2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0

[CazOnReal]

would this trade be helpful to the teams involved?

Toronto in - Obi Toppin , M. Thybulle
Portland in - R.J. Barrett
Indianapolis in - Robert Williams

Can’t remember if I have crapped on this yet or not, so in the interest of being thorough, hard pass for POR.

RW and Thybulle. Zero interest in giving up that flexibility for expensive empty calories like Barrett.

No problem moving either guy, but only for something POR might want.

Flexibility to sign players to that free agency haven.

Portland.

[Raptors Realtor]

would this trade be helpful to the teams involved?

Toronto in - Obi Toppin , M. Thybulle
Portland in - R.J. Barrett
Indianapolis in - Robert Williams

Can’t remember if I have crapped on this yet or not, so in the interest of being thorough, hard pass for POR.

RW and Thybulle. Zero interest in giving up that flexibility for expensive empty calories like Barrett.

No problem moving either guy, but only for something POR might want.

Lol don't worry JRoy you've already replied, and so have I, but I'll also reiterate for sh*ts & giggles... we'd never give up RJ for that heap... Robert Williams has played 26 games total the last 2 seasons and 61 the past 3. Thybulle is a 1 trick pony (defense), and is a total no look/play off on offense.

You must have a bat signal for Portland related trade proposals lol

[JRoy]

would this trade be helpful to the teams involved?

Toronto in - Obi Toppin , M. Thybulle
Portland in - R.J. Barrett
Indianapolis in - Robert Williams

Can’t remember if I have crapped on this yet or not, so in the interest of being thorough, hard pass for POR.

RW and Thybulle. Zero interest in giving up that flexibility for expensive empty calories like Barrett.

No problem moving either guy, but only for something POR might want.

Lol don't worry JRoy you've already replied, and so have I, but I'll also reiterate for sh*ts & giggles... we'd never give up RJ for that heap... Robert Williams has played 26 games total the last 2 seasons and 61 the past 3. Thybulle is a 1 trick pony (defense), and is a total no look/play off on offense.

You must have a bat signal for Portland related trade proposals lol

I don’t blame you for not wanting that deal either.

MT shot almost 44% on 3s this past year, so he can hit them. Small sample size of course.

RJ is more of an on ball guy. He’s like a higher volume Evan Turner. Those guys aren’t much good off the ball and not good enough handling the ball to justify their usage.

Empty calories.

Edit; I have a spider sense for Blazer-related posts

[Rapsfan07]

Don't think it makes sense to trade RJ right now.

There isn't a single team that's in a position to give enough value for it to make sense moving him.

Looking around the league, you'd be looking at taking on multi-year contracts for mediocre picks or worse players that are expiring. In a year where we are theoretically looking to push into the playoffs, I'd rather give Barrett a chance to run a full season with this IQ/Ingram/Barnes core and see what we got.

Push comes to shove, you can look at moving him as an expiring next season unless a deal you can't refuse comes along.

[Psubs]

Don't think it makes sense to trade RJ right now.

There isn't a single team that's in a position to give enough value for it to make sense moving him.

Looking around the league, you'd be looking at taking on multi-year contracts for mediocre picks or worse players that are expiring. In a year where we are theoretically looking to push into the playoffs, I'd rather give Barrett a chance to run a full season with this IQ/Ingram/Barnes core and see what we got.

Push comes to shove, you can look at moving him as an expiring next season unless a deal you can't refuse comes along.

I read that the Lakers might want to do a consolidation trade.

Lakers trade: Dalton Knecht, Jared Vanderbilt and Gabe Vincent (waive or flip in a trade)

Toronto trades: RJ Barrett

[Raptors Realtor]

Don't think it makes sense to trade RJ right now.

There isn't a single team that's in a position to give enough value for it to make sense moving him.

Looking around the league, you'd be looking at taking on multi-year contracts for mediocre picks or worse players that are expiring. In a year where we are theoretically looking to push into the playoffs, I'd rather give Barrett a chance to run a full season with this IQ/Ingram/Barnes core and see what we got.

Push comes to shove, you can look at moving him as an expiring next season unless a deal you can't refuse comes along.

I read that the Lakers might want to do a consolidation trade.

Lakers trade: Dalton Knecht, Jared Vanderbilt and Gabe Vincent (waive or flip in a trade)

Toronto trades: RJ Barrett

Don't think that deal would make sense for the Raps... The best asset is Knecht, but we already have Dick and Walter at SG. Vanderbilt also plays a position we have a lot of depth at with Scottie, CMB and Mogbo... Would definitely rather hold onto RJ.

[Yallbecrazy]

I don't see RJ getting traded this season unless Raps get a really good offer and his value just isn't high enough currently.

[Tripod]

RJ should only be moved if it's for an upgrade or unless it's a deal to fill a hole...and we don't really have one right now.

Edwards, Wagner, Cade, JWill are the only guys younger than him that had a better PPG. We will miss his scoring in games BI and Barnes miss if we just move him for little in return.

[Morris_Shatford]

I am not opposed to waiting on seeing how healthy BI is going to be before we consider jettisoning RJ;
However if we do, I would imagine its going to be a deal which breaks him into two MLE sized contracts which become easier to move later in the season. I am not expecting too much.

[causal_fan]

I'm not opposed to trading RJ or anyone on the Raptors but I think RJ is going to be the best player on the Raptors this coming season, so trading him for peanuts as some are inclined to do is going to come back to haunt the franchise similar to the Pascal deal.

[YogurtProducer]

I'm not opposed to trading RJ or anyone on the Raptors but I think RJ is going to be the best player on the Raptors this coming season, so trading him for peanuts as some are inclined to do is going to come back to haunt the franchise similar to the Pascal deal.

RJ would need to take a hell of a leap to be our best guy.

As of now he’s like 5th.

[Rapsfan07]

I'm not opposed to trading RJ or anyone on the Raptors but I think RJ is going to be the best player on the Raptors this coming season, so trading him for peanuts as some are inclined to do is going to come back to haunt the franchise similar to the Pascal deal.

RJ would need to take a hell of a leap to be our best guy.

As of now he’s like 5th.

Sorry but who's clearly better than RJ? Only players I have clearly better than him are Ingram and Barnes and even Barnes looks like he's struggling to put the ball in the hole on most nights.

Quickley doesn't do much if his 3 isn't dropping. Poetlt is...fine.

Obviously there's more to the sport than scoring but at the end of the day, the team who wins the game is the team with the most points on the board.

[YogurtProducer]

I'm not opposed to trading RJ or anyone on the Raptors but I think RJ is going to be the best player on the Raptors this coming season, so trading him for peanuts as some are inclined to do is going to come back to haunt the franchise similar to the Pascal deal.

RJ would need to take a hell of a leap to be our best guy.

As of now he’s like 5th.

Sorry but who's clearly better than RJ? Only players I have clearly better than him are Ingram and Barnes and even Barnes looks like he's struggling to put the ball in the hole on most nights.

Quickley doesn't do much if his 3 isn't dropping. Poetlt is...fine.

Obviously there's more to the sport than scoring but at the end of the day, the team who wins the game is the team with the most points on the board.

IQ is just better as he’s more efficient and better defensively.

Poeltl just does more things conductive to winning basketball games. He’s better on D than RJ is on O.

[Psubs]

I don't see RJ getting traded this season unless Raps get a really good offer and his value just isn't high enough currently.

It's a lot higher than he was as a Knick but he's still empty stats that can't hit FT's.

[mihaic]

RJ would need to take a hell of a leap to be our best guy.

As of now he’s like 5th.

Sorry but who's clearly better than RJ? Only players I have clearly better than him are Ingram and Barnes and even Barnes looks like he's struggling to put the ball in the hole on most nights.

Quickley doesn't do much if his 3 isn't dropping. Poetlt is...fine.

Obviously there's more to the sport than scoring but at the end of the day, the team who wins the game is the team with the most points on the board.

IQ is just better as he’s more efficient and better defensively.

Poeltl just does more things conductive to winning basketball games. He’s better on D than RJ is on O.

I am not sold on IQ. He didn't show anything in t.o. yet. He didn't look better.

I hope he turns it around. He needs to.

[Rapsfan07]

RJ would need to take a hell of a leap to be our best guy.

As of now he’s like 5th.

Sorry but who's clearly better than RJ? Only players I have clearly better than him are Ingram and Barnes and even Barnes looks like he's struggling to put the ball in the hole on most nights.

Quickley doesn't do much if his 3 isn't dropping. Poetlt is...fine.

Obviously there's more to the sport than scoring but at the end of the day, the team who wins the game is the team with the most points on the board.

IQ is just better as he’s more efficient and better defensively.

Poeltl just does more things conductive to winning basketball games. He’s better on D than RJ is on O.

Barrett was more efficient than Quickley this past year. Defensively they're about the same to me but Barrett had the better offensive game. Quickley just shoots 3s.

The Poeltl thing I'll give you though - his effect is no joke but again, you don't get points for the baskets you prevent. You get em for the baskets you score.

[YogurtProducer]

Sorry but who's clearly better than RJ? Only players I have clearly better than him are Ingram and Barnes and even Barnes looks like he's struggling to put the ball in the hole on most nights.

Quickley doesn't do much if his 3 isn't dropping. Poetlt is...fine.

Obviously there's more to the sport than scoring but at the end of the day, the team who wins the game is the team with the most points on the board.

IQ is just better as he’s more efficient and better defensively.

Poeltl just does more things conductive to winning basketball games. He’s better on D than RJ is on O.

Barrett was more efficient than Quickley this past year. Defensively they're about the same to me but Barrett had the better offensive game. Quickley just shoots 3s.

The Poeltl thing I'll give you though - his effect is no joke but again, you don't get points for the baskets you prevent. You get em for the baskets you score.

Barrett 54.7TS
Quickley 57.0TS

So no, he wasn’t more efficient. IQ also averages more assists and less turnovers. Also IQ has a great floater game and shoots a higher % from everywhere on the floor.

IQ also was known as a plus defender before his time here whereas RJ was not. We can’t really judge IQs defence based on 33 games where he was in and out of the lineup.

And no, you dont get points for baskets you prevent, but preventing the other team from scoring a basket is as impactful as scoring one yourself.

[Los_29]

IQ is just better as he’s more efficient and better defensively.

Poeltl just does more things conductive to winning basketball games. He’s better on D than RJ is on O.

Barrett was more efficient than Quickley this past year. Defensively they're about the same to me but Barrett had the better offensive game. Quickley just shoots 3s.

The Poeltl thing I'll give you though - his effect is no joke but again, you don't get points for the baskets you prevent. You get em for the baskets you score.

Barrett 54.7TS
Quickley 57.0TS

So no, he wasn’t more efficient. IQ also averages more assists and less turnovers. Also IQ has a great floater game and shoots a higher % from everywhere on the floor.

IQ also was known as a plus defender before his time here whereas RJ was not. We can’t really judge IQs defence based on 33 games where he was in and out of the lineup.

And no, you dont get points for baskets you prevent, but preventing the other team from scoring a basket is as impactful as scoring one yourself.

It’s really a shame how people have forgotten how good IQ is. He was fantastic in New York and has had great moments with us. Just unfortunately hasn’t stayed healthy and been on teams trying to lose so team was in no rush to play him.

[YogurtProducer]

Barrett was more efficient than Quickley this past year. Defensively they're about the same to me but Barrett had the better offensive game. Quickley just shoots 3s.

The Poeltl thing I'll give you though - his effect is no joke but again, you don't get points for the baskets you prevent. You get em for the baskets you score.

Barrett 54.7TS
Quickley 57.0TS

So no, he wasn’t more efficient. IQ also averages more assists and less turnovers. Also IQ has a great floater game and shoots a higher % from everywhere on the floor.

IQ also was known as a plus defender before his time here whereas RJ was not. We can’t really judge IQs defence based on 33 games where he was in and out of the lineup.

And no, you dont get points for baskets you prevent, but preventing the other team from scoring a basket is as impactful as scoring one yourself.

It’s really a shame how people have forgotten how good IQ is. He was fantastic in New York and has had great moments with us. Just unfortunately hasn’t stayed healthy and been on teams trying to lose so team was in no rush to play him.

And lazy analysis “all he does is shoot 3’s” ignores a lot of his game.

If IQ only shoots 3’s, then all RJ does is drive and miss free throws.

[PushDaRock]

I'm not sure why we are pitting them against each other anyways, both bring different elements to the team that are needed right now and I still think both have some untapped potential left where they can refine some things in their game to take a jump. RJ with a bit less USG where he can pick his spots more and improving his FT shooting would make for a nice jump in efficiency for him likely at least to league average. IQ getting his rim finishing back to how it normally is and a small uptick in his volume 3 point shooting should comfortably get him to above league average efficiency.