2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5

Post #1102 » by **Wiltside** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 5:08 am

Rapaz wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Yup probably both Grant and Thybulle for the poo poo platter of Vincent, Kleber, Hachimura, and Milton. No Knecht or pick. A Cronin and Klutch special

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/3014806/2021/12/14/yo-where-is-joe-cronin-at-how-chauncey-billups-and-the-blazers-gms-lives-have-come-full-circle/

Cronin's always loved the Lakers. I've got this in the bag.

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Pimplinka strikes again baby

RexBoyWonder · Post #1103 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 6:38 am

Wiggins is type of guy unmemorable seasons are made from.

Just so meh

Bishop45 · Post #1104 » by **Bishop45** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 12:03 pm

Wiggins/40 year old Bron/Luka/Ayton sounds like the most uninspiring defense that I've never seen

Almost don't want to be the team that unleashes that on the league. Does Utah have another meh trade in them?

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1105 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 12:14 pm

Beenie wrote:

My only worry is Dejounte coming off that Achilles tear but if taking a gamble on him gets you Trey Murphy I’m down, I think Trey is super underrated

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1106 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 12:16 pm

Wiggins is dead to me after his piss poor effort on both ends, continuous gunning, and skipping the exit interviews.

Beenie · Post #1107 » by **Beenie** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 12:37 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Beenie wrote:

My only worry is Dejounte coming off that Achilles tear but if taking a gamble on him gets you Trey Murphy I’m down, I think Trey is super underrated

I think a good strategy for Mia is to call NO and poke around on Murray. They drafted Fears so see if they want to get off Murray's ugly contract for a lowball offer like Rozier and Jaquez or something like that.

Then open it up to discussing Murphy

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1108 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 12:54 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1109 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 1:01 pm

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You don’t sound too convincing Giannis

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1110 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 1:09 pm

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LeBrons Miami bound for Wiggins and Terry.

greg4012 · Post #1111 » by **greg4012** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 1:13 pm

Hoops3355 wrote:Grant would make sense for the Lakers for a salary dump. His value isn't league wide and he's getting PAID. I think he balls out on that squad though.

Dude has been one of the worst defenders on his team for years while also producing a league-worst rebounding rate among starting PFs in the NBA. I know he carries theoretical defensive upside from like 10 years ago, but I don't buy that he can/will flip the switch and suddenly play the sort of game that will complement Luka & Lebron. Rui is better at this juncture IMO.

As a perpetual laker hater, I'd like to see it tho. Tie them to paying over $100M to Grant over the next 3 seasons.

greg4012 · Post #1112 » by **greg4012** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 1:18 pm

Bishop45 wrote:Wiggins/40 year old Bron/Luka/Ayton sounds like the most uninspiring defense that I've never seen

Almost don't want to be the team that unleashes that on the league. Does Utah have another meh trade in them?

Now imagine Grant instead of Wiggins. The defense (and general hustle plays) would get discernably worse. LA would legitimately just be importing Portland's frontcourt from the first half of last season.

Portland had the 24th ranked defense in the NBA pre All-Star break. Both Grant and Ayton started the majority of games during that stretch.

Portland had the 4th ranked defense in the NBA post All-Star break. Grant and Ayton played in a combined total of ZERO of those games for Portland.

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1113 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 1:51 pm

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Post #1114 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 2:10 pm

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If Herro is worth 30 million then Giddey is well worth 30 million. Bulls acting real cheap here for a player that was carrying that sorry squad and almost got them into the playoffs.

greg4012 · Post #1115 » by **greg4012** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 2:17 pm

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Giddey is very mysterious to me still. His onball playmaking has always been his greatest strength. His 3 ball was one of the biggest questions, but he proceeded to have an encouraging shooting season at nearly 38% on 3.9 attempts per game.

BUT, his track record as a pull-up 3pt shooter is almost non-existent. He shot a respectable 35% on pull-up 3s last season, but on less than 1 such attempt per game. Over each season of his career, he has never even averaged 1 pull-up 3PA per game, and 35% was by far his high mark there.

A primary onball perimeter creator that isn't willing to let it rip when given space from 3 leads to a potentially detrimental build. Giddey does have some encouraging slashing ability that mitigates some of it, but is it enough?

Is his improvement from 3 even real or is it just a result of being extremely selective and low volume in a contract year? Passing up good looks on the perimeter is a killer for team offense.

Giddey needs to be a decent and willing onball 3 point shooter to be a value at a ~$30M per year contract imo.

greg4012 · Post #1116 » by **greg4012** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 2:19 pm

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MiamiLoyal926 · Post #1117 » by **MiamiLoyal926** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 2:34 pm

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Shhh… this does not help the “front office is trash” narrative.

EMC5466 · Post #1118 » by **EMC5466** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 3:33 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1119 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 3:58 pm

MiamiLoyal926 wrote:
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Shhh… this does not help the “front office is trash” narrative.

I don’t think anyones said that they were always trash and never good though. Over the last 30 years Wade is easily on of the best players the league has seen, if you dropped him into a game right now he might be cooked after 10 minutes lol, things can change drastically with time.

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1120 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 4:00 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
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If Herro is worth 30 million then Giddey is well worth 30 million. Bulls acting real cheap here for a player that was carrying that sorry squad and almost got them into the playoffs.

We need to jump in there and save them both from the back and forth, send him this way for Wiggins and then they can reroute Wiggins to the Lakers for a cheaper price than we’re asking if they want.