2025 Sixers Summer League

AI_Efficiency · Post #401 » by **AI_Efficiency** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 3:57 am

I guess this is why, good or bad, you don’t want to overreact to a small sample size of games, but I thought Ace Bailey looked great tonight.

Negrodamus · Post #402 » by **Negrodamus** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 3:58 am

Read on Twitter

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For the record, I never said Ace wouldn’t be good. I said he’d be a very good, 3&D role player. Buying into the C&S role will be key for him.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #403 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 4:03 am

Boy Bailey looked great tonight. Like Edgecombe he's gonna take his lumps, but he's going to be a player in this league. Utah got a good one. Looks a lot bigger than 6'7. Shot looks smooth too. Good for him. No hate. Like I said, there'll be ups and downs for all these rooks.

Kobblehead · Post #404 » by **Kobblehead** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 12:32 pm

76ciology wrote:How big is the gap between Brice Sensabaugh and Tre Johnson? Not much

Tre Johnson at least has positional athleticism and length. Doesn't that give him the clear edge?

Jailblazers7 · Post #405 » by **Jailblazers7** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 12:42 pm

Nice game for Ace. I think the story for him will always be that when the shot is falling he looks great but when it’s not he looks awful. His path to stardom is becoming an elite 3pt shooter because that quick release at his height will be a real weapon.

Wilfried · Post #406 » by **Wilfried** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 1:10 pm

Negrodamus wrote:

Read on Twitter
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For the record, I never said Ace wouldn’t be good. I said he’d be a very good, 3&D role player. Buying into the C&S role will be key for him.

I see some KG in him.

HotelVitale · Post #407 » by **HotelVitale** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 1:13 pm

I’ll admit it, we made the wrong pick.

Not sure if you’ve ever heard this before, but the best ability is a-VAIL-ability.

76ciology · Post #408 » by **76ciology** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 1:16 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
76ciology wrote:How big is the gap between Brice Sensabaugh and Tre Johnson? Not much

Tre Johnson at least has positional athleticism and length. Doesn't that give him the clear edge?

Sensa is a better rebounder, more versatile scorer, and has elite physical tools at 6’5” with a 7’2” wingspan. He averaged 40 points per 100 possessions, a mark only Trae Young and Zion Williamson have reached since 2016. He also shot 50/40/80 with a 58% true shooting percentage. His defense has shown improvement as well and is arguably better than Tre with better stocks numbers (he even blocked VJ on that breakaway dunk).

sodmoraes · Post #409 » by **sodmoraes** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 2:32 pm

Yeah, even if Ace cant improve as a driver, he has the reach to play center in this league, so he can shoot over people. Like Jailblazers7 said, if he can be pretty good from 3 he will be really good. And his defense potential is insane. I think VJ will be really good too, but i´m worried we will always have that "what if" situation with Ace....

Post #410 » by **Stanford** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 2:32 pm

Oh ffs guys

Jailblazers7 · Post #411 » by **Jailblazers7** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 2:39 pm

To be clear, I think VJ was the right pick before, during, and after draft day. He will have a better career than Ace by a comfortable margin and we will all be happy to have him as a Sixer for a long time.

For Ace, I made the Rudy Gay comparison early and stand by it. He will likely have some seasons in the 20+ ppg range but he will be an empty calories scorer that doesn’t fit on a winning team.

76ers76ers · Post #412 » by **76ers76ers** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 2:39 pm

Can’t believe we missed out on next Kevin Durant.

Iverson Armband · Post #413 » by **Iverson Armband** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 2:46 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:To be clear, I think VJ was the right pick before, during, and after draft day. He will have a better career than Ace by a comfortable margin and we will all be happy to have him as a Sixer for a long time.

For Ace, I made the Rudy Gay comparison early and stand by it. He will likely have some seasons in the 20+ ppg range but he will be an empty calories scorer that doesn’t fit on a winning team.

I think Ace will be a better rebounder and defender than Rudy.

HotelVitale · Post #414 » by **HotelVitale** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 2:49 pm

sodmoraes wrote:Yeah, even if Ace cant improve as a driver, he has the reach to play center in this league, so he can shoot over people.

He's 6'7 with a 7' wing span, and he's super thin. It's a stretch to have him play the 4 regularly on many teams.

I'm not sure what people were watching pre-draft but yeah he's pretty tall and hits tough shots and is pretty athletic. That's him. He also didn't shoot particularly well in college and wasn't a real defensive difference maker or anything. Good prospect but he really didn't show enough--and did show enough clear weaknesses--to keep him a clear top pick.

To my eyes he definitely doesn't just need to shoot kinda average to be great, like most prospects he has to be really good at his strengths and get better at some of the weak spots too. He has every chance to get there but it's not going to be an easy road and I don't think he has any better chance of being a nice pick than his peers.

Negrodamus · Post #415 » by **Negrodamus** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 3:18 pm

I look forward to Ace playing some center. Will be interesting.

M2J · Post #416 » by **M2J** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 3:29 pm

Iverson Armband wrote:
Jailblazers7 wrote:To be clear, I think VJ was the right pick before, during, and after draft day. He will have a better career than Ace by a comfortable margin and we will all be happy to have him as a Sixer for a long time.

For Ace, I made the Rudy Gay comparison early and stand by it. He will likely have some seasons in the 20+ ppg range but he will be an empty calories scorer that doesn’t fit on a winning team.

I think Ace will be a better rebounder and defender than Rudy.

Plus a better overall shooter

Kobblehead · Post #417 » by **Kobblehead** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 3:30 pm

The guy I'm worried about forming regret over not having is Nipples.

mjkvol · Post #418 » by **mjkvol** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 3:55 pm

Stanford wrote:Oh ffs guys

The moment to moment changes of opinions and mindsets is comical for a while, but they get old quickly.

It's f***king summer league, most of these guys will never see an NBA floor, and yet final judgments are thrown around on a play by play basis.

mjkvol · Post #419 » by **mjkvol** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 3:58 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:To be clear, I think VJ was the right pick before, during, and after draft day. He will have a better career than Ace by a comfortable margin and we will all be happy to have him as a Sixer for a long time.

For Ace, I made the Rudy Gay comparison early and stand by it. He will likely have some seasons in the 20+ ppg range but he will be an empty calories scorer that doesn’t fit on a winning team.

Watch it JB, that kind of resolute sticking with an opinion you came to after weeks of watching tape and studying players doesn't fly around here. I mean, what if VJ is 2-10 from the floor tonight and Bailey goes off for 30?

mjkvol · Post #420 » by **mjkvol** » Tue Jul 8, 2025 4:01 pm

Kobblehead wrote:The guy I'm worried about forming regret over not having is Nipples.

To me, Kon and VJ were the most "sure things" in the lottery part of the draft after Flagg. VJ has a higher upside, but Kon is going to be one of those guys that good teams want and need.