Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah

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Re: Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah 

Post#41 » by mademan » Mon Jul 7, 2025 3:35 pm

Ya I think this was done with the idea that Beal is coming as well. Really shored up their FC depth, i like the Clips at the head of the non OKC/Nuggets tier, slightly ahead of Houston
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Re: Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah 

Post#42 » by LightTheBeam » Mon Jul 7, 2025 3:41 pm

Put me on the side of LA being the winners here. Collins gets over criticized for being paid too much, but on a winning team i expect good basketball.
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Re: Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah 

Post#43 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Mon Jul 7, 2025 3:43 pm

Interesting overall outcome for LAC. Must’ve realized they weren’t extending Powell and so he was likely walking anyway.

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Re: Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah 

Post#45 » by BBallFreak » Mon Jul 7, 2025 3:45 pm

LightTheBeam wrote:Put me on the side of LA being the winners here. Collins gets over criticized for being paid too much, but on a winning team i expect good basketball.

LA definitely did well. I love this for them
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Re: Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah 

Post#46 » by TrueLAfan » Mon Jul 7, 2025 3:51 pm

This is a calculated risk move that is likely to work out for the Clippers. Collins fits a positional need perfectly; we've needed a spacing PF in the starting lineup for years. He’s also, probably, overpaid this year. But he’s also expiring, and that means if he works out and has a great year, we can resign him to a long term deal that will take him and us through his peak years. If he’s just okay, we can probably sign him for less. And he’s a total bust with us, we get the cap space next year. There’s some risk, but enough chance for the upside to pan out for me to like the move. And, yes, I think this puts the Clippers in the driver’s seat in the Bradley Beal buyout sweepstakes.
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Re: Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah 

Post#47 » by youngcrev » Mon Jul 7, 2025 3:53 pm

The fact that John Collins is only 27 years old is insane. He's been in the league for close to a decade at this point.

I don't hate this for LA honestly. They size up and get an actual 4 man so that Kawhi doesn't have to play there. Collins should look good playing with Harden as a lob threat/stand still shooter. Harden/Dunn with Bogdanovic off the bench seems like a solid enough guard rotation

Value seems off on the surface though.
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Re: Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah 

Post#48 » by ReggiesKnicks » Mon Jul 7, 2025 3:55 pm

I think everyone would love if the Clippers stole Luka in Free Agency from the Lakers.
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Re: Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah 

Post#49 » by Crazy-Canuck » Mon Jul 7, 2025 4:00 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:did not have Collins worth more than Powell, but we are seeing this cycle that small offensive guards are holding no value


Yup, we are seeing quite an awakening.
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Re: Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah 

Post#50 » by MartinToVaught » Mon Jul 7, 2025 4:01 pm

gswhoops wrote:Great for Miami. Don’t really get it for Utah or LA

Norm played way over his head for the first half of last season and will probably never be that good again. We haven't had a legit power forward since Blake. Kawhi has been begging the front office for years to bring in a true 4 so he doesn't have to play out of position anymore. We are also probably getting Beal once he's bought out, and I assume the FO thinks he can provide a reasonable facsimile of what Norm brought to the table.

Most of Frank's moves are nonsensical, this is a rare one where there actually seems to be logic behind it.
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Post#51 » by jbk1234 » Mon Jul 7, 2025 4:07 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:did not have Collins worth more than Powell, but we are seeing this cycle that small offensive guards are holding no value


I think we might be at the point where it's a bit of an over correction. The regular season isn't going to be officiated like playoffs and you still need guys who can put the ball in the hoop over an 82 game span.
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Re: Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah 

Post#52 » by JeffFosters » Mon Jul 7, 2025 4:12 pm

So Utah have turned Collins, Sexton and Clarkson into Anderson, Nurkic, Love and 2 2nds

Not great.
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Re: Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah 

Post#53 » by BBallFreak » Mon Jul 7, 2025 4:13 pm

Man, Miami is going to be able to stop some people. Mitchell, Highsmith, Wiggins, Powell, Bam, and Ware?
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Re: Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah 

Post#54 » by Crazy-Canuck » Mon Jul 7, 2025 4:15 pm

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Texas Chuck wrote:did not have Collins worth more than Powell, but we are seeing this cycle that small offensive guards are holding no value


I think we might be at the point where it's a bit of an over correction. The regular season isn't going to be officiated like playoffs and you still need guys who can put the ball in the hoop over an 82 game span.


Yes, but how many of these "contenders" can afford to have these types take up to 40-50M of the cap knowing they will be ineffective in the playoffs?

Even the kings are trying to unload 2 of these types.
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Re: Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah 

Post#55 » by babyjax13 » Mon Jul 7, 2025 4:17 pm

Anyone have an expiring and a 2nd or two on offer for Kyle Anderson? Contract should be about the same amount (say 7-14 million). We have some small contracts we can aggregate, too.
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Post#56 » by SkyHook » Mon Jul 7, 2025 4:35 pm

Jazz drop $13.2MM in payroll, pick up a small asset and a large TE. I'm fine with this.

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Re: Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah 

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Post#58 » by babyjax13 » Mon Jul 7, 2025 4:39 pm

Yah, going to assume Love won't be in Utah lol
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Re: Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah 

Post#59 » by Xman » Mon Jul 7, 2025 4:41 pm

Seems like the $13 mil is more important than the picks in this deal.
Utah can full tank without trying to tank now. Can’t fine them for not playing their good players when they don’t have any. Will let them give the prospects minutes to evaluate them before having to decide about paying them.
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Re: Shams: Powell to Miami, Collins to LA, Love,SloMo,2nd to Utah 

Post#60 » by Xman » Mon Jul 7, 2025 4:51 pm

Follow up deal: Sacramento gets Markky.
Utah gets LaVine, picks. Maybe Minnesota 2031 first, 2027 SA first.
Let’s full tank and Utah can keep dealing cap space.
Sac gets a guy that might click with Sabonis/Murray.

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