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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

Post#961 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Jul 9, 2025 8:08 pm

Guano wrote:Man fck that assistant coach from the hornets I want bron with Brown.

We basically just did a lil middle management shuffle.

Maybe with the east being so weak, and an improved bench, cause last years was trash, and a coach that the players aren't revolting against its enough to win 6 more games. Idk im skeptical.

But from just comparing the upgrades its hard to get super excited about moving from thibs to brown and Precious/cam to yabu/Clarkson(this move is better). Feels like we need more... Bron.

There was a Roommates podcast with Thibs where they were talking about how Brunson and Hart would go over to Thibs's house and just hand out over there. So I don't know about the huge "revolt" against Thibs. Honestly, I'm not buying it. I think it had more to do with Leon and WWW having more say in coaching decisions. In Brown's presser, the first thing he discussed was working cooperatively with the front office.
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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

Post#962 » by Guano » Wed Jul 9, 2025 8:12 pm

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Guano wrote:Man fck that assistant coach from the hornets I want bron with Brown.

We basically just did a lil middle management shuffle.

Maybe with the east being so weak, and an improved bench, cause last years was trash, and a coach that the players aren't revolting against its enough to win 6 more games. Idk im skeptical.

But from just comparing the upgrades its hard to get super excited about moving from thibs to brown and Precious/cam to yabu/Clarkson(this move is better). Feels like we need more... Bron.

There was a Roommates podcast with Thibs where they were talking about how Brunson and Hart would go over to Thibs's house and just hand out over there. So I don't know about the huge "revolt" against Thibs. Honestly, I'm not buying it. I think it had more to do with Leon and WWW having more say in coaching decisions. In Brown's presser, the first thing he discussed was working cooperatively with the front office.


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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

Post#963 » by GONYK » Wed Jul 9, 2025 8:23 pm

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Overall, this guy was pretty positive on Mike Brown. Said Brown will experiment and get young guys out there when he's searching to mix things up and the vets aren't getting it done. Will play a free flowing offense that emulates GSW as much as possible.

The most interesting tidbit is that Mike Brown might have had a directive to not take Huerter out of the rotation, which is why he couldn't play Keon Ellis more. The guy says that he doesn't blame Brown for the Ellis situation and that Brown wanted to start Ellis.

Brown won't have that luxury here. Besides, will be 10 deep with vets after we sign Marcus Smart or Trey Lyles, etc. I really don't see much opportunity for Daddies (especially), Kolek (unless there's an injury to our PGs), or Huk (he could see some time).

But the rest of it made him sound like Thibs light.


Thibs light, except this person is more collaborative, believes in a free flowing offense, doesn't mind playing small, likes 5 out, practices multiple times a week and will experiment with lineups?

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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

Post#964 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Jul 9, 2025 8:23 pm

Guano wrote:
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Guano wrote:Man fck that assistant coach from the hornets I want bron with Brown.

We basically just did a lil middle management shuffle.

Maybe with the east being so weak, and an improved bench, cause last years was trash, and a coach that the players aren't revolting against its enough to win 6 more games. Idk im skeptical.

But from just comparing the upgrades its hard to get super excited about moving from thibs to brown and Precious/cam to yabu/Clarkson(this move is better). Feels like we need more... Bron.

There was a Roommates podcast with Thibs where they were talking about how Brunson and Hart would go over to Thibs's house and just hand out over there. So I don't know about the huge "revolt" against Thibs. Honestly, I'm not buying it. I think it had more to do with Leon and WWW having more say in coaching decisions. In Brown's presser, the first thing he discussed was working cooperatively with the front office.


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It was top to bottom. Owner/FO/Staff/players. Thibs coached himself out of town being too rigid and stubborn. I love how the team turned around under him. I love his personality to a point. I never liked his coaching methods or his approach to the game as it is played today.

It's obvious the FO had issues. It's obvious the owner was involved because he has to cut the checks. It's obvious some of his staff has issues as they are staying. It's obvious that some players had issues because they spoke out.

We are on to Mike Brown now. I believe he will be more logical in how he goes about things. More open to analytics. More open to staff and players. More open to developing a team chemistry that includes everyone. Not 7 guys and GFY. There are no guarantees but, the team certainly peaked in February and Thibs did nothing to adjust. We needed a new HC. HOPEFULLY we got the right one. Thibs wasn't it.
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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

Post#965 » by Guano » Wed Jul 9, 2025 8:33 pm

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HarthorneWingo wrote:There was a Roommates podcast with Thibs where they were talking about how Brunson and Hart would go over to Thibs's house and just hand out over there. So I don't know about the huge "revolt" against Thibs. Honestly, I'm not buying it. I think it had more to do with Leon and WWW having more say in coaching decisions. In Brown's presser, the first thing he discussed was working cooperatively with the front office.


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It was top to bottom. Owner/FO/Staff/players. Thibs coached himself out of town being too rigid and stubborn. I love how the team turned around under him. I love his personality to a point. I never liked his coaching methods or his approach to the game as it is played today.

It's obvious the FO had issues. It's obvious the owner was involved because he has to cut the checks. It's obvious some of his staff has issues as they are staying. It's obvious that some players had issues because they spoke out.

We are on to Mike Brown now. I believe he will be more logical in how he goes about things. More open to analytics. More open to staff and players. More open to developing a team chemistry that includes everyone. Not 7 guys and GFY. There are no guarantees but, the team certainly peaked in February and Thibs did nothing to adjust. We needed a new HC. HOPEFULLY we got the right one. Thibs wasn't it.


I cant recall a thibs coached knicks team ever underperforming hope we can say the same about mike browns tenure here.
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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

Post#966 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Jul 9, 2025 8:39 pm

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It was top to bottom. Owner/FO/Staff/players. Thibs coached himself out of town being too rigid and stubborn. I love how the team turned around under him. I love his personality to a point. I never liked his coaching methods or his approach to the game as it is played today.

It's obvious the FO had issues. It's obvious the owner was involved because he has to cut the checks. It's obvious some of his staff has issues as they are staying. It's obvious that some players had issues because they spoke out.

We are on to Mike Brown now. I believe he will be more logical in how he goes about things. More open to analytics. More open to staff and players. More open to developing a team chemistry that includes everyone. Not 7 guys and GFY. There are no guarantees but, the team certainly peaked in February and Thibs did nothing to adjust. We needed a new HC. HOPEFULLY we got the right one. Thibs wasn't it.


I cant recall a thibs coached knicks team ever underperforming hope we can say the same about mike browns tenure here.


We should have been in the finals this season. It wasn't injuries this time either. We underperformed in the IND series and a lot of it was coaching related. The one time he expanded his rotation we won. He never went back to it. We went home.

It's my opinion that we played like shyt the entire playoffs honestly. Much of that was coaching. We barely beat DET. We got insanely lucky against BOS. We fell off against IND.

We will see how the team looks with a new HC and the same top 7 and three new bench players. Maybe they really suck and Thibs is a genius but, nothing leans in that direction.
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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

Post#967 » by stuporman » Wed Jul 9, 2025 10:53 pm

People can say all they want about issues that contributed to 'why' Thibs was fired but the undeniable fact cannot be easily argued away that if the Knicks win game 1, they likely win the series and there aintnoway Rose fires him after he gets the team to the finals.

The meltdown loss and resulting series loss was a blessing to Rose so he could get rid of him for 'all the reasons' without looking too bad. He still caught some flak from media and fans but most kinda knew that it was the right move even if it looked a little cruel after the success Thibs did have.

Brown may have more of a leash because he will 'cooperate' and not have the obvious downside many felt Thibs carried with his peculiarities. Although, he's not going to be able to fall too short of where Thibs brought the Knicks because that will look even worse so he has to get at least as far and look better doing it.
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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

Post#968 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jul 10, 2025 1:26 am

Guano wrote:
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It was top to bottom. Owner/FO/Staff/players. Thibs coached himself out of town being too rigid and stubborn. I love how the team turned around under him. I love his personality to a point. I never liked his coaching methods or his approach to the game as it is played today.

It's obvious the FO had issues. It's obvious the owner was involved because he has to cut the checks. It's obvious some of his staff has issues as they are staying. It's obvious that some players had issues because they spoke out.

We are on to Mike Brown now. I believe he will be more logical in how he goes about things. More open to analytics. More open to staff and players. More open to developing a team chemistry that includes everyone. Not 7 guys and GFY. There are no guarantees but, the team certainly peaked in February and Thibs did nothing to adjust. We needed a new HC. HOPEFULLY we got the right one. Thibs wasn't it.


I cant recall a thibs coached knicks team ever underperforming hope we can say the same about mike browns tenure here.


I’m with you, Guano.

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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

Post#969 » by spree8 » Thu Jul 10, 2025 1:42 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Guano wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
It was top to bottom. Owner/FO/Staff/players. Thibs coached himself out of town being too rigid and stubborn. I love how the team turned around under him. I love his personality to a point. I never liked his coaching methods or his approach to the game as it is played today.

It's obvious the FO had issues. It's obvious the owner was involved because he has to cut the checks. It's obvious some of his staff has issues as they are staying. It's obvious that some players had issues because they spoke out.

We are on to Mike Brown now. I believe he will be more logical in how he goes about things. More open to analytics. More open to staff and players. More open to developing a team chemistry that includes everyone. Not 7 guys and GFY. There are no guarantees but, the team certainly peaked in February and Thibs did nothing to adjust. We needed a new HC. HOPEFULLY we got the right one. Thibs wasn't it.


I cant recall a thibs coached knicks team ever underperforming hope we can say the same about mike browns tenure here.


I’m with you, Guano.

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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

Post#970 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Jul 10, 2025 1:44 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Guano wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
It was top to bottom. Owner/FO/Staff/players. Thibs coached himself out of town being too rigid and stubborn. I love how the team turned around under him. I love his personality to a point. I never liked his coaching methods or his approach to the game as it is played today.

It's obvious the FO had issues. It's obvious the owner was involved because he has to cut the checks. It's obvious some of his staff has issues as they are staying. It's obvious that some players had issues because they spoke out.

We are on to Mike Brown now. I believe he will be more logical in how he goes about things. More open to analytics. More open to staff and players. More open to developing a team chemistry that includes everyone. Not 7 guys and GFY. There are no guarantees but, the team certainly peaked in February and Thibs did nothing to adjust. We needed a new HC. HOPEFULLY we got the right one. Thibs wasn't it.


I cant recall a thibs coached knicks team ever underperforming hope we can say the same about mike browns tenure here.


I’m with you, Guano.

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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

Post#971 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Jul 10, 2025 1:47 am

spree8 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Guano wrote:
I cant recall a thibs coached knicks team ever underperforming hope we can say the same about mike browns tenure here.


I’m with you, Guano.

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You guys forgot losing to Indiana already?


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Re: Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach 

Post#972 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jul 10, 2025 5:19 am

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HarthorneWingo wrote:
Guano wrote:
I cant recall a thibs coached knicks team ever underperforming hope we can say the same about mike browns tenure here.


I’m with you, Guano.

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Thibs sucked and so do you!! :starwars

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Post#973 » by Ravenxvirall » Thu Jul 10, 2025 5:23 am

I think it’s kind of funny how important it suddenly is for the fo and hc to collaborate now. This front office originally hired a dude that’s known for his way or the highway (thibs) this front office went and spent big money on a guy thibs would never use (Fournier) this front office just signed their free agents this offseason before mike brown got here. Sure as hell doesn’t look like a lot of collaborating is going on lmao. No wonder brown stumbled over his words multiple times and mentioned working with Dolan. If collaborating was important for rose it would have happened before thibs got fired. This whole thing stinks. For what it’s worth I agreed the Knicks needed a new voice to head coach.
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Post#974 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jul 10, 2025 5:35 am

Ravenxvirall wrote:I think it’s kind of funny how important it suddenly is for the fo and hc to collaborate now. This front office originally hired a dude that’s known for his way or the highway (thibs) this front office went and spent big money on a guy thibs would never use (Fournier) this front office just signed their free agents this offseason before mike brown got here. Sure as hell doesn’t look like a lot of collaborating is going on lmao. No wonder brown stumbled over his words multiple times and mentioned working with Dolan. If collaborating was important for rose it would have happened before thibs got fired. This whole thing stinks. For what it’s worth I agreed the Knicks needed a new voice to head coach.

Power corrupts everything. Leon didn’t like Thibs freezing him out of the decision making process when it came to lineups and rotations. Leon must’ve been reading all of the suck-ass comments around here about how great he is instead of laying the blame at his feet for the lousy bench he gave Thibs.

Mark my words, if we’re lucky enough to get to the finals this coming season, people here will kiss Rose’s and Brown’s asses even though the real reasons will be (1) the improved bench, and (2) the weakened Eastern Conference due to Achilles injuries to major stars on competing teams.
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Post#975 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Jul 10, 2025 5:38 am

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Ravenxvirall wrote:I think it’s kind of funny how important it suddenly is for the fo and hc to collaborate now. This front office originally hired a dude that’s known for his way or the highway (thibs) this front office went and spent big money on a guy thibs would never use (Fournier) this front office just signed their free agents this offseason before mike brown got here. Sure as hell doesn’t look like a lot of collaborating is going on lmao. No wonder brown stumbled over his words multiple times and mentioned working with Dolan. If collaborating was important for rose it would have happened before thibs got fired. This whole thing stinks. For what it’s worth I agreed the Knicks needed a new voice to head coach.

Power corrupts everything. Leon didn’t like Thibs freezing him out of the decision making process when it came to lineups and rotations. Leon must’ve been reading all of the suck-ass comments around here about how great he is instead of laying the blame at his feet for the lousy bench he gave Thibs.

Mark my words, if we’re lucky enough to get to the finals this coming season, people here will kiss Rose’s and Brown’s asses even though the real reasons will be (1) the improved bench, and (2) the weakened Eastern Conference due to Achilles injuries to major stars on competing teams.


Wrong. We all know you hate Leon. Firing Thibs was correcting the original mistake of hiring him to begin with.
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Post#976 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jul 10, 2025 5:39 am

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Ravenxvirall wrote:I think it’s kind of funny how important it suddenly is for the fo and hc to collaborate now. This front office originally hired a dude that’s known for his way or the highway (thibs) this front office went and spent big money on a guy thibs would never use (Fournier) this front office just signed their free agents this offseason before mike brown got here. Sure as hell doesn’t look like a lot of collaborating is going on lmao. No wonder brown stumbled over his words multiple times and mentioned working with Dolan. If collaborating was important for rose it would have happened before thibs got fired. This whole thing stinks. For what it’s worth I agreed the Knicks needed a new voice to head coach.

Power corrupts everything. Leon didn’t like Thibs freezing him out of the decision making process when it came to lineups and rotations. Leon must’ve been reading all of the suck-ass comments around here about how great he is instead of laying the blame at his feet for the lousy bench he gave Thibs.

Mark my words, if we’re lucky enough to get to the finals this coming season, people here will kiss Rose’s and Brown’s asses even though the real reasons will be (1) the improved bench, and (2) the weakened Eastern Conference due to Achilles injuries to major stars on competing teams.


Wrong. We all know you hate Leon. Firing Thibs was correcting the original mistake of hiring him to begin with.

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Post#977 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Jul 10, 2025 5:42 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
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HarthorneWingo wrote:Power corrupts everything. Leon didn’t like Thibs freezing him out of the decision making process when it came to lineups and rotations. Leon must’ve been reading all of the suck-ass comments around here about how great he is instead of laying the blame at his feet for the lousy bench he gave Thibs.

Mark my words, if we’re lucky enough to get to the finals this coming season, people here will kiss Rose’s and Brown’s asses even though the real reasons will be (1) the improved bench, and (2) the weakened Eastern Conference due to Achilles injuries to major stars on competing teams.


Wrong. We all know you hate Leon. Firing Thibs was correcting the original mistake of hiring him to begin with.

Nah, I’m right and you need to go to bed!!!!


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Post#978 » by Ravenxvirall » Thu Jul 10, 2025 5:50 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Ravenxvirall wrote:I think it’s kind of funny how important it suddenly is for the fo and hc to collaborate now. This front office originally hired a dude that’s known for his way or the highway (thibs) this front office went and spent big money on a guy thibs would never use (Fournier) this front office just signed their free agents this offseason before mike brown got here. Sure as hell doesn’t look like a lot of collaborating is going on lmao. No wonder brown stumbled over his words multiple times and mentioned working with Dolan. If collaborating was important for rose it would have happened before thibs got fired. This whole thing stinks. For what it’s worth I agreed the Knicks needed a new voice to head coach.

Power corrupts everything. Leon didn’t like Thibs freezing him out of the decision making process when it came to lineups and rotations. Leon must’ve been reading all of the suck-ass comments around here about how great he is instead of laying the blame at his feet for the lousy bench he gave Thibs.

Mark my words, if we’re lucky enough to get to the finals this coming season, people here will kiss Rose’s and Brown’s asses even though the real reasons will be (1) the improved bench, and (2) the weakened Eastern Conference due to Achilles injuries to major stars on competing teams.

I’m not trying to start anything I just honestly find it funny that all the reports say this front office wants collaboration but they’ve really never done that and hired probably the worst guy for that in thibs but now suddenly it’s a huge deal. I mean y’all just made your free agent deals before you hired a coach but working together is important? Smell like puppet to me man. I don’t even dislike mike brown but damn.
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Post#979 » by rajajackal » Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:21 am

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Ravenxvirall wrote:I think it’s kind of funny how important it suddenly is for the fo and hc to collaborate now. This front office originally hired a dude that’s known for his way or the highway (thibs) this front office went and spent big money on a guy thibs would never use (Fournier) this front office just signed their free agents this offseason before mike brown got here. Sure as hell doesn’t look like a lot of collaborating is going on lmao. No wonder brown stumbled over his words multiple times and mentioned working with Dolan. If collaborating was important for rose it would have happened before thibs got fired. This whole thing stinks. For what it’s worth I agreed the Knicks needed a new voice to head coach.

Power corrupts everything. Leon didn’t like Thibs freezing him out of the decision making process when it came to lineups and rotations. Leon must’ve been reading all of the suck-ass comments around here about how great he is instead of laying the blame at his feet for the lousy bench he gave Thibs.

Mark my words, if we’re lucky enough to get to the finals this coming season, people here will kiss Rose’s and Brown’s asses even though the real reasons will be (1) the improved bench, and (2) the weakened Eastern Conference due to Achilles injuries to major stars on competing teams.


Wrong. We all know you hate Leon. Firing Thibs was correcting the original mistake of hiring him to begin with.

hiring thibs was not a mistake. thibs was our franchise superstar until we got jalen brunson. he just outlived his purpose and it was time to move on
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Post#980 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:28 am

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HarthorneWingo wrote:Power corrupts everything. Leon didn’t like Thibs freezing him out of the decision making process when it came to lineups and rotations. Leon must’ve been reading all of the suck-ass comments around here about how great he is instead of laying the blame at his feet for the lousy bench he gave Thibs.

Mark my words, if we’re lucky enough to get to the finals this coming season, people here will kiss Rose’s and Brown’s asses even though the real reasons will be (1) the improved bench, and (2) the weakened Eastern Conference due to Achilles injuries to major stars on competing teams.


Wrong. We all know you hate Leon. Firing Thibs was correcting the original mistake of hiring him to begin with.

hiring thibs was not a mistake. thibs was our franchise superstar until we got jalen brunson. he just outlived his purpose and it was time to move on

I think he deserved one more year with a beefed up bench and a severely weakened Eastern Conference. This was all about Leon taking control of the organization.

I would add that the younger players probably had a better shot at getting minutes under Thibs than Brown because at least Thibs was invested in their development having drafted them and personally worked with them on their development.

Brown, on the other hand, has no such connection with any of these players, including the ones we drafted a couple of weeks ago.

Finally, where will the minutes for these rookies and sophomores come from with 11 vets we will have on the roster?
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