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Post#261 » by YogurtProducer » Tue Jul 8, 2025 7:06 pm

TheGeneral99 wrote:It's usually common that sophomore NBA players dominate summer league.

Bad performances to me typically are more telling than good ones
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Post#262 » by S.W.A.N » Tue Jul 8, 2025 7:26 pm

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duppyy wrote:So sad that Utah got Bailey, still got a good player from their blatant tanking :(


I mean what's your definition of tanking. We had a much more talented roster and we were basically sitting healthy players for the second half of games or just not playing guys. Jazz were mostly just bad from a roster construct. Maybe Philly tanked the hardest given the talent they had.

One draft can change things for a team:

Ace Bailey and Walter Clayton Jr. are going to be good players. They just have to be patient with Ace because he obviously doesn't know the game well. He hunts for his own shots and misses easy passes, and he ignores defensive assignments.

I really think Bryce Sensabaugh is ready to step up for them. Not sure what the plan is for Cody Williams and Taylor Hendricks but I guess they are depth pieces.

They still will be terrible, but 2026 they add another high end piece they might have something.


My hate for Utah is due to them sitting Kessler while he was healthy and it messed up my fantasy team during playoffs. So I hate them for that and was hoping they wouldnt get a good player in the draft. :evil:


You drafted players from a tanking team?? rookie move :wink:
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Post#263 » by ArthurVandelay » Tue Jul 8, 2025 9:07 pm

duppyy wrote:
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duppyy wrote:So sad that Utah got Bailey, still got a good player from their blatant tanking :(


I mean what's your definition of tanking. We had a much more talented roster and we were basically sitting healthy players for the second half of games or just not playing guys. Jazz were mostly just bad from a roster construct. Maybe Philly tanked the hardest given the talent they had.

One draft can change things for a team:

Ace Bailey and Walter Clayton Jr. are going to be good players. They just have to be patient with Ace because he obviously doesn't know the game well. He hunts for his own shots and misses easy passes, and he ignores defensive assignments.

I really think Bryce Sensabaugh is ready to step up for them. Not sure what the plan is for Cody Williams and Taylor Hendricks but I guess they are depth pieces.

They still will be terrible, but 2026 they add another high end piece they might have something.


My hate for Utah is due to them sitting Kessler while he was healthy and it messed up my fantasy team during playoffs. So I hate them for that and was hoping they wouldnt get a good player in the draft. :evil:


Yeah last year was my last season for fantasy basketball. My love of fantasy basketball was torpedoed with all the draft positioning shenanigans…and I’ve been playing for 20 years
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Post#264 » by Clutch0z24 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 9:34 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:A lot of these kids are immature. Not their fault. Where were we at 18 and 19? Ace for all accounts is a good kid, and prob just got bad advice from his agent. But all these players do that in the draft, it just got amplified with Ace cuz he wanted push his way like 3 spots lol

Chet, Sarr did this too


If social media was around when Kobe got drafted people would of hated on him so bad.....Basically forced his way to Lakers and was very cocky/arrogant as a kid coming from high school to the NBA.....Sometimes the Cockyness/Arrogants + working hard in the gym and a little bit of delusional can take you very very far....Which Ace might just have all of that in him....Which its easy to hate on that until the talent/skill prevail in the end and shuts everyone up.
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Post#265 » by DreamTeam09 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 11:49 pm

ArthurVandelay wrote:
duppyy wrote:
Dalek wrote:
I mean what's your definition of tanking. We had a much more talented roster and we were basically sitting healthy players for the second half of games or just not playing guys. Jazz were mostly just bad from a roster construct. Maybe Philly tanked the hardest given the talent they had.

One draft can change things for a team:

Ace Bailey and Walter Clayton Jr. are going to be good players. They just have to be patient with Ace because he obviously doesn't know the game well. He hunts for his own shots and misses easy passes, and he ignores defensive assignments.

I really think Bryce Sensabaugh is ready to step up for them. Not sure what the plan is for Cody Williams and Taylor Hendricks but I guess they are depth pieces.

They still will be terrible, but 2026 they add another high end piece they might have something.


My hate for Utah is due to them sitting Kessler while he was healthy and it messed up my fantasy team during playoffs. So I hate them for that and was hoping they wouldnt get a good player in the draft. :evil:


Yeah last year was my last season for fantasy basketball. My love of fantasy basketball was torpedoed with all the draft positioning shenanigans…and I’ve been playing for 20 years


Rule #1 is to never draft from tanking teams, just wait & pick-up some random scrub or rookie who's going off.
I stay away from injury prone guys too lol lol

With all that said, it's been a decade & I haven't won one of my fantasy leagues yet either lol

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Post#266 » by SpezNc » Wed Jul 9, 2025 1:25 am

I saw the Last Vegas court is back

I was wondering if Keith Pelley would veto that extension in a Masai less world .

I am happy to see the court is backkkk

I like that we are the only team to do that (probably thanks to our Tampa tank investment)

We probably invest in the court and why not reuse the asset every year while for the other team the benefits of summer league probably is not enough to invest in the mobile court . + the addition cost of renting the space in the hotel.

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Post#267 » by WuTang_OG » Wed Jul 9, 2025 1:26 am

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Post#268 » by ArthurVandelay » Wed Jul 9, 2025 1:29 am

DreamTeam09 wrote:
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duppyy wrote:
My hate for Utah is due to them sitting Kessler while he was healthy and it messed up my fantasy team during playoffs. So I hate them for that and was hoping they wouldnt get a good player in the draft. :evil:


Yeah last year was my last season for fantasy basketball. My love of fantasy basketball was torpedoed with all the draft positioning shenanigans…and I’ve been playing for 20 years


Rule #1 is to never draft from tanking teams, just wait & pick-up some random scrub or rookie who's going off.
I stay away from injury prone guys too lol lol

With all that said, it's been a decade & I haven't won one of my fantasy leagues yet either lol

I got like 3 silvers



I’m actually really good. 3 money leagues. 2 keeper cat leagues and a redraft points league. I always come out in the black.

The number of injuries, resting, and tanking as a whole make it pretty much impossible to play. Tanking teams sit healthy guys and contenders sit healthy guys down the stretch.
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Post#269 » by WuTang_OG » Wed Jul 9, 2025 1:32 am

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Post#270 » by deeps6x » Wed Jul 9, 2025 1:57 am

mtcan wrote:
Kingsway_fan wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:

and for this season, they've already lost Clarkson, Sexton and Collins. If anything happens to Markanen, it's going to be hard for them to get to 15 wins. Tanking for them is just playing their normal rotation.


Yep. Perennial tankers... Raptor Fans and Ownership would not tolerate that...

Have we not learned from the past 2 drafts that no matter how many losses you accrue, that it never guarantees draft success? They claim it isn't rigged but when 2 teams that lost in the play-in end up getting #1 picks 2 years in a row...is that not the lottery gods (who may well be Adam Silver) are discouraging tanking.

TWO were losing their **** about going from a 14% chance at a #1 pick to 12.5% this past season...and then the team with 1.34% chance at the #1 pick gets it...how does it feel to know that none of that ever mattered? They were being all condescending telling others that they don't understand math. lololol...

Jazz lucked out that Ace fell to them but for all the losing and suffering their fanbase has endured...dropping to 5th had to be a wake up call.


Yeah, but Dallas gifted Luka to the #1 TV market in the country for peanuts (knowing they'd get rewarded for doing so?).

Atlanta, on the other hand, yeah, that was probably the lottery gods (Silver?) trying to discourage tanking.
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Re: Summer League Thread 

Post#271 » by WuTang_OG » Wed Jul 9, 2025 2:36 am

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Post#272 » by Son Goku 25 » Wed Jul 9, 2025 2:40 am

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Post#273 » by navyblue » Wed Jul 9, 2025 2:45 am

deeps6x wrote:
mtcan wrote:
Kingsway_fan wrote:
Yep. Perennial tankers... Raptor Fans and Ownership would not tolerate that...

Have we not learned from the past 2 drafts that no matter how many losses you accrue, that it never guarantees draft success? They claim it isn't rigged but when 2 teams that lost in the play-in end up getting #1 picks 2 years in a row...is that not the lottery gods (who may well be Adam Silver) are discouraging tanking.

TWO were losing their **** about going from a 14% chance at a #1 pick to 12.5% this past season...and then the team with 1.34% chance at the #1 pick gets it...how does it feel to know that none of that ever mattered? They were being all condescending telling others that they don't understand math. lololol...

Jazz lucked out that Ace fell to them but for all the losing and suffering their fanbase has endured...dropping to 5th had to be a wake up call.


Yeah, but Dallas gifted Luka to the #1 TV market in the country for peanuts (knowing they'd get rewarded for doing so?).

Atlanta, on the other hand, yeah, that was probably the lottery gods (Silver?) trying to discourage tanking.

Did Dallas/NBA know that Kyrie would blow out his ACL, did they know they would only win 1 of 2 play in games.
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Post#274 » by RaptorPride » Wed Jul 9, 2025 3:05 am

deeps6x wrote:
mtcan wrote:
Kingsway_fan wrote:
Yep. Perennial tankers... Raptor Fans and Ownership would not tolerate that...

Have we not learned from the past 2 drafts that no matter how many losses you accrue, that it never guarantees draft success? They claim it isn't rigged but when 2 teams that lost in the play-in end up getting #1 picks 2 years in a row...is that not the lottery gods (who may well be Adam Silver) are discouraging tanking.

TWO were losing their **** about going from a 14% chance at a #1 pick to 12.5% this past season...and then the team with 1.34% chance at the #1 pick gets it...how does it feel to know that none of that ever mattered? They were being all condescending telling others that they don't understand math. lololol...

Jazz lucked out that Ace fell to them but for all the losing and suffering their fanbase has endured...dropping to 5th had to be a wake up call.


Yeah, but Dallas gifted Luka to the #1 TV market in the country for peanuts (knowing they'd get rewarded for doing so?).

Atlanta, on the other hand, yeah, that was probably the lottery gods (Silver?) trying to discourage tanking.

Or its just basic probability or the conspiracy is true. Like what are the odds of LeBron to Cleveland and Rose to the Bulls.

For every 1 tanking team that succeeds there are 10 failures who get stuck in tanking hell.
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Post#275 » by Syd-TK3 » Wed Jul 9, 2025 3:11 am

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I'll admit i haven't physically seen any game yet but this is horrible from a number perspective
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Post#276 » by Tripod » Wed Jul 9, 2025 3:15 am

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Post#277 » by Psubs » Wed Jul 9, 2025 3:42 am

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I'll admit i haven't physically seen any game yet but this is horrible from a number perspective


So the numbers backed up the eye test that he can't get past decent defenders.

I mentioned that he might be the next Tyler Kolek and was dismissed.
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Post#278 » by bballsparkin » Wed Jul 9, 2025 4:06 am

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:eek2: That's one of the worst stat lines I've ever seen.
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Post#279 » by bballsparkin » Wed Jul 9, 2025 4:14 am

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Post#280 » by YogurtProducer » Wed Jul 9, 2025 4:30 am

ArthurVandelay wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:
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Yeah last year was my last season for fantasy basketball. My love of fantasy basketball was torpedoed with all the draft positioning shenanigans…and I’ve been playing for 20 years


Rule #1 is to never draft from tanking teams, just wait & pick-up some random scrub or rookie who's going off.
I stay away from injury prone guys too lol lol

With all that said, it's been a decade & I haven't won one of my fantasy leagues yet either lol

I got like 3 silvers



I’m actually really good. 3 money leagues. 2 keeper cat leagues and a redraft points league. I always come out in the black.

The number of injuries, resting, and tanking as a whole make it pretty much impossible to play. Tanking teams sit healthy guys and contenders sit healthy guys down the stretch.

Honestly is why Sleeper fantasy basketball is superior. You only get 1 game a week from your starters so it eliminates the tanking BS of the end of the season.
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