Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning

[cmoss84]

Giannis REALLY wants to stay in Milwaukee
Strike while the iron is hot and one up OKC extensions. Give Mil the best offer.
Randle, Naz, DDV, Rocco, and whatever picks.

We don't have picks.

Any Giannis offer that they'd even consider would likely have to start with McDaniels, Beringer and TSJ.

And we'd likely need to move Rudy to a 3rd team because I just can't see a Giannis/Rudy combo working.

I get your point. But what if Giannis wants out and that is their best offer? What if teams don't want to give up the farm?

[winforlose]

Giannis REALLY wants to stay in Milwaukee
Strike while the iron is hot and one up OKC extensions. Give Mil the best offer.
Randle, Naz, DDV, Rocco, and whatever picks.

We don't have picks.

Any Giannis offer that they'd even consider would likely have to start with McDaniels, Beringer and TSJ.

And we'd likely need to move Rudy to a 3rd team because I just can't see a Giannis/Rudy combo working.

I get your point. But what if Giannis wants out and that is their best offer? What if teams don't want to give up the farm?

The odds seem quite low. I agree that any move to bring GA here costs Jaden and Joan to start.

[BlacJacMac]

Giannis REALLY wants to stay in Milwaukee
Strike while the iron is hot and one up OKC extensions. Give Mil the best offer.
Randle, Naz, DDV, Rocco, and whatever picks.

We don't have picks.

Any Giannis offer that they'd even consider would likely have to start with McDaniels, Beringer and TSJ.

And we'd likely need to move Rudy to a 3rd team because I just can't see a Giannis/Rudy combo working.

I get your point. But what if Giannis wants out and that is their best offer? What if teams don't want to give up the farm?

Its Giannis...

A Top 3 player that is still 30 years old. We're not going to be bidding against ourselves.

If your offer is their best one, they'll just keep him and try again at the deadline or next year.

[winforlose]

We don't have picks.

Any Giannis offer that they'd even consider would likely have to start with McDaniels, Beringer and TSJ.

And we'd likely need to move Rudy to a 3rd team because I just can't see a Giannis/Rudy combo working.

I get your point. But what if Giannis wants out and that is their best offer? What if teams don't want to give up the farm?

Its Giannis...

A Top 3 player that is still 30 years old. We're not going to be bidding against ourselves.

If your offer is their best one, they'll just keep him and try again at the deadline or next year.

It won’t be. There will always be better. GA is gonna get a lot of picks and a lot of young talent, probably before the 26/27 based on online rumors and comments.

[wolves_89]

One minor roster issue to consider is whether Jesse Edwards ends up keeping his 2-way deal. I thought they might keep him due to Beringer/Zikarsky not being able to contribute in the NBA in the short term, but todays game showed me that Joan is already well ahead of Jesse. With that in mind having 2 center only guys on a 2-way may not be the best way to go.

[winforlose]

One minor roster issue to consider is whether Jesse Edwards ends up keeping his 2-way deal. I thought they might keep him due to Beringer/Zikarsky not being able to contribute in the NBA in the short term, but todays game showed me that Joan is already well ahead of Jesse. With that in mind having 2 center only guys on a 2-way may not be the best way to go.

I think we are hoping Rocco might be able to play the 4. Also we have enough depth at 2-4 I doubt it really hurts us. I do wonder why we are keeping JED around, but I don’t think it hurts us in the long run.

[Klomp]

One minor roster issue to consider is whether Jesse Edwards ends up keeping his 2-way deal. I thought they might keep him due to Beringer/Zikarsky not being able to contribute in the NBA in the short term, but todays game showed me that Joan is already well ahead of Jesse. With that in mind having 2 center only guys on a 2-way may not be the best way to go.

Of course Beringer is far ahead of Edwards, one was a first round pick at 18 years old while one was undrafted at 24 years old after 5 years of college.

However, I think with just how raw Zikarsky is, I don't even think about him being on the team this year. It's a full-on development year for him. Edwards isn't great, but I think he's at least adequate as a third center/sixth post player option.

[cmoss84]

I actually really like DDV. However, with Clark and TSJ ready to go, he seems like the best potential trade return. It would also clear up enough money for...Chris Paul.
CP and Mike seem like the perfect vets RD can learn from, as well as a perfect bridge to PG next year.

[Klomp]

I actually really like DDV. However, with Clark and TSJ ready to go, he seems like the best potential trade return. It would also clear up enough money for...Chris Paul.
CP and Mike seem like the perfect vets RD can learn from, as well as a perfect bridge to PG next year.

Being open to trading Donte is fine. Wanting to trade Donte in order to bring in Chris Paul? Questionable.

[winforlose]

DDV for Coby White would be great for us. I am just not sure they would make the trade or how much we need to pay Coby next year.

[cmoss84]

I actually really like DDV. However, with Clark and TSJ ready to go, he seems like the best potential trade return. It would also clear up enough money for...Chris Paul.
CP and Mike seem like the perfect vets RD can learn from, as well as a perfect bridge to PG next year.

Being open to trading Donte is fine. Wanting to trade Donte in order to bring in Chris Paul? Questionable.

Let's say something like:
DDV to Det
For
Paul, Klintman, '27 FRP, and an additional FRP

[BlacJacMac]

DDV for Coby White would be great for us. I am just not sure they would make the trade or how much we need to pay Coby next year.

Far, far too much.

[Neeva]

Yea let someone else pay Coby White, he has some nice scoring games but far too many mediocre ones, he will be neutral value asset on his next contract, at best.

[Norseman79]

A guy I would love them to go after is Andrew Nembhard. DD, and what to land him?

[minimus]

Yea let someone else pay Coby White, he has some nice scoring games but far too many mediocre ones, he will be neutral value asset on his next contract, at best.

Yeah, he had a few good games against MIN. That's why MIN fans remember him. Given DDV 3pt shooting, effort, toughness and contract I think Donte is almost ideal backup comboguard for MIN.

[BlacJacMac]

Yea let someone else pay Coby White, he has some nice scoring games but far too many mediocre ones, he will be neutral value asset on his next contract, at best.

He's not much of a distributor and a horrible defender.

1 trick pony.

[KGdaBom]

DDV for Coby White would be great for us. I am just not sure they would make the trade or how much we need to pay Coby next year.

Far, far too much.

Not too much at all. I'd like to get even more.

[Norseman79]

I'm telling you, Nembhard for DD and fill is a win win

[winforlose]

I'm telling you, Nembhard for DD and fill is a win win

AN makes $18,102,000. DDV makes $11,990,000. What filler makes up that difference? Remember we cannot take back more money.

[Klomp]

So this is just me brainstorming right now....

We are currently $6,020,739 above the first apron right now, if my calculations using Spotrac are correct. We cannot aggregate salaries, unless a trade brings us below the first apron. So in theory, we could trade Randle and DiVincenzo and bring back a salary around $36,800,000. Probably a few million less actually, because I guess it would probably hard cap us at the first apron? Probably not really worth it at that point, unless the player is really underpaid.