Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap

[giannis and 1]

Utah gets: Kuzma and a 2031 Bucks swap
Milwaukee gets: Simons
Boston gets: Utah TPE.

(this is probably more than Simons is worth, may have to put protections on the swap but then it becomes questionable in value to the Jazz)

Bucks decline.

Bucks would be insane to decline this, especially if there’s protections on the swap. They get out of a terrible Kuzma contract and get a guard who can replace some of what they lost in waiving Lillard.

Maybe they can move the swap out for a couple of second rounders instead?

Not a lot of room for Simons in our guard rotation.

We’d rather use kuzma+assets for a sf.

[Pattycakes]

More evidence this was a bad deal for Portland. If Boston wants to move Anfernee Simons afterwards that is straight up telling you they feel he has more value than Jrue around the NBA.

Or that they think it is easier to dump his salary because he is expiring.

Portland wanted an upgrade defensively at guard (which they got) and didn't care about the salary because their books are pretty clean.

Seems like a good deal for both teams, Boston had to shed salary and are willing to pay with talent, the reverse is true for Portland. Portland has a chance for very good defense going forward

People just don't want to admit they were wrong that is fine. Portland got an older player who won't help them other than win a couple extra games more than they should and will eat up capspace which could have been used to acquire assets.

Portland is gonna have a top 5 defense this year with the best picks on the market from 2028-2030. Don’t hate, participate!

[Sixers in 4]

Or that they think it is easier to dump his salary because he is expiring.

Portland wanted an upgrade defensively at guard (which they got) and didn't care about the salary because their books are pretty clean.

Seems like a good deal for both teams, Boston had to shed salary and are willing to pay with talent, the reverse is true for Portland. Portland has a chance for very good defense going forward

People just don't want to admit they were wrong that is fine. Portland got an older player who won't help them other than win a couple extra games more than they should and will eat up capspace which could have been used to acquire assets.

Portland is gonna have a top 5 defense this year with the best picks on the market from 2028-2030. Don’t hate, participate!

You still have a bright future but this was a lousy trade. You should have gotten a future first at least like BKN got for taking on MPJ

[chrisab123]

Boston got more value out of the initial trade than they gave up. However, aside from him bombing 3s I don’t see the fit with the current roster

[Celts17Pride]

Boston got more value out of the initial trade than they gave up. However, aside from him bombing 3s I don’t see the fit with the current roster

Celtics are just trying to moving Simons to reduce more payroll to have room to add other players.

[facothomas22]

Well good luck to the Celtics on that. Nobody is trading anything of value for this guy.

[itrsteve]

Still wouldn't mind keeping him. But if the name of the game is shedding more salary then we do another 75% inbound salary move.

[Celts17Pride]

Well good luck to the Celtics on that. Nobody is trading anything of value for this guy.

This sounds like the Celtics have to attach picks in order to move Holiday and/or Porzingis. NOT!

[In-N-Out 247]

how about a reunion with Marcus Smart? Simons for Smart. Gives the Wizards another young player and gets the Celtics well below the 2nd apron.

[PistolPeteJR]

Tough to make salary work and need to wait until Simons can be aggregated, but…

White/Simons for Randle/DDV/Conley

Celtics need to add some value.

That leaves an already thin frontcourt in Minny even thinner, no? Reid isn't a 5, he's a 4/3, and Randle is more a 4/5 than a 5/4, but at least they can get away to some extent in various lineups with him at the 5 so Gobert can rest + injury insurance. I know Minny also wants a PG to replace Conley at this point, but is this really the best option?

I also think Simons is redundant here. He'll simply take the ball out of Edwards' hands without providing much on the defensive side of the court.

[Saul Goodman]

Dillingham and Conley from Minnesota?

[PistolPeteJR]

how about a reunion with Marcus Smart? Simons for Smart. Gives the Wizards another young player and gets the Celtics well below the 2nd apron.

Boston couldn't wait to offload Smart two years ago, when he was better than he is now. They made this trade to gain value. Trading Simons for Smart is going in the other direction.

[facothomas22]

Well good luck to the Celtics on that. Nobody is trading anything of value for this guy.

This sounds like the Celtics have to attach picks in order to move Holiday and/or Porzingis. NOT!

The difference is that those guys still had some value due to their skillset. Jrue Holiday despite of being overpaid is still a 3 and D player at the end of the day, which make it easier for teams to overlook his contract. Kristaps Porzingis is also a another guy who still a good player 2 way player when healthy. I don't anyway the Celtics will be able to squeeze any value out of a player who one way scoring guard who doesn't seem he would be that effective come the playoffs. The Market has spoken when it comes to guys of his skillset. Very likely the Celtics are going have to attach draft capital of some form in order to trade Simons,unless they're willing to take a long term bad contract.

[Devilanche]

Well good luck to the Celtics on that. Nobody is trading anything of value for this guy.

The value Boston is looking for is reducing their tax hits.

[JujitsuFlip]

Boston got more value out of the initial trade than they gave up. However, aside from him bombing 3s I don’t see the fit with the current roster

It was never about fit, it was about getting under the 2nd apron.

Dumping Jrue and KP did that. Letting Kornet and big Al walk ensured they stayed under that.

[Wingy]

Phx for Grayson Allen

Boston sheds salary, Phx gets a Beal replacement

Uh…Jalen Green.

[BlazersBroncos]

I think the return here would be a guy that makes as much less on a EC as Simons makes currently to match salary (I think 25% is the rule). Seeing what Sexton went for, seeing Clarkson cut, seeing Cam Thomas getting lowballed - we know short 1-way guards are just not pulling value.

LAL could probably offer Vincent + Kleber + filler. Saves BOS a little, gets a few EC vets on the team. LAL makes a move for a shooter who doesnt add long term money. Also can open up a trade of Reaves.

[facothomas22]

Well good luck to the Celtics on that. Nobody is trading anything of value for this guy.

The value Boston is looking for is reducing their tax hits.

Why would another team help the Celtics with that,unless they were given an incentive to do so? Guys who share Simons skillset comes in dime in a dozen, so if the Celtics are looking to use Simon contract to cut salary, they're going have to be willing to send out draft capital to do so.

[DusterBuster]

I think the return here would be a guy that makes as much less on a EC as Simons makes currently to match salary (I think 25% is the rule). Seeing what Sexton went for, seeing Clarkson cut, seeing Cam Thomas getting lowballed - we know short 1-way guards are just not pulling value.

LAL could probably offer Vincent + Kleber + filler. Saves BOS a little, gets a few EC vets on the team. LAL makes a move for a shooter who doesnt add long term money. Also can open up a trade of Reaves.

This is part of why I think they went with Jrue. Jrue, from a just pure talent standpoint, was probably far and away the most talented player they got offered for Simons when they started looking. They had long-term interest in Jrue for years now, and needed a lockerroom leader and mentor, so they justified the contract and age with those pieces.

I’m guessing other offers they got for Simons was like you said. Some spare parts that didn’t do much for the roster or lockerroom and probably only 2nd rounders. After seeing this market, it’s hard to imagine anyone was offering up a first for Ant, but I guess we will see…

[DusterBuster]

Tough to make salary work and need to wait until Simons can be aggregated, but…

White/Simons for Randle/DDV/Conley

Celtics need to add some value.

Terrible trade idea.

First trade where it makes sense for neither side. Completely baffling why either team would do it.