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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Rollins Back, 3/$12 million 

Post#1901 » by BigO » Mon Jul 7, 2025 7:11 pm

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Bernman wrote:I'd like the Brogdon signing if we didn't also get Gary Harris. That one was so superfluous. I don't get it. We could have pulled the trigger on that at the end, if everything else fell thru. Now we'd have serious positional/role redundance.

The Harris signing's going to make even less sense if we get Beal. And then we have another creative engine, so less need for another pg. We have POA defenders & guys who can guard down.


Yeah, it seems like hes a pretty big liability on offense. At near AJax levels, just going off of OLebron. That metric is not kind if all you can do is kinda shoot.

His defense looks good so maybe hes just situational. I know there's the agent theory with him but looking past that, i dont think its bad to have a plus defender on the team with experience especially if he can guard wings.



I'm convinced that Harris is an agent add on, but if Harris sticks to open threes and defense (Tucker role), then no problem.
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Post#1902 » by Ron Swanson » Mon Jul 7, 2025 7:13 pm

Horst really sat there after getting clobbered in that playoff series and thought, "Don't worry, I'll get you clowns soon enough...."
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Post#1903 » by PG Graveyard » Mon Jul 7, 2025 7:17 pm

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Post#1904 » by RRyder823 » Mon Jul 7, 2025 7:20 pm

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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Rollins Back, 3/$12 million 

Post#1905 » by stillgotgame » Mon Jul 7, 2025 7:23 pm

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raferfenix wrote:Summary of Fischer/Stein's latest on guards the Bucks may or may not be interested in:

An expectation that Bradley Beal will soon become an unrestricted free agent is affecting the markets for free agent guards Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook, and Malcolm Brogdon, who are drawing interest from many of the same teams, writes Jake Fischer of The Stein Line (Substack link).

According to Fischer, the Clippers, Lakers, Bucks, and Timberwolves are among the teams expected to have interest in signing Beal if and when he finalizes a buyout agreement with the Suns, which seems increasingly likely. A previous report also identified the Warriors as a possible suitor for Beal, with the Heat viewed as less likely after their trade for Norman Powell.

The Clippers and Bucks are known to have interest in Paul, Fischer points out, so if Beal ends up with one of those teams, it would likely rule that club out for CP3, perhaps increasing the odds of the 40-year-old reuniting with the Suns.

As for Brogdon, he has the Clippers, Suns, Lakers, Warriors, Timberwolves, and Bucks are also among the teams that have registered some level of interest in him, along with the Pelicans and Kings, Fischer reports.

Free agents like De’Anthony Melton and Ben Simmons may also find themselves involved in this game of backcourt musical chairs, according to Fischer, who suggests that their potential landing spots should become more clearer once one or two of those top guards – starting with Beal – finds a new home.


https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2025/07/free-agent-rumors-guards-kuminga-pacers-hayes.html


Just **** sign Melton you cowards.


Melton could really play D a couple years ago. I wonder if he’s healthy again.
Someone explain why we want Beal to me. He was spoonfed into a super team between KD and Booker and did nothing. Why is he going to suddenly be hungry, I don’t get it.
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Post#1906 » by BroncoBuck » Mon Jul 7, 2025 7:24 pm

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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Rollins Back, 3/$12 million 

Post#1907 » by soxperry » Mon Jul 7, 2025 7:24 pm

stillgotgame wrote:
emunney wrote:
raferfenix wrote:Summary of Fischer/Stein's latest on guards the Bucks may or may not be interested in:



https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2025/07/free-agent-rumors-guards-kuminga-pacers-hayes.html


Just **** sign Melton you cowards.


Melton could really play D a couple years ago. I wonder if he’s healthy again.
Someone explain why we want Beal to me. He was spoonfed into a super team between KD and Booker and did nothing. Why is he going to suddenly be hungry, I don’t get it.
Give me someone hungry, rather than a used to be.


Yeah thats how i feel too.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Rollins Back, 3/$12 million 

Post#1908 » by BUCKnation » Mon Jul 7, 2025 7:29 pm

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Bernman wrote:I'd like the Brogdon signing if we didn't also get Gary Harris. That one was so superfluous. I don't get it. We could have pulled the trigger on that at the end, if everything else fell thru. Now we'd have serious positional/role redundance.

The Harris signing's going to make even less sense if we get Beal. And then we have another creative engine, so less need for another pg. We have POA defenders & guys who can guard down.


Yeah, it seems like hes a pretty big liability on offense. At near AJax levels, just going off of OLebron. That metric is not kind if all you can do is kinda shoot.

His defense looks good so maybe hes just situational. I know there's the agent theory with him but looking past that, i dont think its bad to have a plus defender on the team with experience especially if he can guard wings.



I'm convinced that Harris is an agent add on, but if Harris sticks to open threes and defense (Tucker role), then no problem.

It has to be, I can think of at least 10 guys still available that I'd take over him and we agreed to a deal with him almost immediately.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Rollins Back, 3/$12 million 

Post#1909 » by skbucks1985 » Mon Jul 7, 2025 7:33 pm

For me the question about Beal is how much credence do you put into some of the malcontent stuff you heard about him. Because from a strictly basketball perspective, even if he's doing what he did with the Suns I'll happily take that.
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Post#1910 » by soxperry » Mon Jul 7, 2025 7:36 pm

skbucks1985 wrote:For me the question about Beal is how much credence do you put into some of the malcontent stuff you heard about him. Because from a strictly basketball perspective, even if he's doing what he did with the Suns I'll happily take that.


So why are the Suns paying him to go away?
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Post#1911 » by Ron Swanson » Mon Jul 7, 2025 7:37 pm

According to BBall-Reference, Harris did log 39% of his minutes at "point guard" 2-seasons ago. Seems like a reach if the plan is for him to be the break-glass-in-case-of-emergency guy there, but maybe that's the thought process. Just hilarious that we had to give him a player option.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Rollins Back, 3/$12 million 

Post#1912 » by skbucks1985 » Mon Jul 7, 2025 7:41 pm

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skbucks1985 wrote:For me the question about Beal is how much credence do you put into some of the malcontent stuff you heard about him. Because from a strictly basketball perspective, even if he's doing what he did with the Suns I'll happily take that.


So why are the Suns paying him to go away?


For the same reason the Bucks did to Dame, to save money which allows for additional roster maneuverability. Plus, him, Booker and Jalen Green is even more redundancy than last year with KD.
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Post#1913 » by Prez » Mon Jul 7, 2025 7:47 pm

I really want there to be no holes defensively in the main rotation. Now we’re already falling short of that with Bobby, but that’s okay with Giannis/Turner/Sims there to help. I get the Beal fascination but he’s total **** on defense, I want our guards to actually try. Between KPJ/Green/Rollins/GTJ we have a quartet of young ish guards that will to varying extents get after it on that end, it could be fun as hell. Beal ruins that.

I think all of this is a moot point, I don’t think he’s seriously considering us, I think it’s a leverage play.

I like the Melton suggestion, if he’s healthy.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Rollins Back, 3/$12 million 

Post#1914 » by soxperry » Mon Jul 7, 2025 7:50 pm

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skbucks1985 wrote:For me the question about Beal is how much credence do you put into some of the malcontent stuff you heard about him. Because from a strictly basketball perspective, even if he's doing what he did with the Suns I'll happily take that.


So why are the Suns paying him to go away?


For the same reason the Bucks did to Dame, to save money which allows for additional roster maneuverability. Plus, him, Booker and Jalen Green is even more redundancy than last year with KD.


Its not like Dame at all. Dude is fully healthy. Im just responding to the question of proof for malcontent.. there it is.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Rollins Back, 3/$12 million 

Post#1915 » by engelmartin » Mon Jul 7, 2025 7:50 pm

If Horst’s got other moves, he probably doesn’t want to let them overshadow the Turner signing. He’ll probably wait a few days to get maximum mileage out of it.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Rollins Back, 3/$12 million 

Post#1916 » by MickeyDavis » Mon Jul 7, 2025 7:53 pm

Of course the Pacers are going to spin it as "we were prepared to go deep into the tax". They can suck it.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Rollins Back, 3/$12 million 

Post#1917 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Jul 7, 2025 7:56 pm

I prefer to think of it as all things were equal and Turner just wanted to play with the Bucks and Giannis instead because he was so sick of Hali's ****.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Rollins Back, 3/$12 million 

Post#1918 » by Bernman » Mon Jul 7, 2025 7:57 pm

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Incidentally, his agent in Mark Bartelstein, who used to be who the Bucks had their chief relationship w/, before Rich Paul replaced him. FWIW, we still have Bobby repped by him.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Rollins Back, 3/$12 million 

Post#1919 » by raferfenix » Mon Jul 7, 2025 7:59 pm

Pacers had Turner on the block for most of his career.

It'd be even funnier if they actually would have matched and he just said screw it I'm out.

Bucks waiving Dame showed the extent to which we value Myles in stark contrast to Indiana low balling him because it's a bad offseason to be a free agent.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Rollins Back, 3/$12 million 

Post#1920 » by skbucks1985 » Mon Jul 7, 2025 8:02 pm

soxperry wrote:
skbucks1985 wrote:
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So why are the Suns paying him to go away?


For the same reason the Bucks did to Dame, to save money which allows for additional roster maneuverability. Plus, him, Booker and Jalen Green is even more redundancy than last year with KD.


Its not like Dame at all. Dude is fully healthy. Im just responding to the question of proof for malcontent.. there it is.


But it is the same as Dame because they're prioritizing the saved money and additional roster flexibility above that player. In the Bucks case it was because Dame is injured and in the Suns case its plausible that its because of the redundancy with the current roster.

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