god shammgod wrote:mpharris36 wrote:god shammgod wrote:
i did not. the culture is built already.
the full context of the quote was build sustainable winning that produces championships...we have not produced championships
we have sustainable winner though. I will give the FO and Thibs credit for building that.
I am pretty sure he knows the deal. He is here to get to the finals and then let the chips fall where they may. Obviously injuries/luck will certainly play a part. But we all know the deal.
that's all i'm saying. we're not gonna pretend like thibs didn't change the culture and pull this franchise out of the abyss. i wouldn't have fired him but the way we lost to indy is a fireable offense. so brown has to make the finals because he's not even gonna face the same level of competition with all the injuries. 2 of the 3 other teams in the top 4 are not contenders this year. sorry but that's the job you took.
I think everyone knows the expectations of the team and the current outlook of the east. You don't want to put the cart in front of the horse though. You can't be talking finals in the opening press conference and putting bad juju on the team whether that be injury luck ect...nothing what he said in the presser is going to mean much. You just don't want him to sound like an idiot or overwhelmed for the position (which he has had experience) so it was unlikely that he was going to do either.
I honestly think losing it indy was only part of it. Obviously enough players complained... The whole never really running 5-out lineups...really not diving into the Mitch/KAT duo until really the playoffs and not being collaborative with the FO on lineups did him in.
Like he didn't just say he wants to build sustainable winning and that its...it clear he knows the deal in terms of needing to win and probably win it all.
I'm more interested to see the vision he has to fill out the rest of his staff (something I thought thibs never really did a good job of that because he liked full control). And then the different lineup iterations he might have to get this team to the level we all want them to...the opener presser is just for show and make sure someone doesn't say anything dumb.