Can We Talk LeBron Yet?

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Re: Can We Talk LeBron Yet? 

Post#41 » by taikibansei » Sun Jul 6, 2025 6:33 pm

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Quoted for truth. I'm guessing either #2 or #3 will be what happens.

Zero chance he wastes a year sitting at home. All signs indicate that he's willing to play this season out, I'm not really sure why people think the situation is toxic enough for him to be sent home. This whole thing is standard Lebron fare.



I think this is more of a extreme solution if both sides can't agree to ether play out the season or agree to a buyout, so not likely but yet far from impossible. The relationship between Lebron/Lakers is at a all time low with no signs of it getting any better. I think this resolves by Lebron agreeing to play out the season and then leaving afterwards. However there are some building block that could led to Lebron being sent home for the season should thing get really ugly.


While you both might be correct, this season feels different to me: 1) Lebron is no longer the main focus of an organization's strategies moving forward, 2) Lebron is no longer the best player on said organization's roster, and 3) Lebron apparently may not like the actual best player...at least according to somebody called Gambadoro as quoted in websites like this:

https://basketnews.com/news-227230-lebron-james-and-austin-reaves-reportedly-frustrated-with-luka-doncic.html#google_vignette

Outside of possibly Wade during the first season of the Heatles, #1 and #2 have not been true throughout Lebron's career, so #3 (if true) has also never been an issue before. Lebron's been a great player--imo the GOAT--and is justifiably proud. As somebody pretty darn old myself (far older than Lebron), people sometimes don't handle it well when a younger, better person suddenly arrives on the scene to "replace" them. Again in my experience, this can sometimes lead to some extreme responses.

Still, this is a Lakers' issue, and I wish them good luck handling it. Just as long as Lebron doesn't end up on the Knicks (unless we get him cheap after a buyout), I'm good! :D
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Re: Can We Talk LeBron Yet? 

Post#42 » by nykballa2k4 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 8:03 pm

taikibansei wrote:
facothomas22 wrote:
dcstanley wrote:Zero chance he wastes a year sitting at home. All signs indicate that he's willing to play this season out, I'm not really sure why people think the situation is toxic enough for him to be sent home. This whole thing is standard Lebron fare.



I think this is more of a extreme solution if both sides can't agree to ether play out the season or agree to a buyout, so not likely but yet far from impossible. The relationship between Lebron/Lakers is at a all time low with no signs of it getting any better. I think this resolves by Lebron agreeing to play out the season and then leaving afterwards. However there are some building block that could led to Lebron being sent home for the season should thing get really ugly.


While you both might be correct, this season feels different to me: 1) Lebron is no longer the main focus of an organization's strategies moving forward, 2) Lebron is no longer the best player on said organization's roster, and 3) Lebron apparently may not like the actual best player...at least according to somebody called Gambadoro as quoted in websites like this:

https://basketnews.com/news-227230-lebron-james-and-austin-reaves-reportedly-frustrated-with-luka-doncic.html#google_vignette

Outside of possibly Wade during the first season of the Heatles, #1 and #2 have not been true throughout Lebron's career, so #3 (if true) has also never been an issue before. Lebron's been a great player--imo the GOAT--and is justifiably proud. As somebody pretty darn old myself (far older than Lebron), people sometimes don't handle it well when a younger, better person suddenly arrives on the scene to replace them. Again in my experience, this can sometimes lead to some extreme responses.

Still, this is a Lakers' issue, and I wish them good luck handling it. Just as long as Lebron doesn't end up on the Knicks (unless we get him cheap after a buyout), I'm good! :D


I don't know how you can be older than Bron and have him as your GOAT, but there is a different board for that talk lol.

IMO Luka has a completely different style of play than LeBron is used to. Basically Luka is the Jokic of Hardens. Very ball dominant and not quick to share.

MJ (My goat, though I can hear arguments for KAJ, Wilt, Russell etc) had a tough time dealing with players who were built like him but not performing like him, doing it how he would. This was an issue when he was an owner, and on the Wizards. Of course MJ also had the issue of still being "the guy" when they brought in the younger versions ie Stackhouse.

Of course, the most likely thing is no LeBron trade, but he very well could look at the roster, realize no one plays defense, not a very deep team, and the guy he hand picked to coach is not going to get it done and compensate for the lack of POA defenders.
So much as I love Ayton and view in a vacuum Ayton > DFS Lakers need guys, particularly at the wings, who can be switchable versatile defenders.
They need to add guys like Jrue, Grayson, Caruso, etc.

So where would LeBron be able to go and be a fit?
Just going down the EC: Cavs - obvious ties, but would have to be dealt for something like Garland plus. You have to make sure you don't lose Spida, Mobley, Hunter, ideally not Allen either. Hard to make the math and basketball work.

Celtics don't trade with LA. Only thing they could really do to win NOW is move Tatum for LeBron. Lakers really have nothing to offer back, so thats DOA twice.

Knicks - Everyones favorite parter to up the bid! Either you are going to pair Luka, Ayton with KAT or you are going to take away 2 of the 3 defensive anchors on the Knicks. Either way is ain't going to work.

Pacers - penny pinchers are not getting Bron

Bucks - got a ton of dead money now, really no way to make that work financially nor basketball

Pistons -- have all the parts/pieces, but Cade and LeBron is a weird fit. Probably MY favorite, just because the Pistons are fun, gritty, and their coach takes no prisoners, but unlikely.

Magic - Made their splash already, probably not moving Wagner so keep it moving. Hard to make it to 52M without making it hurt.

Bulls: Not enough there.

Heat: Riley so no

Hawks: Have to part with KP (can't use in the trade) JJ, Trae one of them to make money work. So this has no hope.

Hornets: Actually would be interesting with LeBron, but they have too many holes in the roster even if you assume Bridges is on good behavior and at his best, Ball is healthy, etc. Also can't see them dealing with the Lakers again.

Sixers: LeBron for PG swap would be pretty cool, but what would Philly really part with to get that deal over the line?

Raptors: Lots to work with on the roster, there are certainly pieces that would fit in on LA. Overall I can't see LeBron going to TOR

Lastly Wiz: A few good pieces on the roster, but even adding LeBron for free would not guarantee 6th seed, so no good.

East is the best path to the finals, but there are not many good options really so...

The last idea could be something like LeBron for Hartensein, Dort, FRP. LeBron can play with those kids, be a 2nd playmaker, and try to see if he can beat MJ by getting 73+ wins and a ring. He likes to stack the deck so why not?
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Re: Can We Talk LeBron Yet? 

Post#43 » by ecuhus1981 » Mon Jul 7, 2025 9:45 pm

Brooklyn can't even get a mention in a full EC breakdown of Lebron's destinations? Ha, no for real, we are going full rebuild, no point in discussing James to the Nets.

Honestly though, the Knicks deserve more mention here. Mike Brown knows him, New York appeals to LBJ from a media and basketball perspective. KAT for James might serve all parties.
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Re: Can We Talk LeBron Yet? 

Post#44 » by nykballa2k4 » Mon Jul 7, 2025 11:35 pm

ecuhus1981 wrote:Brooklyn can't even get a mention in a full EC breakdown of Lebron's destinations? Ha, no for real, we are going full rebuild, no point in discussing James to the Nets.

Honestly though, the Knicks deserve more mention here. Mike Brown knows him, New York appeals to LBJ from a media and basketball perspective. KAT for James might serve all parties.

Now with Ayton in the fold, KAT would be a weird fit there. But you are not going to let Ayton influence a trade for KAT.

IMO, I would rather have KAT than Lebron for the obvious reasons. How much would the Lakers sweeten the pot? K4 to me is not really much of an asset.
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Re: Can We Talk LeBron Yet? 

Post#45 » by NYG » Tue Jul 8, 2025 12:39 am

Could Reaves/Brunson work? Is there a Reaves and LeBron to NY deal that works?
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Re: Can We Talk LeBron Yet? 

Post#46 » by NYG » Tue Jul 8, 2025 12:51 am

Knecht and Conditional Wizards 1st to Team X

LeBron James, Austin Reaves, Bronny James and Best Team X Center to NYK

Josh Hart and KAT to LAL
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Re: Can We Talk LeBron Yet? 

Post#47 » by NYG » Tue Jul 8, 2025 12:57 am

NYG wrote:Knecht and Conditional Wizards 1st to Team X

LeBron James, Austin Reaves, Bronny James and Best Team X Center to NYK

Josh Hart and KAT to LAL


Could Kyle Filipowski and Utah be a good team X?
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Re: Can We Talk LeBron Yet? 

Post#48 » by Darren » Tue Jul 8, 2025 1:06 am

NYG wrote:Knecht and Conditional Wizards 1st to Team X

LeBron James, Austin Reaves, Bronny James and Best Team X Center to NYK

Josh Hart and KAT to LAL


NY gets way too much
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Re: Can We Talk LeBron Yet? 

Post#49 » by NYG » Tue Jul 8, 2025 1:42 am

Darren wrote:
NYG wrote:Knecht and Conditional Wizards 1st to Team X

LeBron James, Austin Reaves, Bronny James and Best Team X Center to NYK

Josh Hart and KAT to LAL


NY gets way too much


Eliminate Team X and send the Wizards pick to the Lakers with Dadiet and Knecht to the Knicks?

LeBron, Reaves, Bronny and Knecht for KAT, Hart, Dadiet and Wizards Conditional 1st?
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Re: Can We Talk LeBron Yet? 

Post#50 » by zimpy27 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 1:54 am

NYG wrote:
Darren wrote:
NYG wrote:Knecht and Conditional Wizards 1st to Team X

LeBron James, Austin Reaves, Bronny James and Best Team X Center to NYK

Josh Hart and KAT to LAL


NY gets way too much


Eliminate Team X and send the Wizards pick to the Lakers with Dadiet and Knecht to the Knicks?

LeBron, Reaves, Bronny and Knecht for KAT, Hart, Dadiet and Wizards Conditional 1st?


More like LeBron for KAT straight up. I don't think anything else is needed.
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Re: Can We Talk LeBron Yet? 

Post#51 » by nykballa2k4 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 1:01 am

Aside from the Knicks, what other Eastern teams would LeBron fit in with?
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Re: Can We Talk LeBron Yet? 

Post#52 » by mademan » Fri Jul 11, 2025 1:34 am

nykballa2k4 wrote:Aside from the Knicks, what other Eastern teams would LeBron fit in with?


Cleveland is the obvious one
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Re: Can We Talk LeBron Yet? 

Post#53 » by Knicks365247 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 4:53 am

I'm hoping LeBron gets bought out and signs with the Knicks.

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Re: Can We Talk LeBron Yet? 

Post#54 » by winforlose » Fri Jul 11, 2025 4:58 am

Knicks365247 wrote:I'm hoping LeBron gets bought out and signs with the Knicks.

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Why would they buy him out? They want him in LAL.
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Re: Can We Talk LeBron Yet? 

Post#55 » by KuruptedCav » Fri Jul 11, 2025 5:00 am

He wants to play meaningful minutes and a chance to win.

Lakers want to get to 2026 with cap space preserved.

Contenders do no have the massive expiring contracts the Lakers would need in return. And sending their contracts to a third team for their expiring requires sending value to the third team which makes the acquiring team pay too much and the Lakers receiving too little.

And nobody has enough cap space to make a buyout with a meaningful offset make sense. And stretching him saps 2026 cap.

I think he plays it out.


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Re: Can We Talk LeBron Yet? 

Post#56 » by KuruptedCav » Fri Jul 11, 2025 5:02 am

GatherStepGuru wrote:Cavs: DeAndre Hunter + Jarrett Allen + Struss + picks for Bron

Heat: Wiggins + Kasparas + Ware + picks for something around Bron

Didn’t think these out much, nor looked at contracts, but I think if he leaves, it’s to have a sunset in a meaningful place, while having a chance to win

Cavs cannot aggregate to acquire him. They are effectively out.


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Re: Can We Talk LeBron Yet? 

Post#57 » by dowhatnow » Fri Jul 11, 2025 5:32 am

Yes, the Cavs can’t trade for LeBron but they could sign him to a veteran minimum contract if If IF he and the Lakers can come to a reasonable buyout amount.
Ask yourself, if salary cap weren’t an issue what teams might LeBron have considered signing with that gives him a great shot of getting another ring without looking like he’s just ring chasing? I believe the Cavs would be at the top of the list. Yes the Cavs had the best record in the East last season but they couldn’t even make it to the ECF. So if he did end up with the Cavs it wouldn’t look like Durant signing with the 73 win Warriors that just lost in the finals.
But because there is a salary cap how could LeBron get paid a boatload of money and still end up where he wants? He opts in with the Lakers, negotiates a reasonable buyout, and goes back to the Cavs to be the missing piece that leads them to the title.
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Re: Can We Talk LeBron Yet? 

Post#58 » by Vae Victus » Fri Jul 11, 2025 6:05 am

Lakers have no incentive to buy out Lebron or accept a poo poo platter of expirings + marginal assets. They need to be a solid team to entice Luka to stay and not want to bail out to greener pastures next offseason. Buying out/trading Lebron will always result in a massive talent downgrade with no ability to be competitive. Lebron can pout his way off the team, but risks destroying his legacy and people will just clown him for being yet another ring chasing punk ditching a franchise that has bent over backwards for him. At this point just play the season out and if he wants to ring chase next year, that's totally his right as a FA. The moment he opted back in for the money that obligates him to work with the Lakers for mutual benefit, his best course of action is to just play hard and gracefully hand off the reins to Luka ala Kareem to Magic. If they can luck into a chip, even better, but pouting like a bitch and wasting potentially his last "elite" season is a bluff that the Lakers have no choice but to call, as they literally can do nothing at this point of the off season.
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Re: Can We Talk LeBron Yet? 

Post#59 » by Michaellam1987 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 9:37 am

The only reasonable while feasible team will be MIA, Wiggins + Rozier + minor asset for LeBron
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Re: Can We Talk LeBron Yet? 

Post#60 » by zimpy27 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 10:29 am

Beal+FRP for LeBron might work.
Suns could add CP3.


Booker, Green, Brooks, LeBron, Mark
CP3, Grayson, O'Neale, Dunn, Maluach

I've seen worse teams, don't think Lakers do it though
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