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Post#841 » by CazOnReal » Tue Jul 8, 2025 11:42 pm

HumbleRen wrote:I think letting go of Ochai for RJ would be a pretty bad mistake.

Cheap 3&D guys are hard to come by but if the FO gets the sense that some team will be willing to pay Ochai in the off-season, I’d get it.

If Ochai was moved over RJ, my assumption would be...

1. The Raptors think they can more easily replace him/refresh their cap sheet via a 1st rounder to replace him i.e. the deals around RJ aren't great and...

2. Ochai's lesser salary makes him easier to trade. Beyond the tax implications, any sort of deal around Agbaji is much easier to match with his...$6 million-ish contract? The exact amount eludes me but with the MLE functioning as a trade exception and other teams having a much easier time taking in his money should they see him as a playoff piece/long-term fit, ergo you'll likely have more suitors and I can easily see a contender or a team that thinks they're a contender (Hawks, Celtics if they somehow are a playoff team, Rockets, Cavaliers, Mavericks...though I think they lack a future 1st until the 2030s) trading a future pick for him (Bucks 2027 1st? I doubt that Pelicans 2026 1st is on the table, certainly not without protections).

3. They think they can get RJ to take a paycut/a sweetheart deal under the new CBA. We'll ignore that no one asked Boucher for a similar Canadian cut or that 2027 is projected to have more cap space to throw around.

4. RJ being bigger/broader makes him a lot easier to play as a 3 or even a smaller 4. Ochai is a good defender but he's not otherworldly and his size is a major limitation - even if he is a much better defender than Barrett is or likely will ever be.

5. We have no idea what Ochai's extension is looking like in terms of the talks or the $$$. Big wild card in all this, of course. But one that's really too early in the offseason to make a call with how little we know about said number.

I personally think RJ is the more likely of the two to go but if the best offers you're getting are Kuzma + stuff or Monk straight up, I can see why Bobby "Cap Master" Webster would view Ochai as the more immediate "get out of the tax free" option.
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Post#842 » by WuTang_OG » Tue Jul 8, 2025 11:44 pm

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Post#843 » by Tor_Raps » Tue Jul 8, 2025 11:45 pm

HumbleRen wrote:I think letting go of Ochai for RJ would be a pretty bad mistake.

Cheap 3&D guys are hard to come by but if the FO gets the sense that some team will be willing to pay Ochai in the off-season, I’d get it.


People who want to flip Ochai to get under the tax are crazy. He has skills of a starting calibre player on a good team, you dont get rid of those type of players unless another team makes it worth your while.

I'm hoping we are getting all these RJ rumours because the front office sees it the same way as well. No one else on the team is ready to start for a good team, which we are hoping to be next year.
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Post#844 » by WuTang_OG » Tue Jul 8, 2025 11:51 pm

Kelly traded again lol

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Post#845 » by LoveMyRaps » Tue Jul 8, 2025 11:52 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Kelly traded again lol

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Post#846 » by navyblue » Tue Jul 8, 2025 11:54 pm

malaki branham was the pick from the thad young trade down
wesley was same draft a few picks after
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Post#847 » by CazOnReal » Tue Jul 8, 2025 11:56 pm

navyblue wrote:malaki branham was the pick from the thad young trade down
wesley was same draft a few picks after

It would have been Nembhard if we kept it, per all the rumors.
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Post#848 » by navyblue » Tue Jul 8, 2025 11:58 pm

CazOnReal wrote:
navyblue wrote:malaki branham was the pick from the thad young trade down
wesley was same draft a few picks after

It would have been Nembhard if we kept it, per all the rumors.

like all the rumors we were going to select Maluach
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Post#849 » by Pointgod » Wed Jul 9, 2025 12:04 am

CazOnReal wrote:
navyblue wrote:malaki branham was the pick from the thad young trade down
wesley was same draft a few picks after

It would have been Nembhard if we kept it, per all the rumors.


Or Kessler considering we needed a Center
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Post#850 » by Zeno » Wed Jul 9, 2025 12:07 am

navyblue wrote:
CazOnReal wrote:
navyblue wrote:malaki branham was the pick from the thad young trade down
wesley was same draft a few picks after

It would have been Nembhard if we kept it, per all the rumors.

like all the rumors we were going to select Maluach

This is getting to the point where I am thinking of retiring from my 25 years on the board, lol. Teams have missed on better players, they have made bad moves. Thad was a bad move. You have alternative paths that obviously would have been way better or only slightly better. Why do we need to keep discussing this?
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Post#851 » by Tor_Raps » Wed Jul 9, 2025 12:08 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Kelly traded again lol

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Its a great trade for the Spurs too. Olynyk fits like a glove offensively with Wemby while Wemby can wipe all mistakes from Olynyk defensively.
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Post#852 » by TimeForChange » Wed Jul 9, 2025 12:14 am

Tor_Raps wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Kelly traded again lol

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Its a great trade for the Spurs too. Olynyk fits like a glove offensively with Wemby while Wemby can wipe all mistakes from Olynyk defensively.

Mamu is better offensively.

Both are terrible defensively.

Spurs should have just kept the younger player.
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Post#853 » by Tor_Raps » Wed Jul 9, 2025 12:17 am

TimeForChange wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
Wizards have done well this offseason.


Its a great trade for the Spurs too. Olynyk fits like a glove offensively with Wemby while Wemby can wipe all mistakes from Olynyk defensively.

Mamu is better offensively.

Both are terrible defensively.

Spurs should have just kept the younger player.


Or maybe the Spurs prefer to have some established veteren players in the rotation.

Let's not pretend like Mamu has shown anything during meaningful minutes in the nba yet, he could easily be a bust.
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Post#854 » by Zeno » Wed Jul 9, 2025 12:24 am

Tor_Raps wrote:
TimeForChange wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
Its a great trade for the Spurs too. Olynyk fits like a glove offensively with Wemby while Wemby can wipe all mistakes from Olynyk defensively.

Mamu is better offensively.

Both are terrible defensively.

Spurs should have just kept the younger player.

Yeah people are getting a little to excited about Mamu. Also there is an advantage to these older players that they are comfortable not playing too. Mamu wants an opportunity to play.
Or maybe the Spurs prefer to have some established veteren players in the rotation.

Let's not pretend like Mamu has shown anything during meaningful minutes in the nba yet, he could easily be a bust.
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Post#855 » by Raptorfan2012 » Wed Jul 9, 2025 12:28 am

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At this point, I would just trade RJ for Demar. Production wise they are pretty similar but we get to duck the tax. Bring Demar home.
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Post#856 » by Zeno » Wed Jul 9, 2025 12:29 am

Has the Val/Saric trade been finalized yet? I am still holding out hope for a three way trade that sends us Monk, Saric and Spurs 2027 1st for RJ. Then we buyout Saric and sign Martin to full contract. Saves 3.3 million.
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Post#857 » by JB7 » Wed Jul 9, 2025 12:34 am

Jokic turned down the extension offered by Denver.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/281313/Nikola-Jokic-Declines-Nuggets-Three-Year-$212M-Extension-Offer

I know there would be more money on the table next year, but also, maybe he might be interested in joining Doncic in LA.
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Post#858 » by ForeverTFC » Wed Jul 9, 2025 12:38 am

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HumbleRen wrote:I think letting go of Ochai for RJ would be a pretty bad mistake.

Cheap 3&D guys are hard to come by but if the FO gets the sense that some team will be willing to pay Ochai in the off-season, I’d get it.


People who want to flip Ochai to get under the tax are crazy. He has skills of a starting calibre player on a good team, you dont get rid of those type of players unless another team makes it worth your while.

I'm hoping we are getting all these RJ rumours because the front office sees it the same way as well. No one else on the team is ready to start for a good team, which we are hoping to be next year.


I agree. Though I do think the money he's expecting will play a role. I forget if it was Lowe or KOC, but one of them said on a pod a while back that guys like him are both valuable and hard to find in the NBA, which could push his price higher than you'd want to pay if you were the Raptors, or at least higher than what fans would expect. So we should be prepared for the "overpaid" threads if we do hold on to him.

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At this point, I would just trade RJ for Demar. Production wise they are pretty similar but we get to duck the tax. Bring Demar home.

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Post#859 » by niQ » Wed Jul 9, 2025 12:41 am

Zeno wrote:Has the Val/Saric trade been finalized yet? I am still holding out hope for a three way trade that sends us Monk, Saric and Spurs 2027 1st for RJ. Then we buyout Saric and sign Martin to full contract. Saves 3.3 million.


Dunno if finalized but sounds like Nuggets intend to keep him.

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Post#860 » by navyblue » Wed Jul 9, 2025 12:43 am

Zeno wrote:Has the Val/Saric trade been finalized yet? I am still holding out hope for a three way trade that sends us Monk, Saric and Spurs 2027 1st for RJ. Then we buyout Saric and sign Martin to full contract. Saves 3.3 million.

Not official yet, anything official gets posted at

https://www.nba.com/players/transactions

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