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Re: Official Build a winner & FA: Update- Ayton signs 

Post#281 » by tamaraw08 » Mon Jul 7, 2025 6:20 pm

stan francisco wrote:Marcus Smart if waived is a no-brainer. Perfect fit.


I don't know about being a perfect fit.
Marcus Smart is a below average 3pt shooter at 32% career from 3, and therefore be a liability on offense.
Vando was the Lakers best defender and JJ only used him for 12 mins/game vs Minnie.
Kris Dunn was the Clippers best defender and Lue was forced to limit his mins to 22 mins.
OKC pretty much gave up on Giddey because of his inability to hit open 3's.
Lakers also had a decent defender in Goodwin and yet barely played in the playoffs.
Now I am really hoping and praying that Rob can somehow trade for Royce O'Neal. The guy is a pretty good defender who has a career 38.5 3pt%.
Hopefully at the same time acquire Nick Richards as their actual back up Center.
Grayson Allen is actually a better shooter but I am not sure if he is a good enough defender.
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Re: Official Build a winner & FA: Update- Riley nuts, Beal buyout 

Post#282 » by SlimShady83 » Mon Jul 7, 2025 7:13 pm

A 3 team trade. Heat, Clippers, Utah and Kevin Love, Kyle Anderson and a 2027 Clippers second-round pick to the Jazz
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I bet you all Utah will end up trading Lauri and Kessler next. They want a clean slate no doubt.

Surely we could of offered better then Love, Kyle and SRP for Collins? LMAO.
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Re: Official Build a winner & FA: Update- Riley nuts, Beal buyout 

Post#283 » by Danny Darko » Mon Jul 7, 2025 8:58 pm

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And for those concerned he got a small overpay, don't forget he shares an agent with Luka that's the price of doing business
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Re: Official Build a winner & FA: Update- Ayton signs 

Post#284 » by stan francisco » Mon Jul 7, 2025 11:21 pm

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stan francisco wrote:Marcus Smart if waived is a no-brainer. Perfect fit.


I don't know about being a perfect fit.
Marcus Smart is a below average 3pt shooter at 32% career from 3, and therefore be a liability on offense.
Vando was the Lakers best defender and JJ only used him for 12 mins/game vs Minnie.
Kris Dunn was the Clippers best defender and Lue was forced to limit his mins to 22 mins.
OKC pretty much gave up on Giddey because of his inability to hit open 3's.
Lakers also had a decent defender in Goodwin and yet barely played in the playoffs.
Now I am really hoping and praying that Rob can somehow trade for Royce O'Neal. The guy is a pretty good defender who has a career 38.5 3pt%.
Hopefully at the same time acquire Nick Richards as their actual back up Center.
Grayson Allen is actually a better shooter but I am not sure if he is a good enough defender.


Smart shot 39.5% in DC last year, I heard.

He’s still an elite defender. That’s what we need him for — to cover for Luka’s half-assed defense. And for when Reaves is too small and boney to be useful.

I’d love Royce O’Neal here. Quentin Grimes, Dyson Daniels, DeAnthony Melton are also good options. Powell, too. And Nesmith and Nemhart. And Hart and Caruso.

We need a defensive dawg with a shot.

I think we should trade a combo of Rui, Klieber, Knecht and Vando for a quality POA defender and a second string C. Four or three players for two, get lower under apron 1. Then sign Bazely from summer league, who plays with enough desperation. Leave one spot open and some $ headroom for Giannis for when he bails. ;-)

We have enough offense as is. Not enough defense to win anything.
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Re: Official Build a winner & FA: Update- Riley nuts, Beal buyout 

Post#285 » by SlimShady83 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 12:11 am

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And for those concerned he got a small overpay, don't forget he shares an agent with Luka that's the price of doing business


So no longer have a NTC? I don't think Lakers will trade him anyway, he loves it in LA and on a small contract + a center lols, unless Utah express's interest/Kessler :lol:

I'm expecting Utah to trade both Kessler/Lauri soon, if they don't go to Lakers then any team but Bos.
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Re: Official Build a winner & FA: Update- Ayton signs 

Post#286 » by tamaraw08 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 2:16 pm

stan francisco wrote:
tamaraw08 wrote:
stan francisco wrote:Marcus Smart if waived is a no-brainer. Perfect fit.


I don't know about being a perfect fit.
Marcus Smart is a below average 3pt shooter at 32% career from 3, and therefore be a liability on offense.
Vando was the Lakers best defender and JJ only used him for 12 mins/game vs Minnie.
Kris Dunn was the Clippers best defender and Lue was forced to limit his mins to 22 mins.
OKC pretty much gave up on Giddey because of his inability to hit open 3's.
Lakers also had a decent defender in Goodwin and yet barely played in the playoffs.
Now I am really hoping and praying that Rob can somehow trade for Royce O'Neal. The guy is a pretty good defender who has a career 38.5 3pt%.
Hopefully at the same time acquire Nick Richards as their actual back up Center.
Grayson Allen is actually a better shooter but I am not sure if he is a good enough defender.


Smart shot 39.5% in DC last year, I heard.

He’s still an elite defender. That’s what we need him for — to cover for Luka’s half-assed defense. And for when Reaves is too small and boney to be useful.

I’d love Royce O’Neal here. Quentin Grimes, Dyson Daniels, DeAnthony Melton are also good options. Powell, too. And Nesmith and Nemhart. And Hart and Caruso.

We need a defensive dawg with a shot.

I think we should trade a combo of Rui, Klieber, Knecht and Vando for a quality POA defender and a second string C. Four or three players for two, get lower under apron 1. Then sign Bazely from summer league, who plays with enough desperation. Leave one spot open and some $ headroom for Giannis for when he bails. ;-)

We have enough offense as is. Not enough defense to win anything.

Try to avoid basing 3pt% based on last season because it can get really fluky like what happened so MANY times before.
I remember Pelinka proudly stated the fact that a good defender like Kent Bazemore shot 40% from 3 in Golden State. Then boom, shot miserably overall for the Lakers. He was so bad that he hasn't played in the league after the Lakers stint. :nonono:
Reggie Bullock shot great before the Lakers got him at 39%, 34% with the Lakers. :banghead:
Mo Bamba shot 40% in Orlando, then was awful with the Lakers at 31%.
Toscano-Anderson with 32% in GSW, shot 18% in LA.
I heard Grimes is looking for a 20 Mil/year contract and Daniels is also a bad shooter and probably would rot in JJ's bench.
Look, most good defenders who can hit open 3's are already under really good contract because most teams really value them a lot.
Josh Hart, Caruso, DFS, PJ Washington, Derrick White etc etc are getting paid by their teams and are unavailable.
You can check sites like ESPN, bbref etc if available players are indeed good enough shooters.
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Re: Official Build a winner & FA: Update- Ayton signs 

Post#287 » by stan francisco » Wed Jul 9, 2025 12:18 am

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stan francisco wrote:
tamaraw08 wrote:
I don't know about being a perfect fit.
Marcus Smart is a below average 3pt shooter at 32% career from 3, and therefore be a liability on offense.
Vando was the Lakers best defender and JJ only used him for 12 mins/game vs Minnie.
Kris Dunn was the Clippers best defender and Lue was forced to limit his mins to 22 mins.
OKC pretty much gave up on Giddey because of his inability to hit open 3's.
Lakers also had a decent defender in Goodwin and yet barely played in the playoffs.
Now I am really hoping and praying that Rob can somehow trade for Royce O'Neal. The guy is a pretty good defender who has a career 38.5 3pt%.
Hopefully at the same time acquire Nick Richards as their actual back up Center.
Grayson Allen is actually a better shooter but I am not sure if he is a good enough defender.


Smart shot 39.5% in DC last year, I heard.

He’s still an elite defender. That’s what we need him for — to cover for Luka’s half-assed defense. And for when Reaves is too small and boney to be useful.

I’d love Royce O’Neal here. Quentin Grimes, Dyson Daniels, DeAnthony Melton are also good options. Powell, too. And Nesmith and Nemhart. And Hart and Caruso.

We need a defensive dawg with a shot.

I think we should trade a combo of Rui, Klieber, Knecht and Vando for a quality POA defender and a second string C. Four or three players for two, get lower under apron 1. Then sign Bazely from summer league, who plays with enough desperation. Leave one spot open and some $ headroom for Giannis for when he bails. ;-)

We have enough offense as is. Not enough defense to win anything.

Try to avoid basing 3pt% based on last season because it can get really fluky like what happened so MANY times before.
I remember Pelinka proudly stated the fact that a good defender like Kent Bazemore shot 40% from 3 in Golden State. Then boom, shot miserably overall for the Lakers. He was so bad that he hasn't played in the league after the Lakers stint. :nonono:
Reggie Bullock shot great before the Lakers got him at 39%, 34% with the Lakers. :banghead:
Mo Bamba shot 40% in Orlando, then was awful with the Lakers at 31%.
Toscano-Anderson with 32% in GSW, shot 18% in LA.
I heard Grimes is looking for a 20 Mil/year contract and Daniels is also a bad shooter and probably would rot in JJ's bench.
Look, most good defenders who can hit open 3's are already under really good contract because most teams really value them a lot.
Josh Hart, Caruso, DFS, PJ Washington, Derrick White etc etc are getting paid by their teams and are unavailable.
You can check sites like ESPN, bbref etc if available players are indeed good enough shooters.


Well, Smart is a good enough shooter not to be left open. That’s what we need from our SG POA defender on offense; be a reliable fifth option. He’s steadily improved his jumper over the years.

On defense, we absolutely need a defender of Marcus Smart’s caliber. Nothing less if we’re going for rings.
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Re: Official Build a winner & FA: Update- Ayton signs 

Post#288 » by tamaraw08 » Wed Jul 9, 2025 4:29 am

stan francisco wrote:
tamaraw08 wrote:
stan francisco wrote:
Smart shot 39.5% in DC last year, I heard.

He’s still an elite defender. That’s what we need him for — to cover for Luka’s half-assed defense. And for when Reaves is too small and boney to be useful.

I’d love Royce O’Neal here. Quentin Grimes, Dyson Daniels, DeAnthony Melton are also good options. Powell, too. And Nesmith and Nemhart. And Hart and Caruso.

We need a defensive dawg with a shot.

I think we should trade a combo of Rui, Klieber, Knecht and Vando for a quality POA defender and a second string C. Four or three players for two, get lower under apron 1. Then sign Bazely from summer league, who plays with enough desperation. Leave one spot open and some $ headroom for Giannis for when he bails. ;-)

We have enough offense as is. Not enough defense to win anything.

Try to avoid basing 3pt% based on last season because it can get really fluky like what happened so MANY times before.
I remember Pelinka proudly stated the fact that a good defender like Kent Bazemore shot 40% from 3 in Golden State. Then boom, shot miserably overall for the Lakers. He was so bad that he hasn't played in the league after the Lakers stint. :nonono:
Reggie Bullock shot great before the Lakers got him at 39%, 34% with the Lakers. :banghead:
Mo Bamba shot 40% in Orlando, then was awful with the Lakers at 31%.
Toscano-Anderson with 32% in GSW, shot 18% in LA.
I heard Grimes is looking for a 20 Mil/year contract and Daniels is also a bad shooter and probably would rot in JJ's bench.
Look, most good defenders who can hit open 3's are already under really good contract because most teams really value them a lot.
Josh Hart, Caruso, DFS, PJ Washington, Derrick White etc etc are getting paid by their teams and are unavailable.
You can check sites like ESPN, bbref etc if available players are indeed good enough shooters.


Well, Smart is a good enough shooter not to be left open. That’s what we need from our SG POA defender on offense; be a reliable fifth option. He’s steadily improved his jumper over the years.

On defense, we absolutely need a defender of Marcus Smart’s caliber. Nothing less if we’re going for rings.

Well if the Lakers do get Smart, I hope and PRAY that you are right about him hitting open 3's.
Brad Stevens and the whole Boston team loved the guy but eventually gave up on him because of his putrid shooting.
Clippers' best perimeter POA defender last playoffs was Kris Dunn and yet Lue had to sit him in key parts of the game (more than half) because he became a liability on offense.
Presti gave up on Giddey because of the same glaring weakness.
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Re: Official Build a winner & FA: Update- Riley nuts, Beal buyout 

Post#289 » by Danny Darko » Wed Jul 9, 2025 6:53 am

wait... what... how... why

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Post#290 » by wco81 » Wed Jul 9, 2025 4:58 pm

Jeannie Buss to remain governor of Lakers for at least 5 years.

Pelinka's contract extended.

So new contracts for Lebron and Bronny when their current contracts run out?
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Post#291 » by stan francisco » Wed Jul 9, 2025 11:19 pm

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It would make perfect sense, though. He can fill a big hole on our roster: POA defense and fifth option open shooting, as well as reliable play-making.

Luka, not a strong defender.
Reaves, Bron, Ayton… not a strong defender.

I’d love to have him here. LaRavia could learn some stuff from him. So could Knecht. And Reaves.
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Post#292 » by stan francisco » Thu Jul 10, 2025 4:44 am

Rocco Zikarsky, 18 year old Aussie. If we make a 5 for 2 trade (Gabe, Rui, Milton, Klieber, filler), snag him now? He is 7’4” with defensive instincts and very quick hops. He has a 9’6” standing reach and very quick feet. He’s working on his 3 pt shot and is a good rim runner. Very raw on offense, a 250 pound twig. We just hired Duke’s player development coach Robinson. Wemby. Holmgren. Gobert. We need a tall dude.
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Post#293 » by Liam_Gallagher » Thu Jul 10, 2025 3:55 pm

Chris Paul should sign with us and end his career with LeBron. He'll soak up all of the backup PG minutes and still play 20-24 MPG. Doncic will play backup SF. Trade Gabe Vincent, Jarred Vanderbilt, Dalton Knecht and a 2031 first for Andrew Wiggins and a filler.

G - Doncic (36) | Paul (20)
G - Reaves (36)| Goodwin (6) | James Jr.
F - Wiggins (28) | LaRavia (14) | Thiero
F - James (34)| Hachimura (24) | Kleber
C - Ayton (30) | Hayes (12)
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Post#294 » by MAMBAEMD » Thu Jul 10, 2025 5:09 pm

Liam_Gallagher wrote:Chris Paul should sign with us and end his career with LeBron. He'll soak up all of the backup PG minutes and still play 20-24 MPG. Doncic will play backup SF. Trade Gabe Vincent, Jarred Vanderbilt, Dalton Knecht and a 2031 first for Andrew Wiggins and a filler.

G - Doncic (36) | Paul (20)
G - Reaves (36)| Goodwin (6) | James Jr.
F - Wiggins (28) | LaRavia (14) | Thiero
F - James (34)| Hachimura (24) | Kleber
C - Ayton (30) | Hayes (12)


I like Wiggins but giving up Vincent and Vando is giving up two of our best defenders on the ball, from and already weak defensive team.

Also, I don't think CP brings enough value to counteract his defensive weaknesses.
I'd rather go after Melton.
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Post#295 » by LAKESHOW » Thu Jul 10, 2025 5:26 pm

I agree with the defensive part. Having Vincent just get after it up top was vital for us during the year, but with him gone. Finn Smith gone. And a vando? Holy crap, I just cannot watch the continuous blow by we would see on every play.
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Post#296 » by stan francisco » Sat Jul 12, 2025 9:11 am

Hoping for Grimes.
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Post#297 » by SlimShady83 » Sat Jul 12, 2025 9:18 am

Even though we got Ayton/Hayes ... Is Bol Bol worth going for?

UFA atm still, AGE 25 years could be had on the cheap? Ayton/Hayes/Bol Bol would be no more then 2 years, maybe team option?
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Post#298 » by -Spyda- » Sat Jul 12, 2025 7:27 pm

stan francisco wrote:Hoping for Grimes.

Too expensive
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Post#299 » by stan francisco » Sat Jul 12, 2025 9:49 pm

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stan francisco wrote:Hoping for Grimes.

Too expensive
Good player


Yeah.

Rui, Klieber, Milton, Knecht, pick, cash. Any combination of the above is okay with me. We need a true 3&D SG.

Then another young C. Rocco.
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Post#300 » by loveshaq007 » Sat Jul 12, 2025 11:03 pm

normal Powell and Wiggins..... for rui, Vando, kleiber, knecht, and Milton (none of his contract is guaranteed)... and a first

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