Jalen Bluntson wrote:

frank too powerful. man posts a grid with mad names on it. who gets all the focus?
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Jalen Bluntson wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:nykballa2k4 wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Where on earth is Frank doing the same moves SGA is doing when he was in college? SGA was much more advanced in college than Frank ever was at any point in his career. They’re extremely different.
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Frank highlight. Same age as SGA in you college highlight track. He is making shots, passing well, driving, finishing through contact....
Yea idk what you’re watching
nykballa2k4 wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:nykballa2k4 wrote:Frank highlight. Same age as SGA in you college highlight track. He is making shots, passing well, driving, finishing through contact....
Yea idk what you’re watching
I don't know why you are still arguing. It doesn't make much sense. Both had similar draft profiles and were projected and picked in the same range.
Not saying that Frank should be an MVP, but there is a universe where Frank plays with CP3 or is coached by a developmental guy and is much better than he is. There is also a universe where SGA is drafted by a dysfunctional franchise trying to hang on to an ageing chucking superstar and being a lesser version of what he is today.
At the end of the day this is a lot of what-ifs, but our back and forth is kinda pointless because you are living in the present and taking full advantage of hindsight. My argument was about height, wingspan, end to end speed, jump and reach etc. Both were lauded for defensive chops and questioned on the offensive side of the ball.
im watchin sga's highlights from last night
he look like the player we all want frank to be...
3toheadmelo wrote:nykballa2k4 wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Yea idk what you’re watching
I don't know why you are still arguing. It doesn't make much sense. Both had similar draft profiles and were projected and picked in the same range.
Not saying that Frank should be an MVP, but there is a universe where Frank plays with CP3 or is coached by a developmental guy and is much better than he is. There is also a universe where SGA is drafted by a dysfunctional franchise trying to hang on to an ageing chucking superstar and being a lesser version of what he is today.
At the end of the day this is a lot of what-ifs, but our back and forth is kinda pointless because you are living in the present and taking full advantage of hindsight. My argument was about height, wingspan, end to end speed, jump and reach etc. Both were lauded for defensive chops and questioned on the offensive side of the ball.
You’re the only one dying on this hill. They only have similar physical attributes. Offensively, SGA was miles and miles ahead of Frank in college than Frank was in Europe. Worst case scenario, SGA would be a fro gr all star with awful coaching and development. Frank never got better the moment he left the Knicks so it was never a coaching problem with him, it was his talent.
I wasn’t that high on SGA in college cause I wasn’t sure about his jumper translating, but I said this about him in 2018. I said it back then he was already ahead of Frank even in Kentucky.im watchin sga's highlights from last night
he look like the player we all want frank to be...
So I’m not sure why you’re arguing about them being similar.
nykballa2k4 wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:nykballa2k4 wrote:I don't know why you are still arguing. It doesn't make much sense. Both had similar draft profiles and were projected and picked in the same range.
Not saying that Frank should be an MVP, but there is a universe where Frank plays with CP3 or is coached by a developmental guy and is much better than he is. There is also a universe where SGA is drafted by a dysfunctional franchise trying to hang on to an ageing chucking superstar and being a lesser version of what he is today.
At the end of the day this is a lot of what-ifs, but our back and forth is kinda pointless because you are living in the present and taking full advantage of hindsight. My argument was about height, wingspan, end to end speed, jump and reach etc. Both were lauded for defensive chops and questioned on the offensive side of the ball.
You’re the only one dying on this hill. They only have similar physical attributes. Offensively, SGA was miles and miles ahead of Frank in college than Frank was in Europe. Worst case scenario, SGA would be a fro gr all star with awful coaching and development. Frank never got better the moment he left the Knicks so it was never a coaching problem with him, it was his talent.
I wasn’t that high on SGA in college cause I wasn’t sure about his jumper translating, but I said this about him in 2018. I said it back then he was already ahead of Frank even in Kentucky.im watchin sga's highlights from last night
he look like the player we all want frank to be...
So I’m not sure why you’re arguing about them being similar.
I think you just proved my point.
3toheadmelo wrote:nykballa2k4 wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:You’re the only one dying on this hill. They only have similar physical attributes. Offensively, SGA was miles and miles ahead of Frank in college than Frank was in Europe. Worst case scenario, SGA would be a fro gr all star with awful coaching and development. Frank never got better the moment he left the Knicks so it was never a coaching problem with him, it was his talent.
I wasn’t that high on SGA in college cause I wasn’t sure about his jumper translating, but I said this about him in 2018. I said it back then he was already ahead of Frank even in Kentucky.
So I’m not sure why you’re arguing about them being similar.
I think you just proved my point.
I wanted Frank to be a 3 level scoring threat that Shai was showing off in those highlights which obviously was never Frank’s game ever.
nykballa2k4 wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:nykballa2k4 wrote:
I think you just proved my point.
I wanted Frank to be a 3 level scoring threat that Shai was showing off in those highlights which obviously was never Frank’s game ever.
He never developed. As a result of nature and nurture, it never happened for him. But we all had those hopes.
3toheadmelo wrote:nykballa2k4 wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:I wanted Frank to be a 3 level scoring threat that Shai was showing off in those highlights which obviously was never Frank’s game ever.
He never developed. As a result of nature and nurture, it never happened for him. But we all had those hopes.
Best case scenario for Frank was a high level 3 and D guy. He just never had the bag, handles, mentality to be a scorer like SGA.
Jeff Van Gully wrote:Jalen Bluntson wrote:
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frank too powerful. man posts a grid with mad names on it. who gets all the focus?
Kampuchea wrote:Franks stats aren’t even that bad, wasn’t he decent at 3s and can play D? Not good enough for an end of bench spot?
Zenzibar wrote:Nevertheless, Payton is not a finished product yet and unless the team moves him in a couple of weeks, I anticipate him trending upward with this coaching staff.
nedleeds wrote:Even I admitted I was wrong about Frank.
HarthorneWingo wrote:Frank’s problem was/is between his ears.
Jalen Bluntson wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:Frank’s problem was/is between his ears.
Also between his legs! :I He pulled his groin more than a teenager!
HarthorneWingo wrote:Jalen Bluntson wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:Frank’s problem was/is between his ears.
Also between his legs! :I He pulled his groin more than a teenager!
Okay okay. Jesus.
Why are talking about Crank? What’s he even doing these days Is he playing ball in Europe.
god shammgod wrote:Ned was a frank footer ? Jesus. Like finding out MOP were actually choir boys.
Zenzibar wrote:Nevertheless, Payton is not a finished product yet and unless the team moves him in a couple of weeks, I anticipate him trending upward with this coaching staff.
HarthorneWingo wrote:Jalen Bluntson wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:Frank’s problem was/is between his ears.
Also between his legs! :I He pulled his groin more than a teenager!
Okay okay. Jesus.
Why are talking about Frank? What’s he even doing these days Is he playing ball in Europe.