2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5

[Beenie]

Pass on Smart

I havent watched him in a while, but the idea of him chucking ill advised 3's doesnt sound appealing

Do you enjoy Terry Rozier step back 3's, no defense, and some of the most bone headed basketball plays you have every seen in your life? Beggars can't be choosers here.

Why is it one or the other?

I'm okay with evaluating the field for alternative considerations

[MartyCONLONNN]

I know LEIF's sources are questionable but he posted about Bucks being an option for Wiggins. what would Miami even take back from that Portis? he signed his contract before FA I believe which makes him trade eligible. Kuzma is the only other higher salary player? but nothing really adds up there. maybe theyre hearing Bucks bc we're GETTING GIANNIS

[MettaWorldPanda]

Pass on Smart

I havent watched him in a while, but the idea of him chucking ill advised 3's doesnt sound appealing

Do you enjoy Terry Rozier step back 3's, no defense, and some of the most bone headed basketball plays you have every seen in your life? Beggars can't be choosers here.

Why is it one or the other?

I'm okay with evaluating the field for alternative considerations

Not many alternatives for that 26 mil per year dumpster contract. Smart and Vucevic are probably our only hopes besides a buy out. Who are your realistic alternatives?

[Beenie]

Do you enjoy Terry Rozier step back 3's, no defense, and some of the most bone headed basketball plays you have every seen in your life? Beggars can't be choosers here.

Why is it one or the other?

I'm okay with evaluating the field for alternative considerations

Not many alternatives for that 26 mil per year dumpster contract. Smart and Vucevic are probably our only hopes besides a buy out. Who are your realistic alternatives?

The strategy I'd like them to consider is to look for undesirable contacts that would be sweetened with picks that Wiggins/ Rozier could be swapped for.

[Vertical Limit]

So its clear to everyone that there is currently two roster spots open.. kaspar wont be making the opening day roster

[MettaWorldPanda]

So its clear to everyone that there is currently two roster spots open.. kaspar wont be making the opening day roster

He has a guaranteed contract he’ll be taking up a roster spot but he’s more the 14/15th man on roster who spends most of his time in G league. Basically needs a redshirt year like Jovic

[Wiltside]

This humbling SL experience for Kaspar hopefully just shows how far he has to go and makes him work even harder. By all accounts he's a gym rat and relentless film studier. Let's hope he gets to work and starts to figure it out. I'm sure he'll get plenty of reps in Sioux Falls, and we'll just need to be patient while he develops.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Why is it one or the other?

I'm okay with evaluating the field for alternative considerations

Not many alternatives for that 26 mil per year dumpster contract. Smart and Vucevic are probably our only hopes besides a buy out. Who are your realistic alternatives?

The strategy I'd like them to consider is to look for undesirable contacts that would be sweetened with picks that Wiggins/ Rozier could be swapped for.

Not much out there. Trust me i’ve been looking top to bottom for realistic options. Basically contracts that line up with Rozier that also saves us money from the cap. Not an easy task.

[Wiltside]

It's not perfect, but I'd be OK with Point Jovic being our defacto second unit PG.

Second unit should be:

Powell
Larsson
Jaquez
Jovic

With one of Ware or Bam rotating in as the 5th after an earlier sub. We do need a vet big IMO. Arguably a bigger need than backup Point.

[Hallstar]

So its clear to everyone that there is currently two roster spots open.. kaspar wont be making the opening day roster

[twix2500]

Rozier and Fontecchio for Smart and Richaun Holmes salaries match perfectly.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Ok, finished watching some Powell film.

Imo, they should be running the Mike Brown defense.
(Simplified)
I would start herro and Powell together.
Powell at poa and hide herro.
Poa defense is overrated, it's more casual speak. Help defense is what makes a defense. Outside of the "hide" , poa is the least impactful role in this set up.

Ware protects rim. But needs to get smarter on reads. Hunting block shots is not defense.
Bam roams to protect mid to paint. Defacto Dray. You want him switching, but most importantly communicating.
Wiggins needs to help top and bottom. (His actual best role and the role he had in 2022). He's a much better help defender than poa, no question. I assume spo will be eventually figure it out, if he has access to tracking.

Powell has the athleticism to stay up front, doesn't have to be good. He lacks switchability and awareness. He can be better if it's simple see man and follow man. No thinking involved. He csn at least needs to funnel the action into Wiggins and bam. Let those 2 do the brunt of the leg work on defense. Ware is there if anything breaks through.

Not meany teams can run the brown defense because it needs a specific personnel. He couldn't in Sacramento, but I bet my house we will see it in NY (less ice and more switch funneling into OG and robinson).

This leaves herro and Powell to keep their energy on offense while bam and wiggins still contribute their 30+ points.

I would be spamming this 5 man group as a whole all preseason and exhibition, they will need reps. Being in sync and communication is key, and that doesn't come from.just watching film.

Offense will be easier to learn.

Jovic should be the 6th man.

[MartyConlonJr]

This is probably more of a General Board offseason level post, but I thought I'd try it here for fun.

I always thought if I was a GM, it would be cool to wager my draft pick with another team every year - firstly it tells my team there is no incentive to tank, it increases the rivalry, and it gives fans more to cheer for - even if it is straight up hating.

So it is a straight up swap, no protections. You get my pick, I get yours. Betting on yourself and your team.

Then I thought, it would be great if the league had teams pair up, and all 30 teams did this. Maybe every team ranks the other 29 teams from who they would most like to trade picks with to the least, then the team with the worst record gets to choose from all the teams that had them as the team they'd most like to trade with. If there are no teams like that, then the second most and so on.

I'm sure that the idea is stupid and chock full of holes - Utah calls Charlotte and they agree to pick one another and just tank anyway, but that feels harder to pull off if you start resting Markannan for no reason etc. I also think all the owed picks could be problematic, but I guess the team with the pick gets to make the choice. Protections would complicate it too.

Would you ever want to do it, and what teams would you be willing to do a straight pick swap with for Miami's?

[RexBoyWonder]

Should we go with a starting lineup of :

PG: Herro
SG: Powell
SF: Wiggins
PF: Bam
C: Ware

OR

PG: Mitchell
SG: Herro
SF: Wiggns
PD: Jovic
C: Bam

[Bhut Jolokia]

Should we go with a starting lineup of :

PG: Herro
SG: Powell
SF: Wiggins
PF: Bam
C: Ware

OR

PG: Mitchell
SG: Herro
SF: Wiggns
PD: Jovic
C: Bam

The starting lineup may be different than the closing lineup.

Starting:
Herro
Powell
Wiggins
Bam
Ware

Closing:
Mitchell
Herro
Powell
Wiggins
Bam

[marson]

I’d bet on Herro and Powell being the starting backcourt. Spacing and scoring are crucial, and the only thing holding Mitchell back from starting is his limited offensive skill set.

Adding Powell to the lineup would give Herro much more space to score on his own.

This is the same coach who started Burks/Herro backcourt.

[DayofMourning]

Noticed that Caitlyn Clark is shooting below 40% from the field, below 30% from 3 and averages 6 TOs a game. Shes the leading allstar vote getter and face of the league.

Feels like we have the same in Kaspar.

[Beenie]

Not many alternatives for that 26 mil per year dumpster contract. Smart and Vucevic are probably our only hopes besides a buy out. Who are your realistic alternatives?

The strategy I'd like them to consider is to look for undesirable contacts that would be sweetened with picks that Wiggins/ Rozier could be swapped for.

Not much out there. Trust me i’ve been looking top to bottom for realistic options. Basically contracts that line up with Rozier that also saves us money from the cap. Not an easy task.

Jejonte Murray - NO
PG - Philly

Not saying that this is the only strategy worth considering, tbc

[SA37]

I'm ok with not getting Smart but also most of the deals involving Smart involve Rozier heading to the the Wiz which is probably one of the hardest expiring contracts to deal without an asset right now. Honestly really hoping we can swap Rozier for Vucevic and sign Malcolm Brogden or GP2. Whomever trades for Rozier is most likely only doing it for the pick and probably buys him out immediately. Rozier has his career waiting for him in the 3 v 3 circuit

While I think Smart has maybe lost motivation and let himself go since the Celtics trade I still would be happy trading Terry for him if that’s the best we can do using his salary. I think he would thrive here and regain himself some. Same as I think with Jrue but that’s too much money to gamble on, I was only open to that possibility if we landed KD.

Vuc I’ll gladly take off the bench and if Ware is messing around he can push him for that starting spot. If anything it may help Ware stay engaged

See you get it Bammy. Like I said beggars can't be choosers when discussing what to do with Rozier's contract. Smart could find himself again here as a valued veteran and if it doesn't work out he gone anyway next year. I can't go though another year of Rozier. I'd rather deal with any shortcomings Smart has. Vucevic for Rozier is about as good as it's going to get. I hope the Bulls don't stay stubborn and do right by him. Take the second and just buy out Rozier.

Smart is about as "Heat culture" as it gets. He's 31, so he should still have 3-4 good years left assuming he doesn't have arthritic knees or something like that. That doesn't mean Miami is going to get "prime" Smart, but his toughness, leadership, and ability to mentor defensive-minded players, like Highsmith and Mitchell on its own is worth trading for.

What is wild is I just found out GP II is actually a year older than Smart. In fact, GP II will be 33 before Smart turns 32.

I'd actually prefer signing GP II, but Miami would have to make a trade to get far enough below the tax line/1st apron to be able to offer GP II a deal in a pay range he'd accept (like ~$7M/season). I think it'd likely have to be a 2-year overpay similar to what Miami signed with Mitchell, so maybe 2-years, $15-$16M.

[SA37]

Should we go with a starting lineup of :

PG: Herro
SG: Powell
SF: Wiggins
PF: Bam
C: Ware

OR

PG: Mitchell
SG: Herro
SF: Wiggns
PD: Jovic
C: Bam

I don't think it matters because I think Ware is going to be a 20mpg guy who probably starts for the confidence boost, but get pulled in favor of a small-ball lineup:

Mitchell
Herro
Powell
Wiggins
Bam