03-06’ Pistons - Rank the starters 1-5 based on importance

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Re: 03-06’ Pistons - Rank the starters 1-5 based on importance 

Post#21 » by dooki667 » Mon Jul 7, 2025 11:34 pm

One_and_Done wrote:If Ben was the most valuable Piston then we probably wouldn't have seen them win 53 and 59 games the 2 years after ditching him. The only reason they didn't win more in 07 was because they were playing Webber & Nazr at the 5. Once they started McDyess the team was humming again.

The real drop off came after they moved Billups for Iverson, cratering to 39 wins while the Nuggets he was sent to actually got better.

Im worried this comparison isn't Detroit minus Ben Wallace to Detroit minus Chauncey but instead it's Detroit minus Ben to Detroit minus Ben AND Chauncey.
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Re: 03-06’ Pistons - Rank the starters 1-5 based on importance 

Post#22 » by Snakebites » Mon Jul 7, 2025 11:38 pm

dooki667 wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:If Ben was the most valuable Piston then we probably wouldn't have seen them win 53 and 59 games the 2 years after ditching him. The only reason they didn't win more in 07 was because they were playing Webber & Nazr at the 5. Once they started McDyess the team was humming again.

The real drop off came after they moved Billups for Iverson, cratering to 39 wins while the Nuggets he was sent to actually got better.

Im worried this comparison isn't Detroit minus Ben Wallace to Detroit minus Chauncey but instead it's Detroit minus Ben to Detroit minus Ben AND Chauncey.

No, all that's being compared is:

Ben and Chauncey vs just Chauncey

and

just Chauncey vs both gone

The latter gap is quite a bit larger.
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Re: 03-06’ Pistons - Rank the starters 1-5 based on importance 

Post#23 » by dooki667 » Mon Jul 7, 2025 11:44 pm

Snakebites wrote:
dooki667 wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:If Ben was the most valuable Piston then we probably wouldn't have seen them win 53 and 59 games the 2 years after ditching him. The only reason they didn't win more in 07 was because they were playing Webber & Nazr at the 5. Once they started McDyess the team was humming again.

The real drop off came after they moved Billups for Iverson, cratering to 39 wins while the Nuggets he was sent to actually got better.

Im worried this comparison isn't Detroit minus Ben Wallace to Detroit minus Chauncey but instead it's Detroit minus Ben to Detroit minus Ben AND Chauncey.

No, all that's being compared is:

Ben and Chauncey vs just Chauncey

and

just Chauncey vs both gone

The latter gap is quite a bit larger.
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Re: 03-06’ Pistons - Rank the starters 1-5 based on importance 

Post#24 » by dooki667 » Mon Jul 7, 2025 11:46 pm

dooki667 wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
dooki667 wrote:Im worried this comparison isn't Detroit minus Ben Wallace to Detroit minus Chauncey but instead it's Detroit minus Ben to Detroit minus Ben AND Chauncey.

No, all that's being compared is:

Ben and Chauncey vs just Chauncey

and

just Chauncey vs both gone

The latter gap is quite a bit larger.

If we do this with a prime Dwayne and LeBron on the heat I feel like whichever one goes second is gonna be the one seemingly causing the crater.

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