With the 9th Pick, the Raptors select Collin Murray-Boyles!

[Basketball_Jones]

I remember Mase as this weird awkward enforcer built like a body builder that just pivot and pump faked and dove his way to the basket. Stats wise he did have some scoring talent too. Good comparison. Though I don’t see CMB as a big scoring prospect, you never know. I think he certainly has more potential there then Anthony Mase.

[raincityraptors]

If you think about it our team is slowly starting to get high IQ guys. Even weak link RJ has improved and is picking his spots a bit but ya he's on TB.

I'm liking this team, starting to get a bit more excited but still need to see more. Now we got more players to see grow organically.

Ochai isn't high IQ and I'm really unsure on Walter.

I'll vouch for Walter's IQ. Over time his game will too.

[VanWest82]

A defensive better BBIQ Julius Randle would be my target ceiling for CMB which would be a crazy player. Julius is a tiny bit bigger & more explosive but no where near the passer/defensive prospect

Yeah, somewhere in between Julius and Draymond. For the life of me, I can't understand the lack of excitement for CMB. He's our best prospect since Chris Bosh imo. (Bargs was once a good prospect in theory but the difference here is Bargs was always theory whereas CMB is all production).

[Nature]

I don't see the Julius Randle and Paul Millsap comparisons. Whoever we compare him to can't be an above average 3pt shooter.

[tsherkin]

I don't see the Julius Randle and Paul Millsap comparisons. Whoever we compare him to can't be an above average 3pt shooter.

Millsap wasn't when he hit the league. His first 7 years (in Utah), he shot 27.4% from 3 (over 113 attempts).

[mtcan]

I fully expect him to not be a complete non shooter by year 3.

Even Julius Randle was a complete non-shooter while in college and now he launches them with no conscious. He is at least a 33% career 3 pt shooter and he did have a career year in NY shooting 41% from 3.

So ya...CMB may never be Klay Thompson but he will shoot it to some degree and that a long with all the rest of his IQ and tools will make him a passable offensive player.

[dballislife]

he handles and drives to the basket a lot better than most big forwards....he weighs as much as centers, has inside game of throwback pf, and he drives downhill to hole like a bigger version of barrett...and then theres his elite defensive potential, i think he can be better than barnes on d, hes 20 and if his perimeter game develops at 25 man theres no telling how good cmb can be

[tsherkin]

So ya...CMB may never be Klay Thompson but he will shoot it to some degree and that a long with all the rest of his IQ and tools will make him a passable offensive player.

It's possible. But Randle is also highly inconsistent, and has like 1 good season from 3 in his entire career and it was 7 years before he managed that. He's not even consistent from the corner, so he's all kinds of capricious with his value coming out of that shot.

We'll see. There's the chance that he can develop enough that he won't need the three too much, and if he does develop even a Sheed-level 3, that might be enough to give him that extra punch.

[ArthurVandelay]

Lots of comps to Mason, Randle, and Millsap. They are good, don’t get me wrong.

I am very curious what CMB looks like with professional training and possibly an improved diet. Edit: I’m going on the ignorant assumption most young people don’t have the best eating habits…not everyone is Kobe refusing to eat McDonald’s n high school.

Like, what happens if he gets stronger and drops 5-10 lbs? Whoever made the Kawhi comp might not be far off.

[RoyceDa59]

I think we will be pleasantly surprised with this draft pick in a couple years.

[MEDIC]

I don't see the Julius Randle and Paul Millsap comparisons. Whoever we compare him to can't be an above average 3pt shooter.

Many sites say his closest comp offensively (NCAA) is Randle. Similar game. Similar size. The biggest difference is that CMB was a much better defender than Randle in the NCAA.

[mihaic]

A defensive better BBIQ Julius Randle would be my target ceiling for CMB which would be a crazy player. Julius is a tiny bit bigger & more explosive but no where near the passer/defensive prospect

Yeah, somewhere in between Julius and Draymond. For the life of me, I can't understand the lack of excitement for CMB. He's our best prospect since Chris Bosh imo. (Bargs was once a good prospect in theory but the difference here is Bargs was always theory whereas CMB is all production).

At this point CMB is theory too. I hope u r right

[Yallbecrazy]

Lots of comps to Mason, Randle, and Millsap. They are good, don’t get me wrong.

I am very curious what CMB looks like with professional training and possibly an improved diet. Edit: I’m going on the ignorant assumption most young people don’t have the best eating habits…not everyone is Kobe refusing to eat McDonald’s n high school.

Like, what happens if he gets stronger and drops 5-10 lbs? Whoever made the Kawhi comp might not be far off.

Do we want him to lose weight? He's really agile and has a very quick first step. I would just focus on making him even more explosive.
He probably had a good diet, had an older brother that plays professionally overseas and comes from a wealthy family so I'm not so sure diet was an issue. Girlfriend is also getting a few million a year in NIL money so is also a professional athlete so I doubt they're grabbing food from the campus subway.

[ArthurVandelay]

Lots of comps to Mason, Randle, and Millsap. They are good, don’t get me wrong.

I am very curious what CMB looks like with professional training and possibly an improved diet. Edit: I’m going on the ignorant assumption most young people don’t have the best eating habits…not everyone is Kobe refusing to eat McDonald’s n high school.

Like, what happens if he gets stronger and drops 5-10 lbs? Whoever made the Kawhi comp might not be far off.

Do we want him to lose weight? He's really agile and has a very quick first step. I would just focus on making him even more explosive.
He probably had a good diet, had an older brother that plays professionally overseas and comes from a wealthy family so I'm not so sure diet was an issue. Girlfriend is also getting a few million a year in NIL money so is also a professional athlete so I doubt they're grabbing food from the campus subway.

Fair points. More of a curiosity on my part.

His ultimate ceiling will be determined on how his 3pt shot develops.

[Clutch0z24]

I don't see the Julius Randle and Paul Millsap comparisons. Whoever we compare him to can't be an above average 3pt shooter.

Millsap wasn't when he hit the league. His first 7 years (in Utah), he shot 27.4% from 3 (over 113 attempts).

Yeah but to be fair Milsap only became an all star and a good player once he started shooting the ball better.....Before that he was a fringe starter....That is why CMBs game will be based on how that jumpshot improves over time.

[Los_29]

I don't see the Julius Randle and Paul Millsap comparisons. Whoever we compare him to can't be an above average 3pt shooter.

Millsap wasn't when he hit the league. His first 7 years (in Utah), he shot 27.4% from 3 (over 113 attempts).

Yeah but to be fair Milsap only became an all star and a good player once he started shooting the ball better.....Before that he was a fringe starter....That is why CMBs game will be based on how that jumpshot improves over time.

Not true, he was a great starter for Utah even before he started knocking down threes. 16/8 with good efficiency and excellent defense is a good-great player. Thats what he did in his last three years in Utah.

[Basketball_Jones]

Lots of comps to Mason, Randle, and Millsap. They are good, don’t get me wrong.

I am very curious what CMB looks like with professional training and possibly an improved diet. Edit: I’m going on the ignorant assumption most young people don’t have the best eating habits…not everyone is Kobe refusing to eat McDonald’s n high school.

Like, what happens if he gets stronger and drops 5-10 lbs? Whoever made the Kawhi comp might not be far off.

I’m always surprised at the lack of training they do have at the college level or prior nba. Jokic is like peak example. However, it’s there if you want it. Especially nowadays when everyone is a fitness trainer you can easily get on a regime. He does look in decent shape though, just not cut or anything like that. The biggest thing really is skill development.

[DreamTeam09]

A defensive better BBIQ Julius Randle would be my target ceiling for CMB which would be a crazy player. Julius is a tiny bit bigger & more explosive but no where near the passer/defensive prospect

Yeah, somewhere in between Julius and Draymond. For the life of me, I can't understand the lack of excitement for CMB. He's our best prospect since Chris Bosh imo. (Bargs was once a good prospect in theory but the difference here is Bargs was always theory whereas CMB is all production).

You like prospect CMB over Prospect Scottie ? Care to elaborate?

[Clutch0z24]

Millsap wasn't when he hit the league. His first 7 years (in Utah), he shot 27.4% from 3 (over 113 attempts).

Yeah but to be fair Milsap only became an all star and a good player once he started shooting the ball better.....Before that he was a fringe starter....That is why CMBs game will be based on how that jumpshot improves over time.

Not true, he was a great starter for Utah even before he started knocking down threes. 16/8 with good efficiency and excellent defense is a good-great player. Thats what he did in his last three years in Utah.

It took him a few years to start....Once he started he played well don't get me wrong....But his All star seasons started when he started shooting the ball well...He made his first all star game in Atlanta where he started stretching the floor out.

[Son Goku 25]

I'm surprised I haven't seen this question raised.

Do you all think CMB has a higher ceiling than Barnes? I read someone say he's the best prospect since CB4 which says a lot.