Bucks, Wiz, Lakers, Heat lots of guard swaps

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Bucks, Wiz, Lakers, Heat lots of guard swaps 

Post#1 » by nykballa2k4 » Thu Jul 10, 2025 11:12 pm

Bucks trade Kuzma and Trent for CJ McCollum
Rationale: Kuz fit is kinda clunky. He is a true tweener forward, I guess he would start at the 3, but CJ gives them a starting lead guard capable of scoring 20 ppg and taking over meaningful play making giving Giannis a break. It's a meager yet meaningful upgrade that IMO puts players into better slots in the line up.

Lakers trade Reaves, Vando, Gabe, Kleber, Rui
Get Wiggins, Kuz, Kispert
Rationale: Wiggins is the piece the covet, slotting nicely into that defense playing wing who can also be a scoring weapon when needed. Kispert adds a consistent shooter on a reasonable contract, so not having to worry about the Reaves extension. Kuz actually is a pretty good fit with the Lakers team as he can be a bench scoring option to give them depth. He is more diverse on offense so he can offer a bit more creativity and creation rather than just spot up shooter, guy off a screen etc.

Wizards trade CJ, Kispert, Middleton
get Reaves, VAndo, Vincent, Kleber, Rozier.
Probably just cut Smart
Rationale: Vando is a useful back up 4, plays defense, can do a variety of things and if he were healthy he would be a bargain. Reaves would be able to be the player they were hoping Poole would be. Yes he is a shooter/scorer, but he is not selfish and is a relatively efficient player. Rozier was cleared in his probe, so he could easily be a rotation player and deadline trade piece for a would be tank team.

Heat trade Rozier, Wiggins
get Middleton, Rui, Trent

So I do have the Heat here trading a starter for 2 guys best off the bench and a situational role player BUT IMO this actually fits what Miami needs.
Middleton seems like a good Heat culture type, could play Butlers former role while Rui would be a high minutes off of the bench player. Trent and fonteccio would replace the Duncan Robinson/Struss dynamic. heat will also have opened up a good amount of cap an/or will have good amount of expiring contracts to trade at the deadline to upgrade the team.
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Re: Bucks, Wiz, Lakers, Heat lots of guard swaps 

Post#2 » by facothomas22 » Thu Jul 10, 2025 11:20 pm

This trade is flatout horrible for the Wizards and Heat. The Bucks and Lakers are stealing a ton of value here.
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Post#3 » by BBallFreak » Thu Jul 10, 2025 11:40 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:Heat trade Rozier, Wiggins
get Middleton, Rui, Trent

So I do have the Heat here trading a starter for 2 guys best off the bench and a situational role player BUT IMO this actually fits what Miami needs.
Middleton seems like a good Heat culture type, could play Butlers former role while Rui would be a high minutes off of the bench player. Trent and fonteccio would replace the Duncan Robinson/Struss dynamic. heat will also have opened up a good amount of cap an/or will have good amount of expiring contracts to trade at the deadline to upgrade the team.

I have issues, here.

We told the Lakers that we'd trade Wiggins for Rui, Knecht, and a first. This sees us replacing Knecht and the first with Trent and Middleton. We sacrifice that value to get off of Rozier... He's expiring... I mean, to me, I'd much prefer to get Knecht and the first and just buy out Rozier. Middleton is done and Trent, while move, isn't important enough to do this deal

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Re: Bucks, Wiz, Lakers, Heat lots of guard swaps 

Post#4 » by nate33 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 1:14 am

The Wizards laugh you off the phone. They don't need or want a guy like Reaves when they are building around a Carrington/Tre Johnson backcourt. Reaves is 27 already. And the rest of the guys the Wizards are getting are way worse than the quality vets they are sending out.
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Post#5 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Fri Jul 11, 2025 1:43 am

Look like all teams hate it lol bucks make out nice
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Post#6 » by dcstanley » Fri Jul 11, 2025 1:49 am

Reaves has significantly more value than Wiggins and Rui has the same amount of value as Wiggins.

The Lakers don't benefit at all for making this trade.
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Re: Bucks, Wiz, Lakers, Heat lots of guard swaps 

Post#7 » by Vae Victus » Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:03 am

Lakers say no as well. Trading 2 solid rotational players (Rui, Reaves), 2 eh rotational player (Vincent, Vando) all on expirings for 1 solid rotational player (Wiggins) for 2 eh rotational players (Kuz, Kispert) and all the incoming players have owed money past the upcoming season.

If Pelinka was willing to have 2 year money he woulda just re-signed DFS. I think if lakers can keep one of Rui or Reaves, I’d be 100% willing to pull the trigger, but I doubt Pelinka will due to his “preserve 2026-27 cap space” plan.
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Re: Bucks, Wiz, Lakers, Heat lots of guard swaps 

Post#8 » by JayMKE » Fri Jul 11, 2025 4:53 am

Don't think McCollum is that significant of an upgrade over Trent who is way younger bigger and plays defense. CJ is not a player you can win with, he's 33 and doesn't play defense so that's a pass from me. McCollum I would only be interested in if/when he gets bought out.
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