ImageImageImage

Holy Offseason I Can’t Believe it’s July FA/Trade/Waiver Thread

Moderators: bisme37, Parliament10, canman1971, shackles10, snowman, Froob, Darthlukey, Shak_Celts

Gant
RealGM
Posts: 10,856
And1: 14,946
Joined: Mar 16, 2006

Re: Holy Offseason I Can’t Believe it’s July FA/Trade/Waiver Thread 

Post#1881 » by Gant » Thu Jul 10, 2025 4:45 pm

KeithSmithNBA‬

For those keeping track at home: Damian Lillard cleared waivers yesterday, as we knew he would.

Lillard is now an unrestricted free agent for the first time in his career.
bigfoot_cryptozoology
Head Coach
Posts: 6,246
And1: 5,574
Joined: Jun 21, 2002

Re: Holy Offseason I Can’t Believe it’s July FA/Trade/Waiver Thread 

Post#1882 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Thu Jul 10, 2025 5:07 pm

The Return Of Smartacus?

Read on Twitter
ddb
RealGM
Posts: 11,559
And1: 11,865
Joined: May 10, 2007

Re: Holy Offseason I Can’t Believe it’s July FA/Trade/Waiver Thread 

Post#1883 » by ddb » Thu Jul 10, 2025 5:22 pm

Dame to Boston. Simons to Utah for Kessler and 4 2nd round picks! Come on!
User avatar
The_Ghost_of_JB
RealGM
Posts: 22,535
And1: 18,602
Joined: Mar 04, 2010
Location: In a van down by the river.
   

Re: Holy Offseason I Can’t Believe it’s July FA/Trade/Waiver Thread 

Post#1884 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Thu Jul 10, 2025 5:27 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:The Return Of Smartacus?

Read on Twitter


Not sure why anyone at this point would want Smart back on this team.
*Insert witty signature here.*
Curmudgeon
RealGM
Posts: 41,433
And1: 24,948
Joined: Jan 20, 2004
Location: Boston, MA

Re: Holy Offseason I Can’t Believe it’s July FA/Trade/Waiver Thread 

Post#1885 » by Curmudgeon » Thu Jul 10, 2025 5:31 pm

I would. He defends. And I think Tatum and Brown would like to see him back. Simons for Smart doesn't save a huge amount of money, but neither does Simons for Vucevic.

At some point the Nets may clear their cap holds and have enough space to take Simons for nothing. That's my hope, although if that deal works it will be with about 10 cents to spare. It's probably a pipe dream.
"Numbers lie alot. Wins and losses don't lie." - Jerry West
"You are what your record says you are."- Bill Parcells
"Offense sells tickets. Defense wins games. Rebounding wins championships." Pat Summit
User avatar
The_Ghost_of_JB
RealGM
Posts: 22,535
And1: 18,602
Joined: Mar 04, 2010
Location: In a van down by the river.
   

Re: Holy Offseason I Can’t Believe it’s July FA/Trade/Waiver Thread 

Post#1886 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Thu Jul 10, 2025 5:58 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:I would. He defends. And I think Tatum and Brown would like to see him back. Simons for Smart doesn't save a huge amount of money, but neither does Simons for Vucevic.

At some point the Nets may clear their cap holds and have enough space to take Simons for nothing. That's my hope, although if that deal works it will be with about 10 cents to spare. It's probably a pipe dream.


Do you think JT and Brown liked when he lead the team with the most 3s taken and regularly shot like 3-14 from there? Does he even defend anymore? Smarts defensive rating was 116 last season which is considered pretty bad.
*Insert witty signature here.*
jfs1000d
RealGM
Posts: 28,004
And1: 14,820
Joined: Jun 25, 2004

Re: Holy Offseason I Can’t Believe it’s July FA/Trade/Waiver Thread 

Post#1887 » by jfs1000d » Thu Jul 10, 2025 6:05 pm

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:The Return Of Smartacus?

Read on Twitter


Not sure why anyone at this point would want Smart back on this team.

Salary reduction.

He has one year left. We would be able to reduce salary by $6M with the trade.

That allows us more flexibility .


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
jfs1000d
RealGM
Posts: 28,004
And1: 14,820
Joined: Jun 25, 2004

Re: Holy Offseason I Can’t Believe it’s July FA/Trade/Waiver Thread 

Post#1888 » by jfs1000d » Thu Jul 10, 2025 6:05 pm

ddb wrote:Dame to Boston. Simons to Utah for Kessler and 4 2nd round picks! Come on!

That would be awesome


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
celticgreenie
Junior
Posts: 483
And1: 376
Joined: Dec 12, 2011

Re: Holy Offseason I Can’t Believe it’s July FA/Trade/Waiver Thread 

Post#1889 » by celticgreenie » Thu Jul 10, 2025 6:11 pm

I have a feeling Brad might over value Hauser like he did with Smart.

Last season during training camp there were two opposing camps about the value of Lonnie Walker. I think coming off a championship there was hubris. He could have diversified our offense just enough (he's a walking bucket) so we don't blow those two big leads against the Knicks. He was a good playoff performer for the Lakers when they beat the Warriors a couple seasons ago.
jfs1000d
RealGM
Posts: 28,004
And1: 14,820
Joined: Jun 25, 2004

Re: Holy Offseason I Can’t Believe it’s July FA/Trade/Waiver Thread 

Post#1890 » by jfs1000d » Thu Jul 10, 2025 6:13 pm

celticgreenie wrote:I have a feeling Brad might over value Hauser like he did with Smart.

Last season during training camp there were two opposing camps about the value of Lonnie Walker. I think coming off a championship there was hubris. He could have diversified our offense just enough (he's a walking bucket) so we don't blow those two big leads against the Knicks. He was a good playoff performer for the Lakers when they beat the Warriors a couple seasons ago.

Hauser is paid $6m less than he is worth for that production and shooting.

He is on a value contract, like PP. you can't just get rid of him .


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
User avatar
The_Ghost_of_JB
RealGM
Posts: 22,535
And1: 18,602
Joined: Mar 04, 2010
Location: In a van down by the river.
   

Re: Holy Offseason I Can’t Believe it’s July FA/Trade/Waiver Thread 

Post#1891 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Thu Jul 10, 2025 6:38 pm

jfs1000d wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:The Return Of Smartacus?

Read on Twitter


Not sure why anyone at this point would want Smart back on this team.

Salary reduction.

He has one year left. We would be able to reduce salary by $6M with the trade.

That allows us more flexibility .


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


Since next year is a lost year anyways, I would rather watch Simons this upcoming year than Smart (if that is the trade you are thinking of)
*Insert witty signature here.*
WeLikeOurGuys
General Manager
Posts: 9,825
And1: 7,995
Joined: May 18, 2010
       

Re: Holy Offseason I Can’t Believe it’s July FA/Trade/Waiver Thread 

Post#1892 » by WeLikeOurGuys » Thu Jul 10, 2025 6:45 pm

Tillman and Simons
for Smart
Niang to the Jazz

The end of the day, I don't think they'll resign Simons, and they would have a better chance of retaining Smart on a team-friendly deal.

You would be about 680k away from the tax line.
itrsteve
Head Coach
Posts: 6,315
And1: 10,790
Joined: Nov 04, 2017
 

Re: Holy Offseason I Can’t Believe it’s July FA/Trade/Waiver Thread 

Post#1893 » by itrsteve » Thu Jul 10, 2025 6:49 pm

I'm not sure if I have the stomach to take in Smart on a retooling year.

Really intrigued by this Lillard thing. Normally I don't gush over declining star talent, but to get one who is largely subsidized by one of your conference competitors is provocative.
[quote=“dkb964”]156-1 Celtics are frauds when pressure is put on them. They would have been toast if Luka was not stupid enough to foul himself out. Enjoy this ONE finals win. There will never be another with the Js and the Celtics cant afford stacked team.[/quote]
jfs1000d
RealGM
Posts: 28,004
And1: 14,820
Joined: Jun 25, 2004

Re: Holy Offseason I Can’t Believe it’s July FA/Trade/Waiver Thread 

Post#1894 » by jfs1000d » Thu Jul 10, 2025 6:55 pm

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
jfs1000d wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
Not sure why anyone at this point would want Smart back on this team.

Salary reduction.

He has one year left. We would be able to reduce salary by $6M with the trade.

That allows us more flexibility .


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


Since next year is a lost year anyways, I would rather watch Simons this upcoming year than Smart (if that is the trade you are thinking of)

Yeah. Me too. But $6mz


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
User avatar
The_Ghost_of_JB
RealGM
Posts: 22,535
And1: 18,602
Joined: Mar 04, 2010
Location: In a van down by the river.
   

Re: Holy Offseason I Can’t Believe it’s July FA/Trade/Waiver Thread 

Post#1895 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Thu Jul 10, 2025 6:56 pm

jfs1000d wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
jfs1000d wrote:Salary reduction.

He has one year left. We would be able to reduce salary by $6M with the trade.

That allows us more flexibility .


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


Since next year is a lost year anyways, I would rather watch Simons this upcoming year than Smart (if that is the trade you are thinking of)

Yeah. Me too. But $6mz


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


Meh not our money anyways lol
*Insert witty signature here.*
redslastlaugh
Analyst
Posts: 3,001
And1: 3,672
Joined: Aug 13, 2011

Re: Holy Offseason I Can’t Believe it’s July FA/Trade/Waiver Thread 

Post#1896 » by redslastlaugh » Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:12 pm

Simons to WAS, Marcus Smart to BOS
Tillman & Niang to PDX, Rob Williams to BOS

"we're getting the band back together..."

WeLikeOurGuys wrote:Tillman and Simons
for Smart
Niang to the Jazz

The end of the day, I don't think they'll resign Simons, and they would have a better chance of retaining Smart on a team-friendly deal.

You would be about 680k away from the tax line.
Hal14
RealGM
Posts: 21,560
And1: 20,137
Joined: Apr 05, 2019

Re: Holy Offseason I Can’t Believe it’s July FA/Trade/Waiver Thread 

Post#1897 » by Hal14 » Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:16 pm

https://www.celticsblog.com/2025/7/10/24464596/brad-stevens-celtics-comfortable-with-roster-to-begin-next-season-boston-nba-summer-league

"Brad Stevens comfortable with roster to begin next season

The Celtics will continue searching for opportunities, but the current roster appears to be more or less what they’ll begin next season with."
1/11/24 The birth of a new Hal. From now on being less combative, avoiding confrontation - like Switzerland :)
User avatar
Shak_Celts
Forum Mod - Celtics
Forum Mod - Celtics
Posts: 49,901
And1: 63,441
Joined: Feb 07, 2016
     

Re: Holy Offseason I Can’t Believe it’s July FA/Trade/Waiver Thread 

Post#1898 » by Shak_Celts » Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:18 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:I would. He defends. And I think Tatum and Brown would like to see him back. Simons for Smart doesn't save a huge amount of money, but neither does Simons for Vucevic.

At some point the Nets may clear their cap holds and have enough space to take Simons for nothing. That's my hope, although if that deal works it will be with about 10 cents to spare. It's probably a pipe dream.

I want to know when people started caring so much about defense, when specifically talking about Simons.

I remember how I was the only one harping on how the second half of those nyks games were lost because someone was BBQ chicken every time down the court. They were out there but defended like they weren’t.

I was led to believe if you can score it can make up for defense, like IT4 and Pritchard. Even though Pritchard lacks offense and defense at times in the playoffs.

It’s not about whether Simons can defend or not, it’s seems to be because he’s not one of the faves! Anybody else that does well on one end are a god, others get nit-picked to death.

I haven’t watched many videos on Simons, people keep saying he’s getting traded, I don’t want to waste my time. I don’t know enough to say whether I like him or not. I do know him being a poor defender is being overblown because he’s an outsider (other things I’m picking up on).

Vuc can’t defend a chair, but we should trade Simons for him, in a supposedly down season? Not keep the 26yo with more potential to be better in q different environment? When we’re not even saving money??

Love Smart, but we shouldn’t be trading assets for him. Can bring him back for a song when his contract ends. Vet minimum stages at this point. If he gets more 26 season, congrats to him and his agent. He’s not nearly what he was when I watched him on the court with the Wiz and Griz, though injured a lot.


Not your post, but this thread in general.
NAME ON THE FRONT OF THE JERSEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(!)
Hal14
RealGM
Posts: 21,560
And1: 20,137
Joined: Apr 05, 2019

Re: Holy Offseason I Can’t Believe it’s July FA/Trade/Waiver Thread 

Post#1899 » by Hal14 » Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:23 pm

FWIW, I currently have us as the 8 seed:

Image

If we dump Simons and don't get anything good in return for him (like just cap relief and a cheap vet/young development piece) then I'd probably move us down a couple more spots..

Then we're what, like the 10 seed in the play in tournament? Mine as well tank towards the end of the season for better lottery odds..

But if we keep Simons or we trade Simons for a solid big, I could see us maybe ending up as like a 6 or 7 seed. So then probably not tanking and getting a pick later in the 1st round..
1/11/24 The birth of a new Hal. From now on being less combative, avoiding confrontation - like Switzerland :)
User avatar
Shak_Celts
Forum Mod - Celtics
Forum Mod - Celtics
Posts: 49,901
And1: 63,441
Joined: Feb 07, 2016
     

Re: Holy Offseason I Can’t Believe it’s July FA/Trade/Waiver Thread 

Post#1900 » by Shak_Celts » Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:34 pm

Hal14 wrote:FWIW, I currently have us as the 8 seed:

Image

If we dump Simons and don't get anything good in return for him (like just cap relief and a cheap vet/young development piece) then I'd probably move us down a couple more spots..

I hope the media says we’re going to be terrible too. Not saying you are.

I hope everyone lets them know they are lottery bound. I hope every word that comes out is saying how bad they will be!!

Time to activate the dog in jb, white, and the pups!! Like Brad mentioned, chip on shoulders!!


Let’s go! The hospital and IT4 Celtics were fun!


Spoiler:
Yes, I would have given those seasons up for championships, they weren’t that level of fun. Saying how fun they were without the chip. Last season wasn’t as fun as Hospital Celtics that almost took out prime LBJ!
NAME ON THE FRONT OF THE JERSEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(!)

Return to Boston Celtics