Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga

[HiRez]

Also how valuable is the 28 pick if Giannis is on the team? Maybe the 30/32 pick becomes valuable because Giannis probably asks out then when he's 35 and 37.

Yeah, that's the tricky part about using our picks to acquire Giannis (assuming it's even a possibility). The fact that Giannis is coming back instantly devalues those picks by a lot. It's a problem for Milwaukee too since they know whoever they trade him to isn't going to be one of the 10 worst teams in the league. If I were them I'd be looking to trade him to a team who owns a lot of other team's picks, and take those instead.

[TB]

I don’t think trades for anyone worthwhile are going to be there… players like a Keon Ellis or Kispert or Herb for example.

If thats the case, I think dealing with the awkwardness and fit with Kuminga at 20m a year is better than a lesser deal just for the sake of getting him off the team.

The solve for that is Dray taking one for the team and pulling an Andre and coming off the bench. If we have Horford and Jimmy starting, that is a great defensive pairing to have with Kuminga in the frontcourt. Also it adds some athleticism and he can take a perimeter scorer defensive assignment to let Jimmy play free safety. Not to mention if Post proves worthy, having him pair with Dray will be much more successful than a Kuminga/Post frontcourt that lacks interior defense. And this doesn’t mean Dray can’t close, he can close for Kuminga, Horford, or Podz based on how they are playing.

Honestly, if we get Horford (and especially if we also get Beal somehow) this could be a really good fit FOR Kuminga… but again, it would take our 3rd best player and 2nd best Warrior of the dynasty to once again do whats best for the team instead of himself. But Dray has done that over and over so I could see this working. It also lets Beal play his preferred role as a go-to scorer since he’d be playing with stars that are much more pass-first than what he was dealing with in Phoenix.

Steph / Beal
Podz / Melton
Jimmy / Moody
Kuminga / Dray
Horford / Post

Thats an insanely good shortened 9 man rotation (when Dray just splits center time and Post gets squeezed) with guys like Buddy/Post/GP2/Santos/Trayce providing depth.

Probably not going to happen though since that requires Kuminga signing, Horford signing, Beal signing, Melton signing, and Dray and Beal agreeing to this plan lol… but I do think thats a title contender for sure. I mean its even worth it to tell Beal he can start and just put Podz/Melton as the backup guards.

[Onus]

I don’t think trades for anyone worthwhile are going to be there… players like a Keon Ellis or Kispert or Herb for example.

If thats the case, I think dealing with the awkwardness and fit with Kuminga at 20m a year is better than a lesser deal just for the sake of getting him off the team.

The solve for that is Dray taking one for the team and pulling an Andre and coming off the bench. If we have Horford and Jimmy starting, that is a great defensive pairing to have with Kuminga in the frontcourt. Also it adds some athleticism and he can take a perimeter scorer defensive assignment to let Jimmy play free safety. Not to mention if Post proves worthy, having him pair with Dray will be much more successful than a Kuminga/Post frontcourt that lacks interior defense. And this doesn’t mean Dray can’t close, he can close for Kuminga, Horford, or Podz based on how they are playing.

Honestly, if we get Horford (and especially if we also get Beal somehow) this could be a really good fit FOR Kuminga… but again, it would take our 3rd best player and 2nd best Warrior of the dynasty to once again do whats best for the team instead of himself. But Dray has done that over and over so I could see this working. It also lets Beal play his preferred role as a go-to scorer since he’d be playing with stars that are much more pass-first than what he was dealing with in Phoenix.

Steph / Beal
Podz / Melton
Jimmy / Moody
Kuminga / Dray
Horford / Post

Thats an insanely good shortened 9 man rotation (when Dray just splits center time and Post gets squeezed) with guys like Buddy/Post/GP2/Santos/Trayce providing depth.

Probably not going to happen though since that requires Kuminga signing, Horford signing, Beal signing, Melton signing, and Dray and Beal agreeing to this plan lol… but I do think thats a title contender for sure.

Even without Beal we're still in a good spot. Though we are relying on Melton to stay healthy for the whole year and a playoff run which is highly unlikely.

[TB]

I don’t think trades for anyone worthwhile are going to be there… players like a Keon Ellis or Kispert or Herb for example.

If thats the case, I think dealing with the awkwardness and fit with Kuminga at 20m a year is better than a lesser deal just for the sake of getting him off the team.

The solve for that is Dray taking one for the team and pulling an Andre and coming off the bench. If we have Horford and Jimmy starting, that is a great defensive pairing to have with Kuminga in the frontcourt. Also it adds some athleticism and he can take a perimeter scorer defensive assignment to let Jimmy play free safety. Not to mention if Post proves worthy, having him pair with Dray will be much more successful than a Kuminga/Post frontcourt that lacks interior defense. And this doesn’t mean Dray can’t close, he can close for Kuminga, Horford, or Podz based on how they are playing.

Honestly, if we get Horford (and especially if we also get Beal somehow) this could be a really good fit FOR Kuminga… but again, it would take our 3rd best player and 2nd best Warrior of the dynasty to once again do whats best for the team instead of himself. But Dray has done that over and over so I could see this working. It also lets Beal play his preferred role as a go-to scorer since he’d be playing with stars that are much more pass-first than what he was dealing with in Phoenix.

Steph / Beal
Podz / Melton
Jimmy / Moody
Kuminga / Dray
Horford / Post

Thats an insanely good shortened 9 man rotation (when Dray just splits center time and Post gets squeezed) with guys like Buddy/Post/GP2/Santos/Trayce providing depth.

Probably not going to happen though since that requires Kuminga signing, Horford signing, Beal signing, Melton signing, and Dray and Beal agreeing to this plan lol… but I do think thats a title contender for sure.

Even without Beal we're still in a good spot. Though we are relying on Melton to stay healthy for the whole year and a playoff run which is highly unlikely.

Ya i’d defintely settle for a backup plan of Morris or Payne if we can’t get Beal. And then keep GP2 as some Melton insurance.

[vvoland]

This stuff belongs in the trade thread: "Which team wants our bad players for their good players?" Sheesh!

For most of this board, S&T for JK, literally means, "which team wants our bad player for their good players?"

Would you rather get back 52M via Jalen Green (in year 1 of his 3 yr extension w/ a PO) and Dillon brooks for 20M for two seasons or:
JK (declining 3/60 with a PO would be the 'worst case', i think)
Moody (1st year of a 3 year value deal)
Buddy (9, with team friendly non-guarantees next year, i believe)
Podz (7M total for the next two seasons and full bird rights)
TJD (2), Gui(2), vet min (3) as expiring/young salary ballast

I understand I'm the only one that thinks JK belongs in the NBA and not China but, I think it's a no brainer vs brooks and green. Especially if I'm a team getting out of the superstar business and looking to rebuild.

Nobody wants to pay JK AND give us anything good. It's as simple as that. If it wasn't the case, he'd already be gone. So what do *you* think is the reason he is still here?

That wasn't the point I was making but it's a fair question. I think he's still here for the same reason giddey, grimes, et al haven't signed either - this is the worst market for RFAs that I can remember. After Austin Reaves got reamed during RFA, all of these agents should have taken notice. Let's just all be happy he didn't take the 5/150 we think he was offered last season, even if the last 3 years of that were team options.

JK, midseason, earning 15-20M, on a 1.5-2.5 year deal, is unlikely to be a negative contract. Not even saying he's a big positive contract, like Podz, but for salary matching, it's better than green at 30 or brooks at 20. IMO, of course.

Would you rather get the package above or what PHX got for Durant, as a way to get to 52M? That's all I'm asking here.

[vvoland]

You're reading into something that wasn't said. Nowhere do I say how valuable our picks are.

If Giannis says he only wants to play for GSW why would we give them every single asset that we have? Plus a Jimmy, Dray, Giannis trio has redundancy and it makes sense to ship one of Jimmy/Dray out just to maintain balance of the roster.

I inferred it from the "if giannis wants to come here from some reason." if that's not what you meant, I get it. My point was, if we actually want to pursue giannis, or anyone of that ilk, we have the trade package to compete with anyone out there. Even if Hou is ok trading amen thompson and future picks, we can compete with that package (and I don't think they're trading amen). Giannis doesn't have to force a trade to the dubs for us to be able to get him, just have us on his short list.

Buddy, JK (20M), Moody (12M) and Podz would get us to ~45M. We can find another 7M from a vet min + TJD and Gui. That's 52M of salary without one bad contract, 3 young players on team control, and one of the league's best shooters. Add the 28/30/32 picks and a swap or two and who's beating that package? Sure, SAS and Hou maybe have better young players but I think we have the better draft assets. I don't think SAS or Hou can get to 52M without including some problematic contracts, which we can avoid.

Leaves us with a rather short roster, especially if its' a midseason trade, sure. I'm just saying Giannis doesn't have to force his way here and we can compete on the merits with the best trade packages out there. We also wouldn't have to touch JB, Dray, or Steph to do it, from a salary perspective.

So you want to have a team of Curry/Richard/JB/Dray/Giannis with Gui/Post and a bunch of vet mins brought off the street in the middle of the year?

Rather than Curry/Buddy/Moody/Dray/Giannis with JK/Podz/Gui/Horford/Post or Curry/Podz/Moody/JB/Giannis with Horford/Gui/Post on the bench?

JB/Dray/Giannis all want to play the 4 but none of them can shoot. Why trade all of our depth when depth is needed and you can satisfy the salary matching with a single contract or 3 vs 6+. Then the bucks have to cut players so this doesn't even make sense for them to do.

Also how valuable is the 28 pick if Giannis is on the team? Maybe the 30/32 pick becomes valuable because Giannis probably asks out then when he's 35 and 37.

I do not want to do that, I'm just saying we have multiple ways to get to 52M without touching Dray or Jimmy. I doubt MIL would want either Dray or Jimmy, if moving Giannis. That's all I'm saying. Given the options, I'd trade Jimmy, as the salary match, keep the depth, and add picks. IF MIL says, no, we want all your young players and no bad contracts, we can actually do that.

Can we then turn Dray or Jimmy into 2-4 serviceable players (6th man types)? Not sure. It's what Miami got for JB when he was at his nadir but he's a year older and on an extension so...

[vvoland]

I don’t think trades for anyone worthwhile are going to be there… players like a Keon Ellis or Kispert or Herb for example.

If thats the case, I think dealing with the awkwardness and fit with Kuminga at 20m a year is better than a lesser deal just for the sake of getting him off the team.

The solve for that is Dray taking one for the team and pulling an Andre and coming off the bench. If we have Horford and Jimmy starting, that is a great defensive pairing to have with Kuminga in the frontcourt. Also it adds some athleticism and he can take a perimeter scorer defensive assignment to let Jimmy play free safety. Not to mention if Post proves worthy, having him pair with Dray will be much more successful than a Kuminga/Post frontcourt that lacks interior defense. And this doesn’t mean Dray can’t close, he can close for Kuminga, Horford, or Podz based on how they are playing.

Honestly, if we get Horford (and especially if we also get Beal somehow) this could be a really good fit FOR Kuminga… but again, it would take our 3rd best player and 2nd best Warrior of the dynasty to once again do whats best for the team instead of himself. But Dray has done that over and over so I could see this working. It also lets Beal play his preferred role as a go-to scorer since he’d be playing with stars that are much more pass-first than what he was dealing with in Phoenix.

Steph / Beal
Podz / Melton
Jimmy / Moody
Kuminga / Dray
Horford / Post

Thats an insanely good shortened 9 man rotation (when Dray just splits center time and Post gets squeezed) with guys like Buddy/Post/GP2/Santos/Trayce providing depth.

Probably not going to happen though since that requires Kuminga signing, Horford signing, Beal signing, Melton signing, and Dray and Beal agreeing to this plan lol… but I do think thats a title contender for sure.

Even without Beal we're still in a good spot. Though we are relying on Melton to stay healthy for the whole year and a playoff run which is highly unlikely.

As long as we get horford, yes.

Coffee and morris would be nice additions. I like melton but he has to be guard #5, not higher, with his injury history.

[Onus]

I don’t think trades for anyone worthwhile are going to be there… players like a Keon Ellis or Kispert or Herb for example.

If thats the case, I think dealing with the awkwardness and fit with Kuminga at 20m a year is better than a lesser deal just for the sake of getting him off the team.

The solve for that is Dray taking one for the team and pulling an Andre and coming off the bench. If we have Horford and Jimmy starting, that is a great defensive pairing to have with Kuminga in the frontcourt. Also it adds some athleticism and he can take a perimeter scorer defensive assignment to let Jimmy play free safety. Not to mention if Post proves worthy, having him pair with Dray will be much more successful than a Kuminga/Post frontcourt that lacks interior defense. And this doesn’t mean Dray can’t close, he can close for Kuminga, Horford, or Podz based on how they are playing.

Honestly, if we get Horford (and especially if we also get Beal somehow) this could be a really good fit FOR Kuminga… but again, it would take our 3rd best player and 2nd best Warrior of the dynasty to once again do whats best for the team instead of himself. But Dray has done that over and over so I could see this working. It also lets Beal play his preferred role as a go-to scorer since he’d be playing with stars that are much more pass-first than what he was dealing with in Phoenix.

Steph / Beal
Podz / Melton
Jimmy / Moody
Kuminga / Dray
Horford / Post

Thats an insanely good shortened 9 man rotation (when Dray just splits center time and Post gets squeezed) with guys like Buddy/Post/GP2/Santos/Trayce providing depth.

Probably not going to happen though since that requires Kuminga signing, Horford signing, Beal signing, Melton signing, and Dray and Beal agreeing to this plan lol… but I do think thats a title contender for sure.

Even without Beal we're still in a good spot. Though we are relying on Melton to stay healthy for the whole year and a playoff run which is highly unlikely.

Ya i’d defintely settle for a backup plan of Morris or Payne if we can’t get Beal. And then keep GP2 as some Melton insurance.

Really I think GP2 is done. He just doesn't have that juice anymore on defense and if you can't rely on him on defense it's time to move on.

[Onus]

I inferred it from the "if giannis wants to come here from some reason." if that's not what you meant, I get it. My point was, if we actually want to pursue giannis, or anyone of that ilk, we have the trade package to compete with anyone out there. Even if Hou is ok trading amen thompson and future picks, we can compete with that package (and I don't think they're trading amen). Giannis doesn't have to force a trade to the dubs for us to be able to get him, just have us on his short list.

Buddy, JK (20M), Moody (12M) and Podz would get us to ~45M. We can find another 7M from a vet min + TJD and Gui. That's 52M of salary without one bad contract, 3 young players on team control, and one of the league's best shooters. Add the 28/30/32 picks and a swap or two and who's beating that package? Sure, SAS and Hou maybe have better young players but I think we have the better draft assets. I don't think SAS or Hou can get to 52M without including some problematic contracts, which we can avoid.

Leaves us with a rather short roster, especially if its' a midseason trade, sure. I'm just saying Giannis doesn't have to force his way here and we can compete on the merits with the best trade packages out there. We also wouldn't have to touch JB, Dray, or Steph to do it, from a salary perspective.

So you want to have a team of Curry/Richard/JB/Dray/Giannis with Gui/Post and a bunch of vet mins brought off the street in the middle of the year?

Rather than Curry/Buddy/Moody/Dray/Giannis with JK/Podz/Gui/Horford/Post or Curry/Podz/Moody/JB/Giannis with Horford/Gui/Post on the bench?

JB/Dray/Giannis all want to play the 4 but none of them can shoot. Why trade all of our depth when depth is needed and you can satisfy the salary matching with a single contract or 3 vs 6+. Then the bucks have to cut players so this doesn't even make sense for them to do.

Also how valuable is the 28 pick if Giannis is on the team? Maybe the 30/32 pick becomes valuable because Giannis probably asks out then when he's 35 and 37.

I do not want to do that, I'm just saying we have multiple ways to get to 52M without touching Dray or Jimmy. I doubt MIL would want either Dray or Jimmy, if moving Giannis. That's all I'm saying. Given the options, I'd trade Jimmy, as the salary match, keep the depth, and add picks. IF MIL says, no, we want all your young players and no bad contracts, we can actually do that.

Can we then turn Dray or Jimmy into 2-4 serviceable players (6th man types)? Not sure. It's what Miami got for JB when he was at his nadir but he's a year older and on an extension so...

No team is winning the title changing their entire team in the middle of the season. Just basically throwing away one of Curry's last seasons.

[Onus]

For most of this board, S&T for JK, literally means, "which team wants our bad player for their good players?"

Would you rather get back 52M via Jalen Green (in year 1 of his 3 yr extension w/ a PO) and Dillon brooks for 20M for two seasons or:
JK (declining 3/60 with a PO would be the 'worst case', i think)
Moody (1st year of a 3 year value deal)
Buddy (9, with team friendly non-guarantees next year, i believe)
Podz (7M total for the next two seasons and full bird rights)
TJD (2), Gui(2), vet min (3) as expiring/young salary ballast

I understand I'm the only one that thinks JK belongs in the NBA and not China but, I think it's a no brainer vs brooks and green. Especially if I'm a team getting out of the superstar business and looking to rebuild.

Nobody wants to pay JK AND give us anything good. It's as simple as that. If it wasn't the case, he'd already be gone. So what do *you* think is the reason he is still here?

That wasn't the point I was making but it's a fair question. I think he's still here for the same reason giddey, grimes, et al haven't signed either - this is the worst market for RFAs that I can remember. After Austin Reaves got reamed during RFA, all of these agents should have taken notice. Let's just all be happy he didn't take the 5/150 we think he was offered last season, even if the last 3 years of that were team options.

Think these RFAs are looking at their draft class extensions and wanting that money rather than looking at their free agency class and taking what this free agency class is offering.

[vvoland]

Nobody wants to pay JK AND give us anything good. It's as simple as that. If it wasn't the case, he'd already be gone. So what do *you* think is the reason he is still here?

That wasn't the point I was making but it's a fair question. I think he's still here for the same reason giddey, grimes, et al haven't signed either - this is the worst market for RFAs that I can remember. After Austin Reaves got reamed during RFA, all of these agents should have taken notice. Let's just all be happy he didn't take the 5/150 we think he was offered last season, even if the last 3 years of that were team options.

Think these RFAs are looking at their draft class extensions and wanting that money rather than looking at their free agency class and taking what this free agency class is offering.

If Reaves wasn't warning enough, Jalen Green should have been. If you're not a clear cut star worthy of the max extension, it's slim pickings. The rookie extension starting at 25/30 per year that was virtually automatic is gone, seemingly overnight.

[HiRez]

It's a shame we have Kuminga and Giddey at the same point in their careers, drafted 1 pick apart, who are both RFA at the same time, and who both need a change of scenery and would probably be better fits on their new team if they were swapped, and there's no deal that can make that happen. If Chicago had picked Kuminga, we'd have Giddey or Wagner right now $*#@%

[vvoland]

So you want to have a team of Curry/Richard/JB/Dray/Giannis with Gui/Post and a bunch of vet mins brought off the street in the middle of the year?

Rather than Curry/Buddy/Moody/Dray/Giannis with JK/Podz/Gui/Horford/Post or Curry/Podz/Moody/JB/Giannis with Horford/Gui/Post on the bench?

JB/Dray/Giannis all want to play the 4 but none of them can shoot. Why trade all of our depth when depth is needed and you can satisfy the salary matching with a single contract or 3 vs 6+. Then the bucks have to cut players so this doesn't even make sense for them to do.

Also how valuable is the 28 pick if Giannis is on the team? Maybe the 30/32 pick becomes valuable because Giannis probably asks out then when he's 35 and 37.

I do not want to do that, I'm just saying we have multiple ways to get to 52M without touching Dray or Jimmy. I doubt MIL would want either Dray or Jimmy, if moving Giannis. That's all I'm saying. Given the options, I'd trade Jimmy, as the salary match, keep the depth, and add picks. IF MIL says, no, we want all your young players and no bad contracts, we can actually do that.

Can we then turn Dray or Jimmy into 2-4 serviceable players (6th man types)? Not sure. It's what Miami got for JB when he was at his nadir but he's a year older and on an extension so...

No team is winning the title changing their entire team in the middle of the season. Just basically throwing away one of Curry's last seasons.

I agree. That said, if we have a chance to get giannis midseason with the package above, I'd do it in a heartbeat, despite all the g-leaguers we'd have on the roster for the end of the year. Whether Giannis or someone else, that's probably our best package unless someone really wants jimmy or dray, which i doubt.

[vvoland]

It's a shame we have Kuminga and Giddey at the same point in their careers, drafted 1 pick apart, who are both RFA at the same time, and who both need a change of scenery and would probably be better fits on their new team if they were swapped, and there's no deal that can make that happen. If Chicago had picked Kuminga, we'd have Giddey or Wagner right now $*#@%

I'd pass on giddey. Someone that can't shoot OR defend isn't a great fit here. I'd rather take my chances w/ JK finding a way to fit w/ jimmy or getting us a player back at the deadline.

[HiRez]

It's a shame we have Kuminga and Giddey at the same point in their careers, drafted 1 pick apart, who are both RFA at the same time, and who both need a change of scenery and would probably be better fits on their new team if they were swapped, and there's no deal that can make that happen. If Chicago had picked Kuminga, we'd have Giddey or Wagner right now $*#@%

I'd pass on giddey. Someone that can't shoot OR defend isn't a great fit here. I'd rather take my chances w/ JK finding a way to fit w/ jimmy or getting us a player back at the deadline.

He shot 38% from 3 on 4 3PA last season, that's not awful at all — and it's about the same as Beal except Giddey would play a lot more games, has good size and positional versatility, and rebounds and passes well. Giddey has high BBIQ and elite court vision, things which Kerr should LOVE.

Don't get me wrong, Giddey wouldn't be my first choice, I'd rather target guys like Murphy or Avdija. But Giddey is available, they aren't, and I think the fit with Giddey and Kerr would be really easy. Kerr has made it crystal clear he doesn't like Kuminga ("doesn't like" is too weak, I really think he hates him on a basketball level) and will never give him the benefit of an on-ramp where he's allowed to make a few mistakes without getting shut down for a half, a game, a week, or a season.

I don't want Kuminga gone, but it's better if he goes, the sooner the better. He's never going to thrive here and I don't want to watch another season of passive-aggressive, dysfunctional BS between Kerr and Kuminga.

[EvanZ]

Chicago has Buzelis and Essengue. They have zero need for Kuminga at this point. In fact, he's going to be a terrible fit there too.

[TB]

There is no evidence that would say Giddey is available. Bulls traded Caruso for him, he played really well for them, and both the Bulls and Giddey have said they want to sign a new deal.

[Onus]

Chicago has Buzelis and Essengue. They have zero need for Kuminga at this point. In fact, he's going to be a terrible fit there too.

Where would he be a good fit?

[ChuckDurn]

Here’s my best-case scenarios….. actually, maybe also the most likely scenarios…..

Scenario 1:

Sign-and-trade to the Jazz, where he goes into the exception they created by trading Collins. (It looks like they did take the full trade exception of $26M, rather than use part of it to absorb Anderson and Love.) Warriors receive Clayton Jr. and one of the Jazz’s “middle” 1st round picks in 2027.
I think this allows the Warriors access to the full non-taxpayer MLE (someone can correct me), and if so, offer to split it between Beal and Horford, each on 2-year deals if they’ll take them
Sign Melton on the BAE or vet minimum
Would require a “roster-balancing” trade to follow (I haven’t thought about this enough), due to huge surplus of guards and relative paucity of combo forward-size guys. I wouldn’t be averse to including Podziemski or Hield in it, as well as draft equity.

Scenario 2:

Try to sign Kuminga to a “compromise” deal, 3 years, the first at $18M/year, and the third year being a player option.
Sign Horford with the TPMLE (assuming we can offer him the full amount and aren’t hard-capped in some way)
Sign Melton with the vet minimum

I’d be fine with either of these…… probably actually preferring the first, because we go pretty much “all in” for 2 years, and then have a nearly empty roster in 2027, with not only our own pick but a second one. Full rebuild at that point……

[AirP.]

What do people think we will get back in a trade for Kuminga if we sign him to $20M/year (which is where this is headed).

The interesting thought is, the more GS pays Kuminga, the more they can get in return for him in a trade this year, it benefits both parties to pay Kuminga. If Kuminga is wanting to bet on himself, he'll just sign a short-term contract to make sure he gets paid in case of an injury.

There is a point that his contract becomes a negative asset though.

Of course. But the more money you can send out, the more you can bring in.

If you get him on a very low contract, sure he should be a great value but you're only able to get so much money back in contracts or you'll have to toss in other rotation players to create salary.

Let's say you overpay, you might have to take a bad contract back and an asset you want, and you may end up with 2 rotation players, one you wanted and one you say it's not great, but we can use him. Maybe you add assets with Kuminga to get the player you want.

The point, however much you pay him, that's more than you're going to be bringing back, need to stack salaries with Kuminga for a player, now you're sending out more talent just to make salaries work. Of course, us fans aren't privy to all the talks MDJ has had with other GMs to know their interest levels and within those teams, how many teams may want to start going younger or cut salaries if their season goes wrong this year. MDJ should have a good idea what he could get, the bad part is he may have to wait until a few months into the season before he's able to make his move.

Plain and simple, Kuminga should have been moved last summer to get Curry some help.