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Post#781 » by Chi town » Tue Jul 8, 2025 4:22 pm

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Orlando Magic star Paolo Banchero has agreed to a five-year maximum rookie contract extension that could reach $287 million, Mike Miller of LIFT Sports Management tells ESPN.

https://www.espn.com/contributor/shams-charania/ba8616d7c1e37

$57.4M per year.


That’s won’t looks good. It does now because he’s young but I’m not a believer in Banchero Franz
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Post#782 » by CROBulls » Tue Jul 8, 2025 5:09 pm

That's a lot of money for Banchero. But his contract is better when you put it on paper. First year 41M, and first 3 years of contracts are below 48M per year. It only gets to gets to 54M in last year which is 2031 year. If cap is steadily raising as it is now that's not terrible deal. And if Banchero ofcourse improves and becomes superstar. Given his age which is 22 now. It's no brainer to sign him on that deal. Because you basically getting his likely best years during that contract. He could easily be worth 50M in 3 years when he actually earns 50M.
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Post#783 » by DASMACKDOWN » Tue Jul 8, 2025 5:20 pm

CROBulls wrote:That's a lot of money for Banchero. But his contract is better when you put it on paper. First year 41M, and first 3 years of contracts are below 48M per year. It only gets to gets to 54M in last year which is 2031 year. If cap is steadily raising as it is now that's not terrible deal. And if Banchero ofcourse improves and becomes superstar. Given his age which is 22 now. It's no brainer to sign him on that deal. Because you basically getting his likely best years during that contract. He could easily be worth 50M in 3 years when he actually earns 50M.


That just how the league is though. Every contract is basically huge.

Even the contracts that are signed this year, will look small by comparison 3 years from now.

Todays 25-30 is like tomorrows 40-50.

Remember we live in an NBA where Jalen Brown makes 60 mil per
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Post#784 » by burlydee » Tue Jul 8, 2025 5:42 pm

Ayo linked to the Lakers -

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Post#785 » by Jcool0 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 5:45 pm

Chi town wrote:
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Orlando Magic star Paolo Banchero has agreed to a five-year maximum rookie contract extension that could reach $287 million, Mike Miller of LIFT Sports Management tells ESPN.

https://www.espn.com/contributor/shams-charania/ba8616d7c1e37

$57.4M per year.


That’s won’t looks good. It does now because he’s young but I’m not a believer in Banchero Franz


Magic will be contending before the Bulls make the actual playoffs.
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Post#786 » by NecessaryEvil » Tue Jul 8, 2025 5:47 pm

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Post#787 » by TheJordanRule » Tue Jul 8, 2025 6:11 pm

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Let's not just make deals just because we can. How would swapping Ayo for Knetcht improve the product on the floor? Ayo fits the prototype of the ideal combo guard off the bench IMO. He gives you a little scoring, a little facilitating, and some solid defense at his size, 6 ft 5. I want to trade Coby because Coby's fit with Giddey comes across as sketchy, and because Ayo might be a superior fit at a lower cost. We've watched Ayo get as hot as Coby before, and Ayo is a two way player. He's had some seasoning since his second round pick rookie days. Knetcht is a great perimeter scorer with upside, but that two way impact is just not there. Neither does Knetcht have the ability to facilitate with legit court vision.
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Post#788 » by Red Larrivee » Tue Jul 8, 2025 6:21 pm

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Why would the Lakers add picks to Knecht to trade for Ayo?
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Post#789 » by Repeat 3-peat » Tue Jul 8, 2025 6:32 pm

Knecht isn't good.
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Post#790 » by nomorezorro » Tue Jul 8, 2025 6:39 pm

ayo probably isn't going to be on this team after this season. (and hypothetically, if we *did* want him on this team after this season, we could trade him now and just sign him next offseason.)

i don't think knecht is going to be good, but he's something
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Post#791 » by Jcool0 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 6:40 pm

Repeat 3-peat wrote:Knecht isn't good.


PER 36: 17 ppg & 5.2 rebounds on 46/38/76. He might be good.
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Post#792 » by nomorezorro » Tue Jul 8, 2025 6:40 pm

luckily for anyone who wants to keep ayo, there's no way AK trades for a guy whose primary skill is shooting
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Post#793 » by Repeat 3-peat » Tue Jul 8, 2025 6:42 pm

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Repeat 3-peat wrote:Knecht isn't good.


PER 36: 17 ppg & 5.2 rebounds on 46/38/76. He might be good.


Per 36 lol. He got played off the floor because he is a dreadful defender and can only shoot. Ayo is a much better basketball player.
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Re: 2025 Free Agency News/Rumors 

Post#794 » by Jcool0 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 6:46 pm

Repeat 3-peat wrote:
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Repeat 3-peat wrote:Knecht isn't good.


PER 36: 17 ppg & 5.2 rebounds on 46/38/76. He might be good.


Per 36 lol. He got played off the floor because he is a dreadful defender and can only shoot. Ayo is a much better basketball player.


Ayo type players are a dime a dozen. At lest with Knecht he was a rookie playing on a LBJ team where he was never getting consistent minutes. His last start he had 27 points and 8 rebounds. I put it at 5% this trade goes down but it would probably be the best the Bulls could do.
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Post#795 » by DuckIII » Tue Jul 8, 2025 6:55 pm

I want to start by saying I consider Ayo a much better player and prospect than Knecht. Regardless:

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Let's not just make deals just because we can. How would swapping Ayo for Knetcht improve the product on the floor?


Perhaps I will be wrong. But to me the Tre signing ended Ayo's time on the Bulls. Either he or Coby need to be traded and soon, and I don't think AK has the type of creative mind to trade Coby right after he comes off the best run of his career.

So if you start with the assumption Ayo is going to be traded, which I do, then the answer starts to take shape. Specifically, Knecht is a shooter and we could use a pure shooter. Its a specialty need we lack. And if you believe the report we could also get draft assets, then the logic becomes more clear.
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Post#796 » by Red Larrivee » Tue Jul 8, 2025 6:55 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
Repeat 3-peat wrote:Knecht isn't good.


PER 36: 17 ppg & 5.2 rebounds on 46/38/76. He might be good.


Even if he's not good, I don't think he's bad either.

Not understanding why the Lakers would trade a decent player with 3 years of rookie scale control for a decent player who's hitting FA after the season. And they would add picks too?

Ok.
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Post#797 » by Red8911 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 6:58 pm

If the Bulls want to deal Ayo because they don’t want to re sign him then this type of deal is what your going to get for him unless ofcourse he’s included in a multi player deal.

Knecht is probably the best you can get for Ayo. If it’s Knecht vs a second round pick then I definitely prefer Knecht.

At least we’re seeing some rumors lately even though they might not be true lol.
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Post#798 » by nomorezorro » Tue Jul 8, 2025 7:06 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:Not understanding why the Lakers would trade a decent player with 3 years of rookie scale control for a decent player who's hitting FA after the season.


i think the reason it's plausible is because redick doesn't seem to trust knecht at all. there's some logic to them giving up on a non-lotto pick who had an unremarkable rookie year to land a relatively reliable bench guard (who is only a year older than knecht, to boot)

i don't think it's super likely, though. and if a trade did materialize, i think we're a lot more likely to be adding picks than they are. (not because i think that makes the trade more fair, but, yknow, the front office...)
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Post#799 » by kodo » Tue Jul 8, 2025 7:26 pm

Red8911 wrote:If the Bulls want to deal Ayo because they don’t want to re sign him then this type of deal is what your going to get for him unless ofcourse he’s included in a multi player deal.

Knecht is probably the best you can get for Ayo. If it’s Knecht vs a second round pick then I definitely prefer Knecht.

At least we’re seeing some rumors lately even though they might not be true lol.


Agreed it's the Caruso situation. I'm a big believer in Ayo but if you're just going to let him walk for nothing, anything is better.
I was as big a Caruso fan as everyone else, but if you're just going to let him walk in FA you're left with nothing for a great player. I'm sure Cleveland wasn't happy with a 29th pick for Lebron trade with Miami, but it's better than a bag of nothing.

I would have resigned Ayo but I think it's clear the FO went with Tre instead.
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Post#800 » by jnrjr79 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 7:32 pm

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Repeat 3-peat wrote:Knecht isn't good.


PER 36: 17 ppg & 5.2 rebounds on 46/38/76. He might be good.


Even if he's not good, I don't think he's bad either.

Not understanding why the Lakers would trade a decent player with 3 years of rookie scale control for a decent player who's hitting FA after the season. And they would add picks too?

Ok.


If I'm in their shoes, maybe I view him as 1) someone you think gives you a better chance in LBJ's potential final season with the team, and 2) he becomes cap relief if he walks.

Adding picks seems a little nutty, though.

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