Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap

[JimmyPlopper]

Beasly replacement in Detroit?

I believe they signed LeVert so could be a little crowded in the backcourt

[AussieCeltic]

If he goes, hopefully he can take Niang with him

[DusterBuster]

The guy's name being "Wolveswin" should provide a clue.

The funny part is, this deal doesn't even make any sense for the Wolves...

How’s that. White has been like #1 target for Wolves upgrade at PG. now you know.

You completely gut your forward position. Cutting off your hand to save your foot.

[STAT_88]

I don’t get the Simons hate by the Celtics.

Dude is a high efficiency 20 point scorer (three seasons of +58% as the second/third option). Celtics are going to need scoring without Tatum.

Yea he’s bad defensively but he has Derrick White and Jaylen Brown next to him on the wing two really good defenders who can hide him some.

Maybe the Celts want to start Pritchard and give him a bigger role but I don’t know seems weird they want to ship him out.


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[ChuckChilly]

Trade him to the Lakers for Gabe, Maxi, and Shake.

[DusterBuster]

I don’t get the Simons hate by the Celtics.

Dude is a high efficiency 20 point scorer (three seasons of +58% as the second/third option). Celtics are going to need scoring without Tatum.

Yea he’s bad defensively but he has Derrick White and Jaylen Brown next to him on the wing two really good defenders who can hide him some.

Maybe the Celts want to start Pritchard and give him a bigger role but I don’t know seems weird they want to ship him out.


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Don’t think the Celtics hate him, they just don’t need him and very likely don’t want (or simply can’t afford) to resign him. They also still need to get under the second apron, so they’re canvassing the league to at least see who has interest, if not for now, maybe at the trade deadline.

Likely tho, Simons value is somewhere around Norman Powell’s.

[Sixers in 4]

I don’t get the Simons hate by the Celtics.

Dude is a high efficiency 20 point scorer (three seasons of +58% as the second/third option). Celtics are going to need scoring without Tatum.

Yea he’s bad defensively but he has Derrick White and Jaylen Brown next to him on the wing two really good defenders who can hide him some.

Maybe the Celts want to start Pritchard and give him a bigger role but I don’t know seems weird they want to ship him out.


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Don’t think the Celtics hate him, they just don’t need him and very likely don’t want (or simply can’t afford) to resign him. They also still need to get under the second apron, so they’re canvassing the league to at least see who has interest, if not for now, maybe at the trade deadline.

Likely tho, Simons value is somewhere around Norman Powell’s.

There is noone with cap room. It's hard to see a team trading and able to absorb his salary. it's more likely to me his part of a package for a more longterm asset.

[grindtime22]

I don’t get the Simons hate by the Celtics.

Dude is a high efficiency 20 point scorer (three seasons of +58% as the second/third option). Celtics are going to need scoring without Tatum.

Yea he’s bad defensively but he has Derrick White and Jaylen Brown next to him on the wing two really good defenders who can hide him some.

Maybe the Celts want to start Pritchard and give him a bigger role but I don’t know seems weird they want to ship him out.


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Don’t think the Celtics hate him, they just don’t need him and very likely don’t want (or simply can’t afford) to resign him. They also still need to get under the second apron, so they’re canvassing the league to at least see who has interest, if not for now, maybe at the trade deadline.

Likely tho, Simons value is somewhere around Norman Powell’s.

I think they have the ability to be patient if they want to. It seems most likely that we are looking at a step down trade if they trade him before the season.

The 2nd apron thing has pretty much already been accomplished. They are over now, but they don't have to be. They are only 300k over and they are carrying 15. Davison had his team "option" picked up, but it is still non-guaranteed. I wouldn't be surprised if they let him go soon, but they can take him into January seeing what happens and cut bait if they still need to shed part of his salary. Queta is only 1/2 guaranteed right now that becomes fully guaranteed on opening night. Seems very unlikely, but they also have that option.

[Scalabrine]

Phx for Grayson Allen

Boston sheds salary, Phx gets a Beal replacement

Booker and Green are the Beal replacements, no?

[DusterBuster]

I don’t get the Simons hate by the Celtics.

Dude is a high efficiency 20 point scorer (three seasons of +58% as the second/third option). Celtics are going to need scoring without Tatum.

Yea he’s bad defensively but he has Derrick White and Jaylen Brown next to him on the wing two really good defenders who can hide him some.

Maybe the Celts want to start Pritchard and give him a bigger role but I don’t know seems weird they want to ship him out.


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Don’t think the Celtics hate him, they just don’t need him and very likely don’t want (or simply can’t afford) to resign him. They also still need to get under the second apron, so they’re canvassing the league to at least see who has interest, if not for now, maybe at the trade deadline.

Likely tho, Simons value is somewhere around Norman Powell’s.

There is noone with cap room. It's hard to see a team trading and able to absorb his salary. it's more likely to me his part of a package for a more longterm asset.

I didn't say someone absorbing his salary. They're only 300k under, so single trade could potentially resolve the issue.

However, the Boston poster mentioned a good point that it's likely not a huge deal.

I suspect they're just canvasing the league to get an idea of who's interested in him, planting seeds for a potential deadline deal vs making a deal this summer. Any hope to get anything other than a equal expiring and maybe some 2nd rounders is via a team who's motivated to acquire AND resign Simons.

[Michaellam1987]

May be Simons to MEM for Cole Anthony + minor incentive?

[Michaellam1987]

or send him to UTAH for Nurkic + Love + minor incentives

[jbk1234]

More evidence this was a bad deal for Portland. If Boston wants to move Anfernee Simons afterwards that is straight up telling you they feel he has more value than Jrue around the NBA.

Or it means they don't want him.

[flranger]

Reality is no one wants: Simons, Sexton, Trent Jr, Anthony, Clarkson, McCollum, Poole, Porter Jr, Monk, Cam Thomas

These are all talented players, but the supply far exceeds the demand. Teams are fine to pay <10mil, but anything above that forget it there are too many guys just like them.

[dballislife]

Reality is no one wants: Simons, Sexton, Trent Jr, Anthony, Clarkson, McCollum, Poole, Porter Jr, Monk, Cam Thomas

These are all talented players, but the supply far exceeds the demand. Teams are fine to pay <10mil, but anything above that forget it there are too many guys just like them.

and the same reason why the league is down on guys like cam whitmore and even ace bailey to some extent...you know jr smith and nick young types that comes in a looks for their own offense...kinda like how jalen green is looking, i mean look at the final teams this playoffs, how many no defense chucker types played and was impactful?

[jfs1000d]

Well good luck to the Celtics on that. Nobody is trading anything of value for this guy.

The value Boston is looking for is reducing their tax hits.

Why would another team help the Celtics with that,unless they were given an incentive to do so? Guys who share Simons skillset comes in dime in a dozen, so if the Celtics are looking to use Simon contract to cut salary, they're going have to be willing to send out draft capital to do so.

Simons has talent and ability. You sit. Average 20'ppg and not have ability. That is useful for a team, especially if they want Simons to resign.

The talk on Simons is weird. He is on an expiring contract, still young, gets 20 PPG. He isn't a fringe nba player.


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[Larry_Russell]

The value Boston is looking for is reducing their tax hits.

Why would another team help the Celtics with that,unless they were given an incentive to do so? Guys who share Simons skillset comes in dime in a dozen, so if the Celtics are looking to use Simon contract to cut salary, they're going have to be willing to send out draft capital to do so.

Simons has talent and ability. You sit. Average 20'ppg and not have ability. That is useful for a team, especially if they want Simons to resign.

The talk on Simons is weird. He is on an expiring contract, still young, gets 20 PPG. He isn't a fringe nba player.


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Yes he is

[chrisab123]

Why would another team help the Celtics with that,unless they were given an incentive to do so? Guys who share Simons skillset comes in dime in a dozen, so if the Celtics are looking to use Simon contract to cut salary, they're going have to be willing to send out draft capital to do so.

Simons has talent and ability. You sit. Average 20'ppg and not have ability. That is useful for a team, especially if they want Simons to resign.

The talk on Simons is weird. He is on an expiring contract, still young, gets 20 PPG. He isn't a fringe nba player.


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Yes he is

He’s not. He does belong in the league in a rotation. Is he a real 20 PPG guy on a good team? probably not. He can’t play defense worth a damn. But given the talent in this league he does belong. He just might be slightly better than a JAG.

[John Murdoch]

Reality is no one wants: Simons, Sexton, Trent Jr, Anthony, Clarkson, McCollum, Poole, Porter Jr, Monk, Cam Thomas

These are all talented players, but the supply far exceeds the demand. Teams are fine to pay <10mil, but anything above that forget it there are too many guys just like them.

and the same reason why the league is down on guys like cam whitmore and even ace bailey to some extent...you know jr smith and nick young types that comes in a looks for their own offense...kinda like how jalen green is looking, i mean look at the final teams this playoffs, how many no defense chucker types played and was impactful?

I give props to Mathurin ..he was a chucker at 1st but Carlisle got him to play D or not get minutes at all and it worked so yeah . Unfortunatley thats a big reason why i dont wanna pay Reaves

[pcbothwel]

What would Boston/LAL give to the Wizards to get Boston below the 1st apron, and LAL out of the Tax COMPLETELY:

Boston In: Smart + Branham (Wiz) = $25.5M
Boston Out: Niang, Simons, Queta = $38M
- Boston cuts $12M in salary while getting back Smart for 1 last year

LAL In: Simons (Bos) + Jones (Wiz) = $30M
LAL Out: Vanderbilt, Kleber, Vincent = $34M
- LAL ducks under the tax, gets a solid scoring guard to compliment the wing playmakers, and gets out of Vanderbilt's contract to open up cap space next summer

Wiz In: Vanderbilt, Kleber, Vincent (LAL) + Niang, Queta (BOS) = $44.6M
Wiz Out: Smart, Dillon Jones, Branham = $29M
- Wiz take on $15M this year and 11M next year (Vanderbilt) for assets

What would be fair compensation to the Wiz, especially from LAL?