[Shams] Holmgren has agreed to a fully guaranteed 5 year maximum rookie extension that could reach $250M

[Wolveswin]

A trade Presti needs to make is obvious despite shaking up a championship team. But these are bench role players we are talking about.

To Nets: IHart/Caruso

To OKC: Claxton/Mann

OKC gets much better contracts, younger, and more versatile. Claxton contract is less and decreasing and Mann contract is less and holds steady.

Hurts to lose Caruso, but Wallace is next man up for that role. Mann backfill helps ease the pain too.

[Doctor MJ]

Chet was invisible at times in the finals and is not the man guy in OKC. While Paolo is literally the Magic’s best player.

Franz is way better in most metrics.

Franz is better than Paolo defensively and statistically. However, you actually watch the game Paolo is the best player. Everything is literally ran through him. Even how their contract is structured shows the importance of Paolo.

The fact the Magic are running the offense through Paolo doesn’t mean he’s the best player, it just means they are making a choice about which player to play through.

If the offense was good it would be a feather in the cap of the guy given primacy in it, but as it is, the Magic offense continues to be awful. They aren’t playing through Paolo because it’s working, they are playing through Paolo because they are betting he’ll eventually make it work.

And this is certainly the deal with the contract too. They are paying him based on what they hope him to become not what he’s been thus far.

To be clear, the Magic doing this is a pretty normal thing with a putative superstar. They don’t typically come in as rookies or sophomores and give superstar value.

Where things get precarious, as things are now for the Magic, is when you feel the need to give a rookie max extension to a guy who hasn’t actually turned the corner yet.


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[SkyBill40]

This is probably the beginning of the end for them and I'm fine with it. They've got a lot of picks to restock the roster as needed so losing guys won't be as painful as it would be for any other franchise and especially so for one that lacks any flexibility due to not having any resources.

They've got maybe two seasons after this and then they'll have to start tearing it down.

[Dadouv47]

OKC is just on another level defensively with Chet on the floor. Funny to read that he's a "3rd option", that's underestimating defense once again. He's at worst a top 4 defensive big in today's NBA and he can still improve a lot on offense. OKC isn't winning championships without him anyway so we aren't taking a risk by keeping him and if he gets a more serious injury/career ending injury we have enough assets to get rid of his contract. Of course it sucks to have 3 big contracts and not top 30 players under rookie deals anymore but we knew that was coming.

[tmorgan]

The real fun is going to be seeing what Presti does starting in 26-27, when SGA, JDUb, and Chet make 85-90% of the cap between them.

Keep all three, trust the scouting, keep rotating in cheap players?
Deal one of them, invest more salary in the rest of the roster?

All three are important to OKC’s success, obviously, but I think Chet is the second most important because interior defense matters. That said, he’s easily the riskiest of the three with his precarious combo of fragility and aggressiveness.

Win the title again next year and then decide, I guess.

[PushDaRock]

A trade Presti needs to make is obvious despite shaking up a championship team. But these are bench role players we are talking about.

To Nets: IHart/Caruso

To OKC: Claxton/Mann

OKC gets much better contracts, younger, and more versatile. Claxton contract is less and decreasing and Mann contract is less and holds steady.

Hurts to lose Caruso, but Wallace is next man up for that role. Mann backfill helps ease the pain too.

lmao wtf? Say you're a Nets fan without saying you're a Nets fan.

[JT3000]

No PO and $40m less than Paolo is pretty terrible work from his agent, lol. He helped his team just win the title.

Chet was invisible in the finals at times .

Paolo has sucked his entire career and got a full max.

Which he should! He will probably one day be good.

But he hasn't been at any point.

Where do we find these jokers?

[web123888]

overpaid and very overrated. he's a poor 3rd option. very easily prone to getting taken out of a game entirely due to limited offensive arsenal and lack of strength. he will be okc's undoing next year vs. jokic who should eat him alive.

He helped them win a championship. That has to count for something.

Plenty of much better players in the league than Chet Holmgren making a fraction of his salary who could’ve won a title with OKC as the #3. Nuggets also won a title with MPJ as the 3rd option and look where he is now. Thunder’s title was driven primarily by SGA / Williams, as the Nuggets’ title was driven primarily by Jokic / Murray.

I foresee very little improvement in the kid’s game going forward. He’s a terrible playmaker and passer with no court vision (ball hog to be frank, for someone who isn’t even a good scorer) at all and very streaky with frequent tendencies to get completely shut down as a scorer if his jumper isn’t falling.

[Patches Perry]

overpaid and very overrated. he's a poor 3rd option. very easily prone to getting taken out of a game entirely due to limited offensive arsenal and lack of strength. he will be okc's undoing next year vs. jokic who should eat him alive.

He helped them win a championship. That has to count for something.

Plenty of much better players in the league than Chet Holmgren making a fraction of his salary who could’ve won a title with OKC as the #3. Nuggets also won a title with MPJ as the 3rd option and look where he is now. Thunder’s title was driven primarily by SGA / Williams, as the Nuggets’ title was driven primarily by Jokic / Murray.

I foresee very little improvement in the kid’s game going forward. He’s a terrible playmaker and passer with no court vision (ball hog to be frank, for someone who isn’t even a good scorer) at all and very streaky with frequent tendencies to get completely shut down as a scorer if his jumper isn’t falling.

Comparing a "3rd option" like MPJ to Chet is wrong right out of the gate because the defensive impact is totally different. A top 5 defensive big man who protects the rim and can guard in space, while also being competent offensively, puts him a lot closer to max than not. Especially on a loaded team where theres not that many touches to go around for him anyways. His value offensively will mostly be in being a lob threat, 3pt threat and connective passer. If he gets his playoff 3pt shooting up to speed with his RS 3pt shooting, and stays healthy, the contract is already worth it basically.

Injury, which admittedly is high risk for him, is the only way I see him not living up to this contract for the most part.

[OrlMagic05]

Chet was invisible in the finals at times .

Paolo has sucked his entire career and got a full max.

Which he should! He will probably one day be good.

But he hasn't been at any point.

lol, now I can’t take what you say seriously.

The Paolo hate is getting out of hand. Now the guy has "sucked his entire career"

[Jamaaliver]

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[OrlMagic05]

People need to understand, if OKC or ORL doesnt pay Chet/Paolo, someone will, so you pay. What is so hard to understand? You don't think teams with Cap would offer max contracts to these guys if their respected teams didnt? Lets be real.

[stuporman]

Why do the Magic players get mentioned in every discussion? It’s interesting

[PaulKellerman]

Chet was a +169, leading all players in the playoffs and blocked 11 shots in the Finals, most in NBA Finals history.

He's 23 and missed a year due to injury. Chet will be okay and this was virtually guaranteed. OKC has their core and they will continue to tweak around the edges. 1 ring down, hopefully more to add

[basketballRob]

A trade Presti needs to make is obvious despite shaking up a championship team. But these are bench role players we are talking about.

To Nets: IHart/Caruso

To OKC: Claxton/Mann

OKC gets much better contracts, younger, and more versatile. Claxton contract is less and decreasing and Mann contract is less and holds steady.

Hurts to lose Caruso, but Wallace is next man up for that role. Mann backfill helps ease the pain too.

Mccain to OKC, Hartenstein to Philadelphia.

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[Duke4life831]

Just like the Paolo contract and every other rookie max deal.

They’re not paying Chet this money for the player he is today. They’re paying him this money with the plan/hope he is that level of player by the end of this next deal.

Teams realize 22-23 year olds usually aren’t finished products. And the potential with guys like Paolo and Chet are very obvious to see.

Paolo: 6’10 point forward who has help lead ORL to the playoffs in back to back seasons with as bad of a fitting offensive roster you could put around him.

Chet: A mobile 7’1 defender who has DPOY potential and is a career 37% 3pt shooter.

And on top of that, use these two as a comparison to say Zion/Ja. These two are golden children off the court compared to those two. So you got the #1 and #2 overall picks in their draft. Who both have shown plenty of flashes and the long term potential is obvious.

If OKC or ORL doesn’t offer them these deals, every team would be lining up to offer them it.

These are no brainier extensions with today’s CBA.

And again we’re talking about 22-23 year olds. These guys are still 3-4 years away from even scratching their potential ceiling.

[Daddy 801]

Imagine feeling like anyone accepting 250 million is a bad move. I mean, we have lost the plot here. Good for Chet.

Not to mention he has missed a ton of games and while I don’t wish injury on any player as a GM you would have to look at his frame and be very concerned he is a possible injury away from disrupting a potential championship dynasty.

I wish I made 250 million and people told me I was accepting a bad deal.

[AdamSSSlither]

i like chet but fully guaranteed seems risky for a guy who's femur can snap if the wind blows

[byeganyo]

Chet is not worth this contract obviously (missed more games than played for 3 seasons), but at some point if OKC want to make trades and they have all the assets in the world to do it, they will need matching contracts... so it makes sense even if only as a trade chip.

[Daddy 801]

Presti is smart to lock down Chet even with the injury concern. With Joker, Wemby, Sengun all playoff matchups you have to have a good big man to make it to the finals in the west.