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Around the NBA 2024-25 - In Our Offseason, Vol. 1

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Post#661 » by KnicksGadfly » Wed Jul 9, 2025 3:36 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:This is kinda interesting because I can’t recall ever learning that an active NBA vet calling out a fellow NBA player who has hit free agent before. But here Patrick Beverly tells Quentin Grimes that “he needs to relax” when it comes to his $25 million per year contract demand.

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Hate to bring it up but it happened on the Knicks with Lin
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Post#662 » by BKlutch » Wed Jul 9, 2025 3:37 pm

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people don't rock with your guy because he'll talk it and not walk it.

it's frustrating when we see the high capacity but less than ideal output.

That's the type of player we never want to see on our team.
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Post#663 » by stuporman » Wed Jul 9, 2025 3:38 pm

If only Ayton cared about basketball like some people care about oreos he'd be an all time great...
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Post#664 » by cgmw » Wed Jul 9, 2025 4:41 pm

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BKlutch wrote:We could add up how much Ben Simmons made not to play, but I suspect although Simmons got more per year, Beale had more years. Whoever is the winner, it's an exclusive club.

At least Simmons was 6’11. I also didn’t buy the hype on him, but at least I understood it. He was doing freakish things for his size. Beal? One-dimensional scorers his size are a dime a dozen in this league. He was given a very long leash based on the Florida championships and the early Wall/Gortat playoff Wizards. Without that first contract from desperate/dumb Leonsis, no coach would have ever allowed Beal to shoot that much. Watching him drop 30 ppg on one of the worst teams in the league while constantly goofing off on the bench permanently dropped him to clown status IMO.

Pairing him with Harden (and Kawhi) under yet another desperate/delusional owner makes too much sense. IDK the Vegas odds to bet against the Clippers, but I’d take them.

If Beal were a serious adult/serious about winning, he’d go to Milwaukee and prove it. But he’s not. He’ll go to LA to bus ride in the clown car while soaking in the sun and spending his fortune on IG models. Do I blame him? No, I get it. But I don’t respect it at all. Clown.

Whenever I saw him play, I thought of him as Bimbo Bradley. That's how I always remembered he wouldn't be leading his team anywhere. As far as his going to LA, that would be delicious - seeing Lebron struggle to make the playoffs in his $55 Million year.

That’s the thing though, he won’t go to the Lakers because theoretically he’d be held accountable by Lebron and whatever influence the Buss family legacy still has over the franchise. If Beal goes to the Lakers it would be because he heard Lebron is leaving and the new owners DGAF. Otherwise he’s just there to party, collect checks, and fly under the radar enough to maybe get one more big contract. Clippers perfect fit.
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Post#665 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Jul 9, 2025 5:01 pm

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HarthorneWingo wrote:This is kinda interesting because I can’t recall ever learning that an active NBA vet calling out a fellow NBA player who has hit free agent before. But here Patrick Beverly tells Quentin Grimes that “he needs to relax” when it comes to his $25 million per year contract demand.

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Hate to bring it up but it happened on the Knicks with Lin

Right! Melo couldn’t keep his damn mouth shut because Lin was taking his spotlight.
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Re: Around the NBA 2024-25 - In Our Offseason, Vol. 1 

Post#666 » by KnicksGadfly » Wed Jul 9, 2025 5:38 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
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HarthorneWingo wrote:This is kinda interesting because I can’t recall ever learning that an active NBA vet calling out a fellow NBA player who has hit free agent before. But here Patrick Beverly tells Quentin Grimes that “he needs to relax” when it comes to his $25 million per year contract demand.

At 14:50



Hate to bring it up but it happened on the Knicks with Lin

Right! Melo couldn’t keep his damn mouth shut because Lin was taking his spotlight.


JR Smith, too. Not just Melo. I think it kind of goes to show that Lin's success was probably causing some weird dynamics in the locker room and people probably had problems connecting with him. There's a part of me back then that was shocked...it was like, damn, this dude was sleeping on coaches and about to cut from the NBA. If his skin color was different, does this happen?

But anyway, pretty sure those guys have all moved on and going back to your point, it's very rare that guys talk about each others' paychecks like that. I don't blame dudes for chasing the cash, really. IHart, I don't blame. When Yabusele moves on, won't blame him, either. Teams will dump a player like Ainge did to Isaiah Thomas after he poured his heart out for Boston. Love it when a guy like Brunson takes lower pay and I want to reward him back but if he asked for more, wouldn't blame him.
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Post#667 » by Wildcat » Wed Jul 9, 2025 6:24 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:This is kinda interesting because I can’t recall ever learning that an active NBA vet calling out a fellow NBA player who has hit free agent before. But here Patrick Beverly tells Quentin Grimes that “he needs to relax” when it comes to his $25 million per year contract demand.

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Funny. Cute even coming from a dude that will probably never touch the NBA floor again and if he does, he'll have to serve a 4 game suspicion right off the bat. So respectfully, Pat can go kick rocks.
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Post#668 » by stuporman » Wed Jul 9, 2025 6:54 pm

OKC better enjoy that title because errybody gettin paid over there, they may not be able to keep the 'deep' team that separated them from the rest of the league after they hand out all those contracts. Maybe with their stash of 100 first rounders they'll be able to keep the flow of cheap talent to fill out a roster because the cap situation is changing quickly for them.
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Post#669 » by Wildcat » Wed Jul 9, 2025 9:29 pm

stuporman wrote:OKC better enjoy that title because errybody gettin paid over there, they may not be able to keep the 'deep' team that separated them from the rest of the league after they hand out all those contracts. Maybe with their stash of 100 first rounders they'll be able to keep the flow of cheap talent to fill out a roster because the cap situation is changing quickly for them.


Ain't no way they're keeping I-Hart.
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Post#670 » by sol537 » Wed Jul 9, 2025 9:32 pm

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stuporman wrote:OKC better enjoy that title because errybody gettin paid over there, they may not be able to keep the 'deep' team that separated them from the rest of the league after they hand out all those contracts. Maybe with their stash of 100 first rounders they'll be able to keep the flow of cheap talent to fill out a roster because the cap situation is changing quickly for them.


Ain't no way they're keeping I-Hart.


It's going to be tough for any team to stay in contention for longer than 3-4 seasons at a time. Maybe that's a good thing...
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Post#671 » by Wildcat » Wed Jul 9, 2025 10:02 pm

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stuporman wrote:OKC better enjoy that title because errybody gettin paid over there, they may not be able to keep the 'deep' team that separated them from the rest of the league after they hand out all those contracts. Maybe with their stash of 100 first rounders they'll be able to keep the flow of cheap talent to fill out a roster because the cap situation is changing quickly for them.


Ain't no way they're keeping I-Hart.


It's going to be tough for any team to stay in contention for longer than 3-4 seasons at a time. Maybe that's a good thing...


Maybe. But maybe some of these contracts will be a bit more realistic. Hard to say I-Hart is worth 30 mil per.
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Re: Around the NBA 2024-25 - In Our Offseason, Vol. 1 

Post#672 » by Polk377 » Thu Jul 10, 2025 4:44 am

Devin Booker extended for 2 years at $142 mil. $71.5 mil a season is just ridiculous. Suns will be stuck in hell with the apron structure and only a 7% increase to the cap next season.
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Post#673 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Jul 10, 2025 6:52 am

Quite the extensions recently…
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Post#674 » by Wildcat » Thu Jul 10, 2025 11:46 am

This is a Booker move through and through. If you thought this clown was about winning, here's further proof that he isn't. Thank you, JB, for showing us what a ring means to you.
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Post#675 » by stuporman » Thu Jul 10, 2025 2:34 pm

When the team that owns your rights has turned into an absolute clown show and won't trade you because you are their franchise talent then I don't blame a player for getting all they can out of a no win situation.

If the FO was building something that can compete for a title and maxing your salary would inhibit that then I could see some credible criticism but they are wasting his prime, he won't get those earning years back.
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Post#676 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Jul 10, 2025 2:48 pm

stuporman wrote:When the team that owns your rights has turned into an absolute clown show and won't trade you because you are their franchise talent then I don't blame a player for getting all they can out of a no win situation.

If the FO was building something that can compete for a title and maxing your salary would inhibit that then I could see some credible criticism but they are wasting his prime, he won't get those earning years back.


Has he gotten max extensions every time? At what point does it become enough money? When does winning take precedent?

They were in the finals not too long ago. I get that it's a mess over there now but, they were a good team that was contender level recently. If it is so bad, why stay? Why make it impossible to trade you away?

At some point it has to be about more than money right? Hundreds of millions of dollars. No person needs that kind of money. If you wanna win, why not sacrifice some to help build a team or get traded to another one that can afford you?

It really is ridiculous to me how much money is spent on sports. It always was a lot but, we are talking about money that could solve global problems at this point. :o
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Post#677 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:29 pm

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Post#678 » by The KnicksFix » Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:51 pm

How is okc affording all this?!
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Post#679 » by stuporman » Thu Jul 10, 2025 8:00 pm

Presti is going to have to reply on his stash of picks and ability to find talent with them so he can keep a roster around his big 3 that can compete. It's going to be so hard to bring back all the vets so that cheap rookie contract talent is going to have to make an impact or it can be one and done for their title run.

Of course as a Knicks fans one and done would be more than enough to fill the existential void this Knicks franchise has cultivated in their fan base over the past 50 years.
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Re: Around the NBA 2024-25 - In Our Offseason, Vol. 1 

Post#680 » by rajajackal » Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:34 pm

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