TheGeneral99 wrote:It's usually common that sophomore NBA players dominate summer league.
Bad performances to me typically are more telling than good ones
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TheGeneral99 wrote:It's usually common that sophomore NBA players dominate summer league.
- Raptors RealGM Forum re: Masai Ujiri - June 2023What an absolute failure and disaster this franchise is, ran by one of the most incompetent front offices in the league.
duppyy wrote:Dalek wrote:duppyy wrote:So sad that Utah got Bailey, still got a good player from their blatant tanking
I mean what's your definition of tanking. We had a much more talented roster and we were basically sitting healthy players for the second half of games or just not playing guys. Jazz were mostly just bad from a roster construct. Maybe Philly tanked the hardest given the talent they had.
One draft can change things for a team:
Ace Bailey and Walter Clayton Jr. are going to be good players. They just have to be patient with Ace because he obviously doesn't know the game well. He hunts for his own shots and misses easy passes, and he ignores defensive assignments.
I really think Bryce Sensabaugh is ready to step up for them. Not sure what the plan is for Cody Williams and Taylor Hendricks but I guess they are depth pieces.
They still will be terrible, but 2026 they add another high end piece they might have something.
My hate for Utah is due to them sitting Kessler while he was healthy and it messed up my fantasy team during playoffs. So I hate them for that and was hoping they wouldnt get a good player in the draft.
duppyy wrote:Dalek wrote:duppyy wrote:So sad that Utah got Bailey, still got a good player from their blatant tanking
I mean what's your definition of tanking. We had a much more talented roster and we were basically sitting healthy players for the second half of games or just not playing guys. Jazz were mostly just bad from a roster construct. Maybe Philly tanked the hardest given the talent they had.
One draft can change things for a team:
Ace Bailey and Walter Clayton Jr. are going to be good players. They just have to be patient with Ace because he obviously doesn't know the game well. He hunts for his own shots and misses easy passes, and he ignores defensive assignments.
I really think Bryce Sensabaugh is ready to step up for them. Not sure what the plan is for Cody Williams and Taylor Hendricks but I guess they are depth pieces.
They still will be terrible, but 2026 they add another high end piece they might have something.
My hate for Utah is due to them sitting Kessler while he was healthy and it messed up my fantasy team during playoffs. So I hate them for that and was hoping they wouldnt get a good player in the draft.
WuTang_OG wrote:A lot of these kids are immature. Not their fault. Where were we at 18 and 19? Ace for all accounts is a good kid, and prob just got bad advice from his agent. But all these players do that in the draft, it just got amplified with Ace cuz he wanted push his way like 3 spots lol
Chet, Sarr did this too
ArthurVandelay wrote:duppyy wrote:Dalek wrote:
I mean what's your definition of tanking. We had a much more talented roster and we were basically sitting healthy players for the second half of games or just not playing guys. Jazz were mostly just bad from a roster construct. Maybe Philly tanked the hardest given the talent they had.
One draft can change things for a team:
Ace Bailey and Walter Clayton Jr. are going to be good players. They just have to be patient with Ace because he obviously doesn't know the game well. He hunts for his own shots and misses easy passes, and he ignores defensive assignments.
I really think Bryce Sensabaugh is ready to step up for them. Not sure what the plan is for Cody Williams and Taylor Hendricks but I guess they are depth pieces.
They still will be terrible, but 2026 they add another high end piece they might have something.
My hate for Utah is due to them sitting Kessler while he was healthy and it messed up my fantasy team during playoffs. So I hate them for that and was hoping they wouldnt get a good player in the draft.
Yeah last year was my last season for fantasy basketball. My love of fantasy basketball was torpedoed with all the draft positioning shenanigans…and I’ve been playing for 20 years
DreamTeam09 wrote:ArthurVandelay wrote:duppyy wrote:
My hate for Utah is due to them sitting Kessler while he was healthy and it messed up my fantasy team during playoffs. So I hate them for that and was hoping they wouldnt get a good player in the draft.
Yeah last year was my last season for fantasy basketball. My love of fantasy basketball was torpedoed with all the draft positioning shenanigans…and I’ve been playing for 20 years
Rule #1 is to never draft from tanking teams, just wait & pick-up some random scrub or rookie who's going off.
I stay away from injury prone guys too lol lol
With all that said, it's been a decade & I haven't won one of my fantasy leagues yet either lol
I got like 3 silvers
mtcan wrote:Kingsway_fan wrote:OakleyDokely wrote:
and for this season, they've already lost Clarkson, Sexton and Collins. If anything happens to Markanen, it's going to be hard for them to get to 15 wins. Tanking for them is just playing their normal rotation.
Yep. Perennial tankers... Raptor Fans and Ownership would not tolerate that...
Have we not learned from the past 2 drafts that no matter how many losses you accrue, that it never guarantees draft success? They claim it isn't rigged but when 2 teams that lost in the play-in end up getting #1 picks 2 years in a row...is that not the lottery gods (who may well be Adam Silver) are discouraging tanking.
TWO were losing their **** about going from a 14% chance at a #1 pick to 12.5% this past season...and then the team with 1.34% chance at the #1 pick gets it...how does it feel to know that none of that ever mattered? They were being all condescending telling others that they don't understand math. lololol...
Jazz lucked out that Ace fell to them but for all the losing and suffering their fanbase has endured...dropping to 5th had to be a wake up call.
deeps6x wrote:mtcan wrote:Kingsway_fan wrote:
Yep. Perennial tankers... Raptor Fans and Ownership would not tolerate that...
Have we not learned from the past 2 drafts that no matter how many losses you accrue, that it never guarantees draft success? They claim it isn't rigged but when 2 teams that lost in the play-in end up getting #1 picks 2 years in a row...is that not the lottery gods (who may well be Adam Silver) are discouraging tanking.
TWO were losing their **** about going from a 14% chance at a #1 pick to 12.5% this past season...and then the team with 1.34% chance at the #1 pick gets it...how does it feel to know that none of that ever mattered? They were being all condescending telling others that they don't understand math. lololol...
Jazz lucked out that Ace fell to them but for all the losing and suffering their fanbase has endured...dropping to 5th had to be a wake up call.
Yeah, but Dallas gifted Luka to the #1 TV market in the country for peanuts (knowing they'd get rewarded for doing so?).
Atlanta, on the other hand, yeah, that was probably the lottery gods (Silver?) trying to discourage tanking.
deeps6x wrote:mtcan wrote:Kingsway_fan wrote:
Yep. Perennial tankers... Raptor Fans and Ownership would not tolerate that...
Have we not learned from the past 2 drafts that no matter how many losses you accrue, that it never guarantees draft success? They claim it isn't rigged but when 2 teams that lost in the play-in end up getting #1 picks 2 years in a row...is that not the lottery gods (who may well be Adam Silver) are discouraging tanking.
TWO were losing their **** about going from a 14% chance at a #1 pick to 12.5% this past season...and then the team with 1.34% chance at the #1 pick gets it...how does it feel to know that none of that ever mattered? They were being all condescending telling others that they don't understand math. lololol...
Jazz lucked out that Ace fell to them but for all the losing and suffering their fanbase has endured...dropping to 5th had to be a wake up call.
Yeah, but Dallas gifted Luka to the #1 TV market in the country for peanuts (knowing they'd get rewarded for doing so?).
Atlanta, on the other hand, yeah, that was probably the lottery gods (Silver?) trying to discourage tanking.
WuTang_OG wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote: I'll admit i haven't physically seen any game yet but this is horrible from a number perspective
Syd-TK3 wrote: I'll admit i haven't physically seen any game yet but this is horrible from a number perspective
ArthurVandelay wrote:DreamTeam09 wrote:ArthurVandelay wrote:
Yeah last year was my last season for fantasy basketball. My love of fantasy basketball was torpedoed with all the draft positioning shenanigans…and I’ve been playing for 20 years
Rule #1 is to never draft from tanking teams, just wait & pick-up some random scrub or rookie who's going off.
I stay away from injury prone guys too lol lol
With all that said, it's been a decade & I haven't won one of my fantasy leagues yet either lol
I got like 3 silvers
I’m actually really good. 3 money leagues. 2 keeper cat leagues and a redraft points league. I always come out in the black.
The number of injuries, resting, and tanking as a whole make it pretty much impossible to play. Tanking teams sit healthy guys and contenders sit healthy guys down the stretch.
- Raptors RealGM Forum re: Masai Ujiri - June 2023What an absolute failure and disaster this franchise is, ran by one of the most incompetent front offices in the league.