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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#101 » by strokerace » Thu Jul 10, 2025 2:52 pm

With Luke, Porzingis, and likely Horford gone, the Celtics really need at least 1 guy to play the 5 and Simons is the most logical player to move. Right now Queta is probably the starting center.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#102 » by itrsteve » Thu Jul 10, 2025 3:04 pm

STAT_88 wrote:I don’t get the Simons hate by the Celtics.


I don't hate him and think it was an awesome pick up given the circumstance.

But I get it, they're bound to these trades where 75% salary has to come back since there wasn't a team willing to absorb Jrue into cap space. So a two-step deal makes sense given CBA limitations (trade Jrue for somebody ~75% cheaper, then trade Simons for somebody ~75% cheaper).

They'd still be crazy not to see what his market value is considering he's a middle-class & expiring contract. Every front office is having to do weird cap maneuvering so you never know.

I still hope he suits up in Boston, I've always liked his game.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#103 » by Curmudgeon » Thu Jul 10, 2025 3:56 pm

If Basketball was like football, with 5 guys to play offense and a different 5 guys to play defense, he would have been a great pickup.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#104 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Jul 10, 2025 4:43 pm

strokerace wrote:With Luke, Porzingis, and likely Horford gone, the Celtics really need at least 1 guy to play the 5 and Simons is the most logical player to move. Right now Queta is probably the starting center.
They have Queta, Tillman, Garza, and Amari Williams. Celtics probably not adding anymore players at the 5.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#105 » by basketballRob » Thu Jul 10, 2025 5:06 pm

Michaellam1987 wrote:or send him to UTAH for Nurkic + Love + minor incentives
Why would Utah do that? They just got rid of Sexton, who may have been better.

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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#106 » by magee » Thu Jul 10, 2025 5:12 pm

John Murdoch wrote:Beasly replacement in Detroit?


That's a healthy Jaden Ivey and Duncan Robinson. Ivey's shooting splits in his last ten games before he broke his leg, especially from 3, are pretty good.

46.0/45.5/77.3 is pretty solid. His Free Throw Rate isn't great, hence the low FT%, but those FG% numbers are why the Pistons were good with letting THJ walk and acquiring Robinson, who has a little more size than Beasley.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#107 » by John Murdoch » Thu Jul 10, 2025 5:57 pm

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John Murdoch wrote:Beasly replacement in Detroit?


That's a healthy Jaden Ivey and Duncan Robinson. Ivey's shooting splits in his last ten games before he broke his leg, especially from 3, are pretty good.

46.0/45.5/77.3 is pretty solid. His Free Throw Rate isn't great, hence the low FT%, but those FG% numbers are why the Pistons were good with letting THJ walk and acquiring Robinson, who has a little more size than Beasley.


At the same time they made that run without Ivey..
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#108 » by strokerace » Thu Jul 10, 2025 6:30 pm

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strokerace wrote:With Luke, Porzingis, and likely Horford gone, the Celtics really need at least 1 guy to play the 5 and Simons is the most logical player to move. Right now Queta is probably the starting center.
They have Queta, Tillman, Garza, and Amari Williams. Celtics probably not adding anymore players at the 5.

None of those guys are starting center position players. Queta and possibly Garza should be backups at best.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#109 » by Celts17Pride » Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:26 pm

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strokerace wrote:With Luke, Porzingis, and likely Horford gone, the Celtics really need at least 1 guy to play the 5 and Simons is the most logical player to move. Right now Queta is probably the starting center.
They have Queta, Tillman, Garza, and Amari Williams. Celtics probably not adding anymore players at the 5.

Guarantee you the Celtics will be adding another big before the season starts.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#110 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:52 pm

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JujitsuFlip wrote:
strokerace wrote:With Luke, Porzingis, and likely Horford gone, the Celtics really need at least 1 guy to play the 5 and Simons is the most logical player to move. Right now Queta is probably the starting center.
They have Queta, Tillman, Garza, and Amari Williams. Celtics probably not adding anymore players at the 5.

Guarantee you the Celtics will be adding another big before the season starts.

In a gap year. With 15 players already on standard deals. $331k below the 2nd apron.

I would almost guarantee the Celtics do not add another big before the season starts.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#111 » by phanman » Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:09 pm

Unfortunately there aren't any teams that need undersized, no defense playing SG even if he can get hot offensively. Especially one with a 25.8m price tag even if he's an expiring contract. With Orlando picking up Bane, there isn't a market for him as evidenced by Portland picking up Jrue's 3 guaranteed years to get off him.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#112 » by bonita_the_frog » Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:14 pm

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Wolveswin wrote:Tough to make salary work and need to wait until Simons can be aggregated, but…

White/Simons for Randle/DDV/Conley

Celtics need to add some value.



Boston doesnt want Randle and their not giving up White for this haul. White is almost untouchable.

Randle has the best fade-away jump shot in the NBA, and Boston need that for when their 3-pointers fail.
Randle gives them versatility, and someone who can create their own shot, which most of the Celtics can't.
And DiVincenzo fits nicely into Boston's offense too.
Its an excellent trade for Boston and Minnesota.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#113 » by ArksNetsSince99 » Thu Jul 10, 2025 11:04 pm

Froob wrote:
ball_takes23 wrote:Phx for Grayson Allen

Boston sheds salary, Phx gets a Beal replacement

Grayson Allen on the Celtics is perfect in so many ways. People would hate him more than ever.


He’s perfect for Boston , he would be like James Coughlin from the movie "The Town " he even looks like him
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#114 » by ShouldaPaidBG » Thu Jul 10, 2025 11:24 pm

They can have Vuc but then the Bulls would have to trade Simons' clone Coby White. Coby is only making 7m so it would be easier.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#115 » by jfs1000d » Thu Jul 10, 2025 11:25 pm

strokerace wrote:With Luke, Porzingis, and likely Horford gone, the Celtics really need at least 1 guy to play the 5 and Simons is the most logical player to move. Right now Queta is probably the starting center.

Garza or go small with Niang would be my guess


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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#116 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Jul 11, 2025 12:32 am

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JujitsuFlip wrote:They have Queta, Tillman, Garza, and Amari Williams. Celtics probably not adding anymore players at the 5.

Guarantee you the Celtics will be adding another big before the season starts.

In a gap year. With 15 players already on standard deals. $331k below the 2nd apron.

I would almost guarantee the Celtics do not add another big before the season starts.

Two of the Celtics 15 roster spots are unguaranteed. They have an obvious hole at center, they will fill it. May be someone like Charles Bassey or some other vet min, but they will get another big man.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#117 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jul 11, 2025 1:16 am

Celts17Pride wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:Guarantee you the Celtics will be adding another big before the season starts.

In a gap year. With 15 players already on standard deals. $331k below the 2nd apron.

I would almost guarantee the Celtics do not add another big before the season starts.

Two of the Celtics 15 roster spots are unguaranteed. They have an obvious hole at center, they will fill it. May be someone like Charles Bassey or some other vet min, but they will get another big man.
The only guy they can waive with zero cap impact is Josh Minott. Which hey, maybe they do but again, I'm not betting on the Celtics making any more moves to their 15 guys already on the roster.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#118 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Jul 11, 2025 1:49 am

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JujitsuFlip wrote:In a gap year. With 15 players already on standard deals. $331k below the 2nd apron.

I would almost guarantee the Celtics do not add another big before the season starts.

Two of the Celtics 15 roster spots are unguaranteed. They have an obvious hole at center, they will fill it. May be someone like Charles Bassey or some other vet min, but they will get another big man.
The only guy they can waive with zero cap impact is Josh Minott. Which hey, maybe they do but again, I'm not betting on the Celtics making any more moves to their 15 guys already on the roster.

Celtics can waive both Walsh and Davison before the season starts. Walsh has 200k guaranteed. Davison becomes guaranteed on Jan 10th, 2026
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#119 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:31 am

Celts17Pride wrote:
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Celts17Pride wrote:Two of the Celtics 15 roster spots are unguaranteed. They have an obvious hole at center, they will fill it. May be someone like Charles Bassey or some other vet min, but they will get another big man.
The only guy they can waive with zero cap impact is Josh Minott. Which hey, maybe they do but again, I'm not betting on the Celtics making any more moves to their 15 guys already on the roster.

Celtics can waive both Walsh and Davison before the season starts. Walsh has 200k guaranteed. Davison becomes guaranteed on Jan 10th, 2026
I saw they picked up Davidson's option. But okay, they can waive Davidson or Minott with zero cap impact.

They're not waiving Walsh and putting dead money on their books, when they're pennies away from going back in the 2nd apron.

I'd say the Celtics 15 man roster is set. They're playing for ping pong balls in 2026, not a ring.

5 spot looking nice and full for a gap year.
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Re: Boston wants to move Simons, per Wiretap 

Post#120 » by Riverwalk2021 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:13 am

the sea duck wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:Tough to make salary work and need to wait until Simons can be aggregated, but…

White/Simons for Randle/DDV/Conley

Celtics need to add some value.


I would give away Simons for free to join Randle/DDV/Conley than to trade White.


The Wolves would do that in a second. Adding White next to a ball dominant star like Ant is crazy. The two way talent makes it the best backcourt in the NBA instantly.

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