Summer League Thread

WuTang_OG · Post #381 » by **WuTang_OG** » Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:13 am

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WuTang_OG · Post #382 » by **WuTang_OG** » Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:53 am

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dballislife · Post #383 » by **dballislife** » Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:58 am

so would you trade away a chance at a top 3 pick next draft for queen?

Syd-TK3 · Post #384 » by **Syd-TK3** » Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:03 am

Im honestly more excited to see Jakobe then CMB I need him to look like he too good for summer league

HumbleRen · Post #385 » by **HumbleRen** » Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:06 am

Syd-TK3 wrote:Im honestly more excited to see Jakobe then CMB I need him to look like he too good for summer league

I feel the opposite. I don't see the on ball creation that some folks see in him. I think he's a 3&D player through and through.

WaltFrazier · Post #386 » by **WaltFrazier** » Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:11 am

WuTang_OG wrote:

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Bronny really is ordinary at best. How long can he remain in the league? Till dad retires I guess

Basketball_Jones · Post #387 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:13 am

5/21 for Flagg. Ouch. He’s got supreme confidence out there though I just feel he has IT.

RoteSchroder · Post #388 » by **RoteSchroder** » Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:15 am

HumbleRen wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:Im honestly more excited to see Jakobe then CMB I need him to look like he too good for summer league

I feel the opposite. I don't see the on ball creation that some folks see in him. I think he's a 3&D player through and through.

To me, his potential is:

3+D (but not elite on D)
auxiliary play making ability (a #4-5 with starters, #2-3 with bench)
some off-ball cutting/shooting

Zeno · Post #389 » by **Zeno** » Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:16 am

dballislife wrote:so would you trade away a chance at a top 3 pick next draft for queen?

It is a dumb trade regardless of how Queen turns out because Atlanta would have almost certainly done the trade with top 6 protection(for example) on the pick. Whether Queen becomes an all-star or the pick somehow ends up late lottery, it was an unnecessary overpayment and risk. I am really rooting for the Pels to get away with the stupidity but that won’t mean it wasn’t stupidity.

Psubs · Post #390 » by **Psubs** » Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:16 am

WaltFrazier wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:

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Bronny really is ordinary at best. How long can he remain in the league? Till dad retires I guess

Until he secures that pension. :lol:

SpezNc · Post #391 » by **SpezNc** » Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:20 am

Syd-TK3 wrote:Im honestly more excited to see Jakobe then CMB I need him to look like he too good for summer league

I think it’s too much expectation to assume someone going to be too good for the summer league.

SL simply add to the sample size of data.

It’s fun to watch. We hope to see glimpses of success.

But at the end of the end it does not matters much

What you do after summer league is much more important.

Let’s say you have a bad summer league , do you lose confidence? do you double up the effort the rest of summer? If you have a strong summer league , do you rest on your laurels the rest of the summer or you keep working ? How did he take coach’s criticism or counsel ? Do someone make connections with fellow youngster both on and off the court is often more important compare to the actual performance.

Some people says that SL does not tell you if you can play in the NBA but will tell you who can’t. I think I disagree with this statement.

SL doesn’t tell much both ways.

The more positive data we can but on the sample size the better but at the end of the day SL is an insignificant sample size.

I am very excited to see both Ja’Kobe and CMB.

Tor_Raps · Post #392 » by **Tor_Raps** » Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:29 am

RoteSchroder wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:Im honestly more excited to see Jakobe then CMB I need him to look like he too good for summer league

I feel the opposite. I don't see the on ball creation that some folks see in him. I think he's a 3&D player through and through.

To me, his potential is:

3+D (but not elite on D)
auxiliary play making ability (a #4-5 with starters, #2-3 with bench)
some off-ball cutting/shooting

Walter has already flashed enough of an in between game that he'll be more than just 3 and D. He can create his own shots and get to the foul line, he just wasn't strong enough to absorb contact yet.

Los_29 · Post #393 » by **Los_29** » Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:47 am

Not a great day for the rookies. The bar has been set pretty low for CMB. lol.

HumbleRen · Post #394 » by **HumbleRen** » Fri Jul 11, 2025 4:08 am

Tor_Raps wrote:
RoteSchroder wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
I feel the opposite. I don't see the on ball creation that some folks see in him. I think he's a 3&D player through and through.

To me, his potential is:

3+D (but not elite on D)
auxiliary play making ability (a #4-5 with starters, #2-3 with bench)
some off-ball cutting/shooting

Walter has already flashed enough of an in between game that he'll be more than just 3 and D. He can create his own shots and get to the foul line, he just wasn't strong enough to absorb contact yet.

Maybe if you think of the old 3&D guys but the modern day ones can self create a bit but it doesn't mean they aren't 3&D players. I'm going to have to see a massive improvements in his handles for me to believe in that upside. Maybe added strength will help with that.

Clutch0z24 · Post #395 » by **Clutch0z24** » Fri Jul 11, 2025 4:17 am

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Pretty efficient game by Jase Richardson....Playing on a bad foot still did his thing tonight.....Magic got a steal at 25

bballsparkin · Post #396 » by **bballsparkin** » Fri Jul 11, 2025 5:50 am

Yallbecrazy wrote:Queen did have 7 TOs. Didn't watch as I can't really watch more than 5 minutes of a non Raptors Summer League game.

Me either. I tried and gave up.

NinjaBro · Post #397 » by **NinjaBro** » Fri Jul 11, 2025 7:10 am

WuTang_OG wrote:seems like it

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Still missing 3 lbs but encouraging

dballislife · Post #398 » by **dballislife** » Fri Jul 11, 2025 7:29 am

i cant believe walter is 12 pounds better than he was last season, it will lead to at least 12 more points, and 12 more in the win column

Supermann98 · Post #399 » by **Supermann98** » Fri Jul 11, 2025 12:11 pm

Clutch0z24 wrote:

Watch on YouTube

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couple good debuts....Love what Joan showed as a defensive big, Queen looks like a vet already out there, Fears looks exciting (Most pts came from the FT line)

Watching Beringer become the next Giannis is gonna drive me crazy for the next 12-14 years

Tripod · Post #400 » by **Tripod** » Fri Jul 11, 2025 12:15 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:
RoteSchroder wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
I feel the opposite. I don't see the on ball creation that some folks see in him. I think he's a 3&D player through and through.

To me, his potential is:

3+D (but not elite on D)
auxiliary play making ability (a #4-5 with starters, #2-3 with bench)
some off-ball cutting/shooting

Walter has already flashed enough of an in between game that he'll be more than just 3 and D. He can create his own shots and get to the foul line, he just wasn't strong enough to absorb contact yet.

He is very similar to RJ in that regard. He keeps his dribble alive in the paint like RJ which is very noticeable compared to Gradey or Barnes for example.