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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#901 » by Hoops3355 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 5:33 pm

Shewasfly wrote:We still need a PG. This team can very easily be pressed/trapped and have zero way of getting into the offense, especially when Herro is the only one that can create his own shot AND he's expected to be the primary handler. That's too much reliance on one player on that side of the ball.

JJJ is not a solution to bringing the ball up the court and starting the offense/creating. Imo, he should not even be starting next year. Jovic is more of a point forward and he is also another floor spacer.

Starting PG/Mitchell
Herro/Powell/Larsson
Jovic/JJJ
Bam/Jovic
Ware/Bam

If Cole 'Anthony comes available I think you jump on that. He's more of a scoring PG, but he is a good enough ball handler to handle a press and to initiate offense. Brogdon can also probably be had for very cheap and is more of a traditional point.

I wish we could have gotten John Collins too. I still think we need more of an actual scoring threat in the front court, even if it's coming off the bench.



Herro gonna be starting at the 1.

It's clear "I think" that's the move after all the off-season action. We gonna see Herro, Norm, Wiggs, Bam, and Ware. If they can flip Terry into someone useful that could become a 1A this team is not as doom and gloom as it should be with someone else taking Herro's spot sooner rather than later as the bigger plan if this fails.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#902 » by Hallstar » Tue Jul 8, 2025 5:34 pm

Speaking about back up centers, would we kick the tires on Precious again?
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Post#903 » by Lennyzinho » Tue Jul 8, 2025 5:36 pm

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Good fit for both


I need to go make a bet on Nuggets futures.

To turn MPJ and Dario Saric into Cam Johnson, Bruce Brown and Jonas/Horford is disgusting. Better fit, more depth, more flexibility. A+ moves imo.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#904 » by DayofMourning » Tue Jul 8, 2025 5:36 pm

Hallstar wrote:Speaking about back up centers, would we kick the tires on Precious again?


Id throw Goldin in to the fire tbh.
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Post#906 » by greg4012 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 5:45 pm

DayofMourning wrote:Remember that one time we traded Kyle Anderson and Kevin Love for Norm Powell?

Man, that was some chit.


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Post#907 » by greg4012 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 5:53 pm

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If he remains healthy, any team would be lucky to have him as a backup utility big. Boston will sorely miss him. He did an absurd amount of the unheralded work for their team functioning throughout the past 4 seasons (top 5 minute getter each of their playoff runs). Switchable defense, people moving, smart ball movement, bumping with bigs, boxing out, paint presence, 3 ball.

Suddenly, boston has no viable frontcourt at all. Tatum stepped up to do a lot of the big-man work alongside Horford for their championship run last season. I do wonder if that's more of what post-achilles Tatum will consist of.

I just pray boston doesn't get blessed with a top pick in next year's draft.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#908 » by Shewasfly » Tue Jul 8, 2025 6:02 pm

Hoops3355 wrote:
Shewasfly wrote:We still need a PG. This team can very easily be pressed/trapped and have zero way of getting into the offense, especially when Herro is the only one that can create his own shot AND he's expected to be the primary handler. That's too much reliance on one player on that side of the ball.

JJJ is not a solution to bringing the ball up the court and starting the offense/creating. Imo, he should not even be starting next year. Jovic is more of a point forward and he is also another floor spacer.

Starting PG/Mitchell
Herro/Powell/Larsson
Jovic/JJJ
Bam/Jovic
Ware/Bam

If Cole 'Anthony comes available I think you jump on that. He's more of a scoring PG, but he is a good enough ball handler to handle a press and to initiate offense. Brogdon can also probably be had for very cheap and is more of a traditional point.

I wish we could have gotten John Collins too. I still think we need more of an actual scoring threat in the front court, even if it's coming off the bench.



Herro gonna be starting at the 1.

It's clear "I think" that's the move after all the off-season action. We gonna see Herro, Norm, Wiggs, Bam, and Ware. If they can flip Terry into someone useful that could become a 1A this team is not as doom and gloom as it should be with someone else taking Herro's spot sooner rather than later as the bigger plan if this fails.


I think you're right unfortunately. It's funny that we spend a lot of time opining about how Bam would benefit from a PG, but Herro would just as much. That's a solid starting lineup though, despite Wiggins and if Ware can take a little bit of a leap coming into his second year.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#909 » by Bishop45 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 6:38 pm

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Good fit for both


I need to go make a bet on Nuggets futures.

To turn MPJ and Dario Saric into Cam Johnson, Bruce Brown and Jonas/Horford is disgusting. Better fit, more depth, more flexibility. A+ moves imo.


I didn't even catch the Bruce Brown news-- righting a wrong, they're cleaning up pretty well. Horford would be, and always is, solid
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Post#910 » by EMC5466 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 6:45 pm

I wonder if the 76ers would want to move off of Paul George.
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Post#911 » by Bishop45 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 6:51 pm

EMC5466 wrote:I wonder if the 76ers would want to move off of Paul George.


Unless they would take Wiggins...
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#912 » by EMC5466 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 6:56 pm

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EMC5466 wrote:I wonder if the 76ers would want to move off of Paul George.


Unless they would take Wiggins...

That’s what I meant. Wiggins for PG.
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Post#913 » by greg4012 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 7:11 pm

EMC5466 wrote:
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EMC5466 wrote:I wonder if the 76ers would want to move off of Paul George.


Unless they would take Wiggins...

That’s what I meant. Wiggins for PG.


Paul George is owed over $150M over the next 3 seasons--where he will be 35, 36 and 37. He just averaged 16-5-4 while shooting 43% from the field.
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Post#914 » by Beenie » Tue Jul 8, 2025 7:18 pm

greg4012 wrote:
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Unless they would take Wiggins...

That’s what I meant. Wiggins for PG.


Paul George is owed over $150M over the next 3 seasons--where he will be 35, 36 and 37. He just averaged 16-5-4 while shooting 43% from the field.


Hypothetically, if Philly offered a protected first and PG for Wiggins and filler, are you stamping it yes?
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Post#915 » by greg4012 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 7:19 pm

Beenie wrote:
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EMC5466 wrote:That’s what I meant. Wiggins for PG.


Paul George is owed over $150M over the next 3 seasons--where he will be 35, 36 and 37. He just averaged 16-5-4 while shooting 43% from the field.


Hypothetically, if Philly offered a protected first and PG for Wiggins and filler, are you stamping it yes?


I'm not. But I'm open to other's thoughts if they have a case for PG being better for the next 3 seasons than he showed last season.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#916 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Jul 8, 2025 7:21 pm

Beenie wrote:
greg4012 wrote:
EMC5466 wrote:That’s what I meant. Wiggins for PG.


Paul George is owed over $150M over the next 3 seasons--where he will be 35, 36 and 37. He just averaged 16-5-4 while shooting 43% from the field.


Hypothetically, if Philly offered a protected first and PG for Wiggins and filler, are you stamping it yes?


Hard no from me on PG and I actually think he bounces back next season. It would have to be multiple 1sts for discussions to even get somewhat serious imo
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#917 » by Beenie » Tue Jul 8, 2025 7:23 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Beenie wrote:
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Paul George is owed over $150M over the next 3 seasons--where he will be 35, 36 and 37. He just averaged 16-5-4 while shooting 43% from the field.


Hypothetically, if Philly offered a protected first and PG for Wiggins and filler, are you stamping it yes?


Hard no from me on PG and I actually think he bounces back next season. It would have to be multiple 1sts for discussions to even get somewhat serious imo


If he bounces back next season, they can always trade him for picks

This is the game Mia ought to be playing right now, IMO.
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Post#920 » by Gert42 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 7:30 pm

I think Wiggins contract situation is what makes trading him for real value difficult. If you are the team getting him you really have to believe in him, but also know that if he balls out you're paying him more money and years since he'll opt out. And if he plays poor he opts in and that $30 million is off of potential FA money for that team.

I tend to agree with the posters that there may be more of a market for Wiggins at the deadline.

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