for
Demar Derozan, Keegan Murray and two seconds
Scottie-Jak-Ingram
IQ-Murray
6th man Demar Derozan
7. Jakobe. 8. CMB 9. Shead 10. Mogbo 11. Mamu 12. Alijah Martin 13. Battle 14. Lawson 15. Temple
Ewwwww
So... if we drop one of the firsts and throw in the Demar daughter screams at the free throw line do we have a deal?
People: "“The Warriors are said to have a lot of interest in 2022 fourth-overall pick Keegan Murray and would open negotiations with the Kings should the 24-year-old be on the table, sources said,” Siegel reported.
So why flame Murray and Derozan for expensive RJ and no upside Ochai when just so happens GSW covets him for Kuminga. Anybody? Or are we just hating. Maybe I whiffed on the two firsts. The biggest problem in this league is the agents all want their 25-30m for players not worth half that. I watched a league insider flame our contract for iQ but Barrett or IQ is really an addition by subtraction under tax proposition. Doing nothing may be trying to save face for doing IQ's deal.
StopitLeo wrote:DG88 wrote:?t=mQI0MvHxfsA1Q_Ag8HLY3Q&s=19
These NBA contracts are insane. Good for the NBAPA.
Booker is good but he isn't good enough to warrant spending that much of the cap on him.
djsunyc wrote:StopitLeo wrote:DG88 wrote:?t=mQI0MvHxfsA1Q_Ag8HLY3Q&s=19
These NBA contracts are insane. Good for the NBAPA.
Booker is good but he isn't good enough to warrant spending that much of the cap on him.
only the top players are benefitting. middle tier guys are getting screwed.
dhackett1565 wrote:djsunyc wrote:StopitLeo wrote:
These NBA contracts are insane. Good for the NBAPA.
Booker is good but he isn't good enough to warrant spending that much of the cap on him.
only the top players are benefitting. middle tier guys are getting screwed.
As much as my socialist heart rebels against this... this is more in line with the real drivers of success in the NBA. It's a star-driven league. The money SHOULD go to the top, and if we didn't have artificial max salaries we'd see way more of it go there.
The nice thing about the cap inflation is that fringe guys can now make life-changing money even if they only last a year or two in the league. And the middle class, as much as they are being driven towards the MLE - that MLE is now worth pretty much what the Heatles were making as superstar players, so overall there's a lot of money there for the bulk of the league even with superstar salaries driving towards their worth.
