With the 9th Pick, the Raptors select Collin Murray-Boyles!

[Spates]

CMB actually has a higher standing reach (half inch) and tested better on all athletic drills except for max vertical (Randle one inch higher). CMB also has the potential to be a more efficient player if comparing college numbers.

The combine information is quite interesting. The eye-test makes Randle look more explosive to me but maybe that was more a function of position with CMB playing the 5. I think CMB was already more efficient given their TS% (.624 vs .567).

I’m pretty high on CMB given the role he will come into. There will be very little pressure on his offense—basically set screens and be an efficient finisher like Poeltl. I also think his defensive skills should translate well once he gets up to NBA speed. For his agility he would do well to shed any extra weight, which hopefully will happen with a higher level of training.

Combine numbers are kinda useless to me to an extent.

Scottie’s was significantly better than Cooper and CMB’s testing numbers yet CMB and Cooper are way more explosive with the ball with a live dribble in their hands. Combine athleticism doesn’t equal in game athleticism.

Combine numbers are often a poor reflection athletic expression in-game. Testing a two-step max vertical in an open gym is very different mechanically than euro stepping around a defender at full speed and still being able to elevate for a dunk. One is useful in-game.

[HumbleRen]

The combine information is quite interesting. The eye-test makes Randle look more explosive to me but maybe that was more a function of position with CMB playing the 5. I think CMB was already more efficient given their TS% (.624 vs .567).

I’m pretty high on CMB given the role he will come into. There will be very little pressure on his offense—basically set screens and be an efficient finisher like Poeltl. I also think his defensive skills should translate well once he gets up to NBA speed. For his agility he would do well to shed any extra weight, which hopefully will happen with a higher level of training.

Combine numbers are kinda useless to me to an extent.

Scottie’s was significantly better than Cooper and CMB’s testing numbers yet CMB and Cooper are way more explosive with the ball with a live dribble in their hands. Combine athleticism doesn’t equal in game athleticism.

Combine numbers are often a poor reflection athletic expression in-game. Testing a two-step max vertical in an open gym is very different mechanically than euro stepping around a defender at full speed and still being able to elevate for a dunk. One is useful in-game.

Precisely.

[OakleyDokely]

how about this comparable

[TheGeneral99]

So is he the GOAT?

[bboyskinnylegs]

So is he the GOAT?

yes, but we need to wait until Friday to make it official

[God Squad]

CMB was arguably the most polarizing prospect in the draft other than Ace Bailey. You either "LOVED HIM" or you had serious question marks on how his NBA fit/transition would be. I fall in the latter, but it would be ignorant of me to ignore how dominant he was at South Carolina. He is truly an analytical darling, and his half-court offense is impressive for a player of his size.

It'll be interesting to see if analytics proves he's a top 5 type, and the skepticism was unwarranted.

[RoteSchroder]

The combine information is quite interesting. The eye-test makes Randle look more explosive to me but maybe that was more a function of position with CMB playing the 5. I think CMB was already more efficient given their TS% (.624 vs .567).

I’m pretty high on CMB given the role he will come into. There will be very little pressure on his offense—basically set screens and be an efficient finisher like Poeltl. I also think his defensive skills should translate well once he gets up to NBA speed. For his agility he would do well to shed any extra weight, which hopefully will happen with a higher level of training.

Combine numbers are kinda useless to me to an extent.

Scottie’s was significantly better than Cooper and CMB’s testing numbers yet CMB and Cooper are way more explosive with the ball with a live dribble in their hands. Combine athleticism doesn’t equal in game athleticism.

Combine numbers are often a poor reflection athletic expression in-game. Testing a two-step max vertical in an open gym is very different mechanically than euro stepping around a defender at full speed and still being able to elevate for a dunk. One is useful in-game.

I mean..it depends on how you interpret the numbers. It doesn’t tell you a lot of things, like center of balance, strength, skill. Scottie is still fairly athletic, shows up more on the defensive end.

I remember DD had worse numbers than Harden in certain areas and DD was touted as an “athletic raw prospect” at the time while Harden was said to be unathletic, which was weird to me because aside from max vert, I didn’t see DD as that explosive or fast on the court. In the end, I feel like his combine numbers was representative of his athletic limitations on the court.

[HumbleRen]

CMB was arguably the most polarizing prospect in the draft other than Ace Bailey. You either "LOVED HIM" or you had serious question marks on how his NBA fit/transition would be. I fall in the latter, but it would be ignorant of me to ignore how dominant he was at South Carolina. He is truly an analytical darling, and his half-court offense is impressive for a player of his size.

It'll be interesting to see if analytics proves he's a top 5 type, and the skepticism was unwarranted.

I’m in the same boat.

My only issue outside of his shooting flaws is the way he scored his buckets. I don’t think he’ll be able to do that in the NBA to that degree. He was picking on flat footed centers.

[Duffman100]

CMB was arguably the most polarizing prospect in the draft other than Ace Bailey. You either "LOVED HIM" or you had serious question marks on how his NBA fit/transition would be. I fall in the latter, but it would be ignorant of me to ignore how dominant he was at South Carolina. He is truly an analytical darling, and his half-court offense is impressive for a player of his size.

It'll be interesting to see if analytics proves he's a top 5 type, and the skepticism was unwarranted.

Yeah I had Ace, Denim and CMB as people I didn't really want to draft.

But man, I'm always just so wrong. So who knows.

[God Squad]

CMB was arguably the most polarizing prospect in the draft other than Ace Bailey. You either "LOVED HIM" or you had serious question marks on how his NBA fit/transition would be. I fall in the latter, but it would be ignorant of me to ignore how dominant he was at South Carolina. He is truly an analytical darling, and his half-court offense is impressive for a player of his size.

It'll be interesting to see if analytics proves he's a top 5 type, and the skepticism was unwarranted.

I’m in the same boat.

My only issue outside of his shooting flaws is the way he scored his buckets. I don’t think he’ll be able to do that in the NBA to that degree. He was picking on flat footed centers.

See, I think he's craftier than most give him credit for. I think his defense and processing speed will show in half-court sets. I went from DND to intrigued. I still have worries, but I'm hoping the analytics guys are right.

[God Squad]

CMB was arguably the most polarizing prospect in the draft other than Ace Bailey. You either "LOVED HIM" or you had serious question marks on how his NBA fit/transition would be. I fall in the latter, but it would be ignorant of me to ignore how dominant he was at South Carolina. He is truly an analytical darling, and his half-court offense is impressive for a player of his size.

It'll be interesting to see if analytics proves he's a top 5 type, and the skepticism was unwarranted.

Yeah I had Ace, Denim and CMB as people I didn't really want to draft.

But man, I'm always just so wrong. So who knows.

I only had two DND

CMB
Kasparas


With CMB it was more fit. I think he and Scottie aren't ideal at all. BUT CMB fans are loud, and TBH, there are a lot of them.

I just didn't see it with Jak. I have plenty posts with him as a DND.
1. turnovers issues
2. Jumper abandoned him
3. sub par defense
4. Needs a screen to get downhill
5. overrated passer IMO

[OakleyDokely]

CMB was on a terrible team in the toughest conference and he was still efficient as a fresh and soph as the lead guy on high usage. That's usually a good sign.

[HumbleRen]

CMB was arguably the most polarizing prospect in the draft other than Ace Bailey. You either "LOVED HIM" or you had serious question marks on how his NBA fit/transition would be. I fall in the latter, but it would be ignorant of me to ignore how dominant he was at South Carolina. He is truly an analytical darling, and his half-court offense is impressive for a player of his size.

It'll be interesting to see if analytics proves he's a top 5 type, and the skepticism was unwarranted.

I’m in the same boat.

My only issue outside of his shooting flaws is the way he scored his buckets. I don’t think he’ll be able to do that in the NBA to that degree. He was picking on flat footed centers.

See, I think he's craftier than most give him credit for. I think his defense and processing speed will show in half-court sets. I went from DND to intrigued. I still have worries, but I'm hoping the analytics guys are right.

I think he is too. He has phenomenal body control with more than adequate handles. I’m just a bit concerned by it.

[WuTang_OG]

defensive tape is all draymond

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[tsherkin]

CMB was arguably the most polarizing prospect in the draft other than Ace Bailey. You either "LOVED HIM" or you had serious question marks on how his NBA fit/transition would be. I fall in the latter, but it would be ignorant of me to ignore how dominant he was at South Carolina. He is truly an analytical darling, and his half-court offense is impressive for a player of his size.

It'll be interesting to see if analytics proves he's a top 5 type, and the skepticism was unwarranted.

Yeah I had Ace, Denim and CMB as people I didn't really want to draft.

But man, I'm always just so wrong. So who knows.

Even when you're paying attention, the draft is hard. We obviously haven't seen any of this draft class in real play yet, so it's unclear... but every year, there are guys who look like locks who just never get it, guys no one was thinking about who get it together, guys who buck trends and succeed, etc, etc. You stack variables for likelihood and what-not, but at the end of the day, it's all just a gamble, especially with guys who've only played a year or tw in college.

[DreamTeam09]

Samson called him an Elite mover and I tend to agree. CMB footwork is amazing, he's going to break defenses and attract attention/help just based on his Size/Footwork ratio.

[JCP11]

CMB was arguably the most polarizing prospect in the draft other than Ace Bailey. You either "LOVED HIM" or you had serious question marks on how his NBA fit/transition would be. I fall in the latter, but it would be ignorant of me to ignore how dominant he was at South Carolina. He is truly an analytical darling, and his half-court offense is impressive for a player of his size.

It'll be interesting to see if analytics proves he's a top 5 type, and the skepticism was unwarranted.

I’m in the same boat.

My only issue outside of his shooting flaws is the way he scored his buckets. I don’t think he’ll be able to do that in the NBA to that degree. He was picking on flat footed centers.

He scored on everybody. He was bigger and stronger than a lot of players he went against in college and that won't change in the NBA. He actually has a good middy, we'll see if they let him use it.

[HumbleRen]

CMB was arguably the most polarizing prospect in the draft other than Ace Bailey. You either "LOVED HIM" or you had serious question marks on how his NBA fit/transition would be. I fall in the latter, but it would be ignorant of me to ignore how dominant he was at South Carolina. He is truly an analytical darling, and his half-court offense is impressive for a player of his size.

It'll be interesting to see if analytics proves he's a top 5 type, and the skepticism was unwarranted.

I’m in the same boat.

My only issue outside of his shooting flaws is the way he scored his buckets. I don’t think he’ll be able to do that in the NBA to that degree. He was picking on flat footed centers.

He scored on everybody. He was bigger and stronger than a lot of players he went against in college and that won't change in the NBA. He actually has a good middy, we'll see if they let him use it.

I think a good middy is a stretch but the staff will definitely encourage him to shoot like they did with Mogbo.

[God Squad]

CMB was arguably the most polarizing prospect in the draft other than Ace Bailey. You either "LOVED HIM" or you had serious question marks on how his NBA fit/transition would be. I fall in the latter, but it would be ignorant of me to ignore how dominant he was at South Carolina. He is truly an analytical darling, and his half-court offense is impressive for a player of his size.

It'll be interesting to see if analytics proves he's a top 5 type, and the skepticism was unwarranted.

I’m in the same boat.

My only issue outside of his shooting flaws is the way he scored his buckets. I don’t think he’ll be able to do that in the NBA to that degree. He was picking on flat footed centers.

He scored on everybody. He was bigger and stronger than a lot of players he went against in college and that won't change in the NBA. He actually has a good middy, we'll see if they let him use it.

Full Stop. Why do you think/feel this way? I understand he was pretty damn dominant at college and his analytics are steller.

I ask because I have a hard time projecting him in the NBA (position+jumper), but I do love a lot about his game.

[ATLTimekeeper]

He doesn't have a good middy, but he has one. Mogbo absolutely does not. He's definitely going to have that in his game as he progresses through his career.

The Raptors love taking stabs at weak shooters because it's the easiest thing to work on, and NBA development is largely through the empty gym hours.