Nikola Jokic has informed the Nuggets he won't sign a contract extension this offseason

[mademan]

Nobody turning down the max they can make. Only way Jokic ends up on another team is if he's traded after getting his payday

[mademan]

The extra money people are talking about is just the extra year that gets tacked on if he signs next year. It's not like it's objectively a better money move - there's a real chance he could get hurt this year, regress, etc and Denver could not offer the extension next year.

My read is this is more about him keeping his options open on what team he wants to play for once his contract is up. Not sold on it 100% being the Lakers, but I think Jokic wants to see how this season goes, and then make a decision on if he needs to move to get another ring.

KD tore his achilles in his early thirties and still got a max contract. There's no worry on Jokic's end. Short of a true cataclysm, Denver is giving him whatever he wants next summer

For him to leave the Nuggets to sign with anyone else would be him leaving a truly significant amount of money on the table. I dont think anyone is doing that in the NBA

[Mamba81p]

Can he make more later?

$80M more if extend next season

Can some ELI5? Is the $80m just because of the extra year or is there more money per year? If it’s the former, I don't get it. He is risking a guarantee of 3 more years by not signing now for an extra guaranteed year at the back end?

It is the former. Certainly a gamble for jokic but something that we have seen Before as far as I can remember. Technically he could gamble again next offseason to get 1 more year, but that is unusual in the current climate with the salary cap rising so much.
If he doesn’t sign next offseason nuggets should be alarmed imo.

[LAvision]

Heres where the real rigging begins.

[BigGargamel]

Not worried whatsoever. He'll be paid as much as possible when it's time. He's not going anywhere. If this continues to put a little pressure on the Denver FO though, I'm all for it.

Lakers fans are hilarious though. Keep the dream alive, fellas.

[doogie_hauser]

LMAO I called this months ago

Jokic is out. He's gonna join Luka in LA. Pay attention to the signs people. Denver had a great off-season and he still turned down the contract.

Luka/Jokic get ready for it. Gonna be hilarious to see the Jokic fanboys have to root for the Lakers.

It's actually far more likely he will retire and return to Europe in 2 years. He said in an interview a few years ago he would return to Europe by the time he is 35.

[doogie_hauser]

Not worried whatsoever. He'll be paid as much as possible when it's time. He's not going anywhere. If this continues to put a little pressure on the Denver FO though, I'm all for it.

Lakers fans are hilarious though. Keep the dream alive, fellas.

This thread is a textbook example of why everyone hates Lakers fans and their arrogant and delusional fanbase.

[Sofia]

Jokic is basically admitting he needs better teammates to win. He's not that guy.

Again if you are going to troll be intelligent about it. I mean... Terrible and it only makes you look less intelligent. Be better bro

Hey buddy long time no speak. You doing ok buddy?

Did you reply from the wrong account or something?

[Ryoga Hibiki]

This thread will make you dumber, don't read it!

[AleksandarN]

LMAO I called this months ago

Jokic is out. He's gonna join Luka in LA. Pay attention to the signs people. Denver had a great off-season and he still turned down the contract.

Luka/Jokic get ready for it. Gonna be hilarious to see the Jokic fanboys have to root for the Lakers.

Lol I knew you going to post. It is like people lack reading comprehension. Either that or too eager to troll. I knew when I started this thread it will attract all of low level trolls. You know what else will happen Luka will turn down his extension too. Because news flash you make more money waiting. Especially Luka.

Speaking of low level trolls. Luka does not make more turning down the extension. He can potentially make more if he will sign a 3 year extension instead of a 4 year.
You keep calling out everyone who missed the reason why jokic turned down the extension. You should follow your own damn memo

Luka can only make 30 percent of the cap. So if Luka waits he can sign a bigger contract at 35 percent of the cap. My point is Luka will not sign a long term extension at 30 percent of the cap. When he can wait till he qualifies for the 35 percent super max. No way he signs for a 3 or 4 year extension

[Mamba81p]

Lol I knew you going to post. It is like people lack reading comprehension. Either that or too eager to troll. I knew when I started this thread it will attract all of low level trolls. You know what else will happen Luka will turn down his extension too. Because news flash you make more money waiting. Especially Luka.

Speaking of low level trolls. Luka does not make more turning down the extension. He can potentially make more if he will sign a 3 year extension instead of a 4 year.
You keep calling out everyone who missed the reason why jokic turned down the extension. You should follow your own damn memo

Luka can only make 30 percent of the cap. So if Luka waits he can sign a bigger contract at 35 percent of the cap. Thanks for the advise but you are wrong. So before you post maybe you should double check. Or else you might look bad

You keep embarasing yourself. You can get 35% of the cap when you have 10+ years in NBA. Luka was drafted in 2018, hence the 3 year extension that I mentioned.

[AleksandarN]

Speaking of low level trolls. Luka does not make more turning down the extension. He can potentially make more if he will sign a 3 year extension instead of a 4 year.
You keep calling out everyone who missed the reason why jokic turned down the extension. You should follow your own damn memo

Luka can only make 30 percent of the cap. So if Luka waits he can sign a bigger contract at 35 percent of the cap. Thanks for the advise but you are wrong. So before you post maybe you should double check. Or else you might look bad

You keep embarasing yourself. You can get 35% of the cap when you have 10+ years in NBA. Luka was drafted in 2018, hence the 3 year extension that I mentioned.

certainly won’t sign a 3 yr contract extension. He still has a year left on his deal.

[Mamba81p]

Luka can only make 30 percent of the cap. So if Luka waits he can sign a bigger contract at 35 percent of the cap. Thanks for the advise but you are wrong. So before you post maybe you should double check. Or else you might look bad

You keep embarasing yourself. You can get 35% of the cap when you have 10+ years in NBA. Luka was drafted in 2018, hence the 3 year extension that I mentioned.

certainly won’t sign a 3 yr contract extension. He still has a year left on his deal.

If he doesn't, then that means he is not sure about the Lakers, but it has nothing to do with maximizing his contract, which was your initial (false) claim, that you doubled down later.

[AleksandarN]

Speaking of low level trolls. Luka does not make more turning down the extension. He can potentially make more if he will sign a 3 year extension instead of a 4 year.
You keep calling out everyone who missed the reason why jokic turned down the extension. You should follow your own damn memo

Luka can only make 30 percent of the cap. So if Luka waits he can sign a bigger contract at 35 percent of the cap. Thanks for the advise but you are wrong. So before you post maybe you should double check. Or else you might look bad

You keep embarasing yourself. You can get 35% of the cap when you have 10+ years in NBA. Luka was drafted in 2018, hence the 3 year extension that I mentioned.

Now you could argue he declines his player option next year and sign a 2 plus year deal with the Lakers . But waiting an extra year when the cap goes up roughly 10 percent per year he could play out his option and sign a one plus one contract the following year at higher amount per year. Which is what I said the longer he waits the more he can make per year. Same as Jokic on the waiting part. Not the 35 percent cent which Jokic already has

[AleksandarN]

You keep embarasing yourself. You can get 35% of the cap when you have 10+ years in NBA. Luka was drafted in 2018, hence the 3 year extension that I mentioned.

certainly won’t sign a 3 yr contract extension. He still has a year left on his deal.

If he doesn't, then that means he is not sure about the Lakers, but it has nothing to do with maximizing his contract, which was your initial (false) claim, that you doubled down later.

And before you post yes I read the athletic’s piece on Monday that John wrote about.

[Mamba81p]

Luka can only make 30 percent of the cap. So if Luka waits he can sign a bigger contract at 35 percent of the cap. Thanks for the advise but you are wrong. So before you post maybe you should double check. Or else you might look bad

You keep embarasing yourself. You can get 35% of the cap when you have 10+ years in NBA. Luka was drafted in 2018, hence the 3 year extension that I mentioned.

Now you could argue he declines his player option next year and sign a 2 plus year deal with the Lakers . But waiting an extra year when the cap goes up roughly 10 percent per year he could play out his option and sign a one plus one contract the following year at higher amount per year

You are wrong again. It doesn't matter how much the cap goes up, the maximum remains the same, and the player that gets the extension gets the same money.
Whether Luka signs a 3 year extension in August/September or a new 4 year contract (both with player option for the last year) next year, he gets the exact same money until he finally signs his 35% max contract.

[Mavrelous]

Jokic makes more than 35% of the cap, he loses money by declining his PO, under current cap projection, he's likely keeping it.

[AleksandarN]

You keep embarasing yourself. You can get 35% of the cap when you have 10+ years in NBA. Luka was drafted in 2018, hence the 3 year extension that I mentioned.

Now you could argue he declines his player option next year and sign a 2 plus year deal with the Lakers . But waiting an extra year when the cap goes up roughly 10 percent per year he could play out his option and sign a one plus one contract the following year at higher amount per year

You are wrong again. It doesn't matter how much the cap goes up, the maximum remains the same, and the player that gets the extension gets the same money. Hilariously, contrary to what you are saying cap going up helps (max)players with extensions. With a flat cap it would make sense to wait and sign a new contract.
Whether Luka signs a 3 year extension in August/September or a new 4 year contract (both with player option for the last year) next year, he gets the exact same money until he finally signs his 35% max contract.

The percentage of the cap is same at 30 percent for Luka. But when the cap goes up the contract also goes up because it is a percentage of the cap when signed. So if he plays out his player option instead of declining it he will make more money the following year

[AleksandarN]

Now you could argue he declines his player option next year and sign a 2 plus year deal with the Lakers . But waiting an extra year when the cap goes up roughly 10 percent per year he could play out his option and sign a one plus one contract the following year at higher amount per year

You are wrong again. It doesn't matter how much the cap goes up, the maximum remains the same, and the player that gets the extension gets the same money. Hilariously, contrary to what you are saying cap going up helps (max)players with extensions. With a flat cap it would make sense to wait and sign a new contract.
Whether Luka signs a 3 year extension in August/September or a new 4 year contract (both with player option for the last year) next year, he gets the exact same money until he finally signs his 35% max contract.

The percentage of the cap is same at 30 percent for Luka. But when the cap goes up the contract also goes up because it is a percentage of the cap when signed. So if he plays out his player option instead of declining it he will make more money the following year

Follow up when I says signed I mean when the deal kicks in

[Mamba81p]

Now you could argue he declines his player option next year and sign a 2 plus year deal with the Lakers . But waiting an extra year when the cap goes up roughly 10 percent per year he could play out his option and sign a one plus one contract the following year at higher amount per year

You are wrong again. It doesn't matter how much the cap goes up, the maximum remains the same, and the player that gets the extension gets the same money. Hilariously, contrary to what you are saying cap going up helps (max)players with extensions. With a flat cap it would make sense to wait and sign a new contract.
Whether Luka signs a 3 year extension in August/September or a new 4 year contract (both with player option for the last year) next year, he gets the exact same money until he finally signs his 35% max contract.

The percentage of the cap is same at 30 percent for Luka. But when the cap goes up the contract also goes up because it is a percentage of the cap when signed. So if he plays out his player option instead of declining it he will make more money following year

I will say one more time, maybe you will understand this time:
When you sign an extension you get either 120% of your previous salary, or the maximum you are eligible if you signed a new contract which in Luka's case is still 30% of whatever the cap is next year. That is why for max players is a no brainer to sign the extension that 30% of the cap is less than 120% of his previous salary. Whether he signs an extension now, or a new contract next year, his salary in 2026-27 it will be 30% of the cap.

For players with lower salaries like Mikal Bridges and Mitch Robinson it makes sense to wait(assuming they can get more money), because the first year of the extension is smaller than 30% of the cap. In that case the first year of the extension would be 120% of the previous salary.