Realistic Wish List???

[BlazersBroncos]

I’d be very very surprised if we don’t acquire Kispert. Seems like a perfect scenario unless WAS is mad we stole Deni already.

How? I cant see WAS being OK with taking on Grant and a swap of a EC (RWIII or Thybulle) for Kispert seems foolish.

If we somehow can convince WAS to do a Grant + tons of SRP for Kispert + Holmes trade though - Cronin gets a gold star from me lol.

[Wizenheimer]

I’d be very very surprised if we don’t acquire Kispert. Seems like a perfect scenario unless WAS is mad we stole Deni already.

How? I cant see WAS being OK with taking on Grant and a swap of a EC (RWIII or Thybulle) for Kispert seems foolish.

If we somehow can convince WAS to do a Grant + tons of SRP for Kispert + Holmes trade though - Cronin gets a gold star from me lol.

the Kispert attraction around here is nuts...he's a fringe NBA player.

* The NBA average PER is 15.0; Kispert's career mark is 11.6 and he was at 11.0 last season
* the NBA average winshares/48 is .100; Kispert's career mark is .059 and his mark last season was .032
* the NBA average BPM is 0.0; Kispert's career mark is -2.3 and last season it was -3.7

Kispert is a terrible defender; Simons-level bad. If he was on the current Blazer team he'd be 5th in the forward rotation behind Avdija-Camara-Grant-Thybulle. The only way he'd move to 4th would be if the Blazers idiotically traded Thybulle for him

I can't believe that people are advocating for the Blazers to use any of their limited assets on a low level player like Kispert. It's like people didn't learn a damn thing from the Olshey experience. Quit spending assets and effort messing around with the back end of the roster and the bottom of the rotation. It's pointless; a waste of time. Keep your powder dry

[DusterBuster]

I’d be very very surprised if we don’t acquire Kispert. Seems like a perfect scenario unless WAS is mad we stole Deni already.

How? I cant see WAS being OK with taking on Grant and a swap of a EC (RWIII or Thybulle) for Kispert seems foolish.

If we somehow can convince WAS to do a Grant + tons of SRP for Kispert + Holmes trade though - Cronin gets a gold star from me lol.

the Kispert attraction around here is nuts...he's a fringe NBA player.

* The NBA average PER is 15.0; Kispert's career mark is 11.6 and he was at 11.0 last season
* the NBA average winshares/48 is .100; Kispert's career mark is .059 and his mark last season was .032
* the NBA average BPM is 0.0; Kispert's career mark is -2.3 and last season it was -3.7

Kispert is a terrible defender; Simons-level bad. If he was on the current Blazer team he'd be 5th in the forward rotation behind Avdija-Camara-Grant-Thybulle. The only way he'd move to 4th would be if the Blazers idiotically traded Thybulle for him

I can't believe that people are advocating for the Blazers to use any of their limited assets on a low level player like Kispert. It's like people didn't learn a damn thing from the Olshey experience. Quit spending assets and effort messing around with the back end of the roster and the bottom of the rotation. It's pointless; a waste of time. Keep your powder dry

That's a bit of an overstatement... Give me break, no one here is thinking he's an answer to anything. The question as I saw it was "who's a realistic target".

I guess we can quibble on what a "wish list" is by the title. I was more thinking of "what's on the market, what do the Blazers have to work with, and what's something Cronin would actually do". He's not going to make a swing for someone like Zion or RJ Barrett at this juncture. They have some space to work with because of Ayton and only at max want deals that line up with Grant and Jrue. They also need some outside shooting help and the Wiz and Blazers FO have a good working relationship, so it's an easy call for them to make.

All those signs point to Krispert being a "realistic" (if WILDLY unspectacular or interesting) target. So even if you or I don't like him, he would very clearly be a very "Cronin-ish" move.

[Wizenheimer]

How? I cant see WAS being OK with taking on Grant and a swap of a EC (RWIII or Thybulle) for Kispert seems foolish.

If we somehow can convince WAS to do a Grant + tons of SRP for Kispert + Holmes trade though - Cronin gets a gold star from me lol.

the Kispert attraction around here is nuts...he's a fringe NBA player.

* The NBA average PER is 15.0; Kispert's career mark is 11.6 and he was at 11.0 last season
* the NBA average winshares/48 is .100; Kispert's career mark is .059 and his mark last season was .032
* the NBA average BPM is 0.0; Kispert's career mark is -2.3 and last season it was -3.7

Kispert is a terrible defender; Simons-level bad. If he was on the current Blazer team he'd be 5th in the forward rotation behind Avdija-Camara-Grant-Thybulle. The only way he'd move to 4th would be if the Blazers idiotically traded Thybulle for him

I can't believe that people are advocating for the Blazers to use any of their limited assets on a low level player like Kispert. It's like people didn't learn a damn thing from the Olshey experience. Quit spending assets and effort messing around with the back end of the roster and the bottom of the rotation. It's pointless; a waste of time. Keep your powder dry

That's a bit of an overstatement... Give me break, no one here is thinking he's an answer to anything. The question as I saw it was "who's a realistic target".

I guess we can quibble on what a "wish list" is by the title. I was more thinking of "what's on the market, what do the Blazers have to work with, and what's something Cronin would actually do". He's not going to make a swing for someone like Zion or RJ Barrett at this juncture. They have some space to work with because of Ayton and only at max want deals that line up with Grant and Jrue. They also need some outside shooting help and the Wiz and Blazers FO have a good working relationship, so it's an easy call for them to make.

All those signs point to Krispert being a "realistic" (if WILDLY unspectacular or interesting) target. So even if you or I don't like him, he would very clearly be a very "Cronin-ish" move.

I'm talking cost/benefit

he's not going to come free. Can we dispense with the Grant for Kispert notion?

so then, the avenues are Timelord, Thybulle, and the full-MLE. Thybulle is better than Kispert; and Thybulle's defense actually fits what the Blazers are trying to build. So, Thybulle for Kispert is a bad trade, especially considering Kispert's 3 year deal. Timelord for Kispert? OK but, as I said, why are the Blazers spending any assets to bring in a player who would be behind at least 4 others in the rotation. 6 others if your count Sharpe and Jrue as wings

not only that, the Blazers are going to be butting heads against the tax line with Jrue/Grant on the payroll at 70-73M/year. Kispert bumps that up to 83-86M year, and again, he's not a starter or a 6th-8th man. He's probably fringe rotation

ok then...use the MLE on him, hard-capping the team while foreclosing on the possibility of using the MLE to add a futurer draft pick(s) or an actual player that would be much higher in the rotation; and one who could actually play better defense than the Simons-level crappy defense Kispert plays

I'm not saying he would not be available for what Portland could pay. I'm saying there's a reason why he would be available and that's reason enough to look elsewhere

[BlazersBroncos]

the Kispert attraction around here is nuts...he's a fringe NBA player.

* The NBA average PER is 15.0; Kispert's career mark is 11.6 and he was at 11.0 last season
* the NBA average winshares/48 is .100; Kispert's career mark is .059 and his mark last season was .032
* the NBA average BPM is 0.0; Kispert's career mark is -2.3 and last season it was -3.7

Kispert is a terrible defender; Simons-level bad. If he was on the current Blazer team he'd be 5th in the forward rotation behind Avdija-Camara-Grant-Thybulle. The only way he'd move to 4th would be if the Blazers idiotically traded Thybulle for him

I can't believe that people are advocating for the Blazers to use any of their limited assets on a low level player like Kispert. It's like people didn't learn a damn thing from the Olshey experience. Quit spending assets and effort messing around with the back end of the roster and the bottom of the rotation. It's pointless; a waste of time. Keep your powder dry

That's a bit of an overstatement... Give me break, no one here is thinking he's an answer to anything. The question as I saw it was "who's a realistic target".

I guess we can quibble on what a "wish list" is by the title. I was more thinking of "what's on the market, what do the Blazers have to work with, and what's something Cronin would actually do". He's not going to make a swing for someone like Zion or RJ Barrett at this juncture. They have some space to work with because of Ayton and only at max want deals that line up with Grant and Jrue. They also need some outside shooting help and the Wiz and Blazers FO have a good working relationship, so it's an easy call for them to make.

All those signs point to Krispert being a "realistic" (if WILDLY unspectacular or interesting) target. So even if you or I don't like him, he would very clearly be a very "Cronin-ish" move.

I'm talking cost/benefit

he's not going to come free. Can we dispense with the Grant for Kispert notion?

so then, the avenues are Timelord, Thybulle, and the full-MLE. Thybulle is better than Kispert; and Thybulle's defense actually fits what the Blazers are trying to build. So, Thybulle for Kispert is a bad trade, especially considering Kispert's 3 year deal. Timelord for Kispert? OK but, as I said, why are the Blazers spending any assets to bring in a player who would be behind at least 4 others in the rotation. 7 others if your count Sharpe and Jrue as wings

not only that, the Blazers are going to be butting heads against the tax line with Jrue/Grant on the payroll at 70-73M/year. Kispert bumps that up to 83-86M year, and again, he's not a starter or a 6th-8th man. He's probably fringe rotation

ok then...use the MLE on him, hard-capping the team while foreclosing on the possibility of using the MLE to add a futurer draft pick(s) or an actual player that would be much higher in the rotation; and one who could actually play better defense than the Simons-level crappy defense Kispert plays

I'm not saying he would not be available for what Portland could pay. I'm saying there's a reason why he would be available and that's reason enough to look elsewhere

Ya, unless Grant is going out Kispert should be a big NO.

You can get that shooting by paying a VM to Lindy Waters or Seth Curry. And neither are graded out as bad defensively.

[tester551]

the Kispert attraction around here is nuts...he's a fringe NBA player.

100% agree.

Joe gets a lot of hate around here, but some of the ideas thrown out by fans are

[DusterBuster]

the Kispert attraction around here is nuts...he's a fringe NBA player.

* The NBA average PER is 15.0; Kispert's career mark is 11.6 and he was at 11.0 last season
* the NBA average winshares/48 is .100; Kispert's career mark is .059 and his mark last season was .032
* the NBA average BPM is 0.0; Kispert's career mark is -2.3 and last season it was -3.7

Kispert is a terrible defender; Simons-level bad. If he was on the current Blazer team he'd be 5th in the forward rotation behind Avdija-Camara-Grant-Thybulle. The only way he'd move to 4th would be if the Blazers idiotically traded Thybulle for him

I can't believe that people are advocating for the Blazers to use any of their limited assets on a low level player like Kispert. It's like people didn't learn a damn thing from the Olshey experience. Quit spending assets and effort messing around with the back end of the roster and the bottom of the rotation. It's pointless; a waste of time. Keep your powder dry

That's a bit of an overstatement... Give me break, no one here is thinking he's an answer to anything. The question as I saw it was "who's a realistic target".

I guess we can quibble on what a "wish list" is by the title. I was more thinking of "what's on the market, what do the Blazers have to work with, and what's something Cronin would actually do". He's not going to make a swing for someone like Zion or RJ Barrett at this juncture. They have some space to work with because of Ayton and only at max want deals that line up with Grant and Jrue. They also need some outside shooting help and the Wiz and Blazers FO have a good working relationship, so it's an easy call for them to make.

All those signs point to Krispert being a "realistic" (if WILDLY unspectacular or interesting) target. So even if you or I don't like him, he would very clearly be a very "Cronin-ish" move.

I'm talking cost/benefit

he's not going to come free. Can we dispense with the Grant for Kispert notion?

so then, the avenues are Timelord, Thybulle, and the full-MLE. Thybulle is better than Kispert; and Thybulle's defense actually fits what the Blazers are trying to build. So, Thybulle for Kispert is a bad trade, especially considering Kispert's 3 year deal. Timelord for Kispert? OK but, as I said, why are the Blazers spending any assets to bring in a player who would be behind at least 4 others in the rotation. 6 others if your count Sharpe and Jrue as wings

not only that, the Blazers are going to be butting heads against the tax line with Jrue/Grant on the payroll at 70-73M/year. Kispert bumps that up to 83-86M year, and again, he's not a starter or a 6th-8th man. He's probably fringe rotation

ok then...use the MLE on him, hard-capping the team while foreclosing on the possibility of using the MLE to add a futurer draft pick(s) or an actual player that would be much higher in the rotation; and one who could actually play better defense than the Simons-level crappy defense Kispert plays

I'm not saying he would not be available for what Portland could pay. I'm saying there's a reason why he would be available and that's reason enough to look elsewhere

I truly don't understand the handwringing over the Blazer salary situation, at least not at this current junction of their development.

I get the "flexibility" argument, I really do, but when have the Blazers EVER used flexibility to their advantage. I would love the Blazers to take on salary to get more draft capital, I've been wanting this ever since they started the rebuild, but they've never ever ever done it.

Keeping a tight grip on this figment of "flexibility" from the Blazers POV is like that person who racks up tons of frequent flyer miles for that "big trip!" they never end up taking.

I'm ignoring what I want anymore out of this team and just focusing on trying to pinpoint what's a "Cronin" style move. Using the MLE to add draft picks or a player better than Krispert is just not very "realistic" based on the past 5 years since Cronin took over from Olshey.

At this point, I don't even know why I'm bothering still talking about this guy. I couldn't give two **** if they actually trade for him. I didn't even know his name until like a week ago. I was just saying that yeah, that seems like a realistic guy they would trade for. Some dots clearly connect. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Pattycakes]

*gives an actual realistic answer*

Shot down and insulted. Enjoy your thought vacuum guys.

[Walton1one]

the Kispert attraction around here is nuts...he's a fringe NBA player.

* The NBA average PER is 15.0; Kispert's career mark is 11.6 and he was at 11.0 last season
* the NBA average winshares/48 is .100; Kispert's career mark is .059 and his mark last season was .032
* the NBA average BPM is 0.0; Kispert's career mark is -2.3 and last season it was -3.7

Kispert is a terrible defender; Simons-level bad. If he was on the current Blazer team he'd be 5th in the forward rotation behind Avdija-Camara-Grant-Thybulle. The only way he'd move to 4th would be if the Blazers idiotically traded Thybulle for him

I can't believe that people are advocating for the Blazers to use any of their limited assets on a low level player like Kispert. It's like people didn't learn a damn thing from the Olshey experience. Quit spending assets and effort messing around with the back end of the roster and the bottom of the rotation. It's pointless; a waste of time. Keep your powder dry[

You say this about a GM who traded for 35yr old possibly on the decline Jrue Holiday who is owed $104mil on his contract over the next 3 years and paid (2) 2nd round picks to boot to get him (before they "renegotiated"), overpaid Grant, overpaid Simons. traded for an injury prone RW3 and instead of rerouting him asked for a sky high price to deal him, matched on Thybulle and oh yeah, his signature FA signing GP2, which worked out wonderfully

I bolded that last sentence, winning at the margins (ie back end of the roster) is what separates great teams from mediocre ones. You don't do that by selling 2nd round picks for cash, using 2-way spots on never will be NBA caliber players and not actively seeking vets\younger players in FA or via trade in order to try to upgrade the talent at those EOB positions. OKC took Ajay Mitchell at #38 LY, MEM took Jaylen Wells @ #39, MIA took Larsson @ #44 but Cronin could not be bothered, after all he has Rupert\Murray\Cissoko\Reath & Banton right?

[GEE]

Last two posts from WIZ had super accurate reasons why we should maybe try to do better, but damn. F-IT... I say put him on the list and GO ZAGS. Personally think he's soft as Charmin and agree that we can definitely do better, simply by just doing nothing and not possibly waste money, or worsen the financials one bit for a non-needle moving move.

To that point I will again bring up GA, since "Wish" is in the Title. Brian Windbag brought him up again, but more importantly stated how many NBA teams around the league are closely monitoring the situation. No ****, I know, but I very much feel that we are one of those teams, and Cronin is smartly "keeping his powder dry", just in case Giannis is that different breed of NBA star, like a Kawhi Leonard is. I mean really, is Milwaukee a better place to be than Stumptown? And he's ok with that city, so if I were Cronin, I'd be sending him roses daily... from the City of Roses. Pictures of him wearing the red and black... hiring an airplane skywriter, etc, etc.

Why not us? I think GA just wants to win, and if he were to chose us (another smaller market team), over the rumored Knicks (who are sending flowers daily), who REALLY knows where he might chose. GMs, agents and family I think will eventually have a larger impact on hi decision, than that of any NBA Insider's Expert Analysis. All I know is... We would definitly be an instant contender with the roster I showed, and that's what he seems to want most.

[dckingsfan]

Vuk is off the list... that would have been an inexpensive signing. The Wizards are probably going to waive Holmes and they may have to waive Malaki Branham and Blake Wesley.

https://www.si.com/nba/wizards/washington-wizards-news/washington-wizards-re-sign-tristan-vukcevic

[Walton1one]

Another opportunity missed

#winning on the margins

[Walton1one]

the Kispert attraction around here is nuts...he's a fringe NBA player.

100% agree.

Joe gets a lot of hate around here, but some of the ideas thrown out by fans are

He 100% deserves it, one of if not the worst GM in the entire NBA, if Paul Allen were alive he would’ve been fired already, but because this is dysfunction junction & Bert Kolde pkaying wannabe owner, a clown like Cronin is still able to run the team going into their 5th year of losing

How many years does Cronin get to steer this rudderless losing ship before he deserves to be fired? I mean after all he’s had four losing seasons already and they gave him an extension, lol

So another 4? Unbelievable

[Wizenheimer]

I truly don't understand the handwringing over the Blazer salary situation, at least not at this current junction of their development.

I get the "flexibility" argument, I really do, but when have the Blazers EVER used flexibility to their advantage. I would love the Blazers to take on salary to get more draft capital, I've been wanting this ever since they started the rebuild, but they've never ever ever done it.

Keeping a tight grip on this figment of "flexibility" from the Blazers POV is like that person who racks up tons of frequent flyer miles for that "big trip!" they never end up taking.

I'm ignoring what I want anymore out of this team and just focusing on trying to pinpoint what's a "Cronin" style move. Using the MLE to add draft picks or a player better than Krispert is just not very "realistic" based on the past 5 years since Cronin took over from Olshey.

At this point, I don't even know why I'm bothering still talking about this guy. I couldn't give two **** if they actually trade for him. I didn't even know his name until like a week ago. I was just saying that yeah, that seems like a realistic guy they would trade for. Some dots clearly connect. Nothing more, nothing less.

sorry if I came across ballistic on this

it's just that the notion of Portland investing in a player like Kispert bugs me, mainly because it's a flashback to the Olshey tenure. Kispert wouldn't be an addition like Mo Williams or Aminu or Ed Davis or Josh Hart. He'd be a lot closer to an addition like Nic Stauskas or Mario Hezonja or Kent Bazemore or Anthony Tolliver. Maybe that's a little harsh; he might be a bit better than those guys. But his impact would be about the same. A one-dimesional player who is a defensive sieve

now, if you think that the MLE Portland will apparently carry into the season will end up in the trash can like all those TPE's over the last 30 months you may be right. Cronin hasn't used an exception since Gary Payton

[BlazersBroncos]

the Kispert attraction around here is nuts...he's a fringe NBA player.

100% agree.

Joe gets a lot of hate around here, but some of the ideas thrown out by fans are

He 100% deserves it, one of if not the worst GM in the entire NBA, if Paul Allen were alive he would’ve been fired already, but because this is dysfunction junction & Bert Kolde pkaying wannabe owner, a clown like Cronin is still able to run the team going into their 5th year of losing

How many years does Cronin get to steer this rudderless losing ship before he deserves to be fired? I mean after all he’s had four losing seasons already and they gave him an extension, lol

So another 4? Unbelievable

I just don’t see the argument for rudderless.

I see a clear attempt for a wholesale cultural shift to a defensive centric style.

I see a team in a small market that didn’t get the go-ahead to hemorrhage money in a Hinkie style tank pivot to the next best move - letting scouts make big swings on who they see as BPA (Sharpe and Yang clearly fit this - Scoot was basically consensus so IDK if he does) while surrounding the kids with hardworking defenders (Jrue, Matisse, RWIII).

Yes, the Grant deal stinks. Ya, maybe we moved off Simons too late. Maybe we could have squeezed a SRP out of a team for Ayton. Sure, maybe Grant could have been deal last offseason.

But there is nothing concrete saying any of the above is objectively true outside the Grant deal stinking. The small score only guard market wasn’t really booming last offseason. Ayton at 35M was never really tradeable and maybe teams in 24/25 were even LESS likely to trade for Grant.

Grant was a mistake. Most knew it from the jump. It is far and away the worst Cronin move.

The RoCo and Norm deal - sure we should have gotten some SRP.

Those are the two true whiffs. The handling of SRP annoys me as well.

Taking a swing on Ayton as salary filler in the Dame trade? Worth a swing to me. The Dame deal in general was a big win - especially when you see what other guards have gone for recently. Hell a similarly aged Jimmy Butler who actually has taken a team deep went for far less than Lillard.

Deni was a steal of a trade. Getting a future UNP FRP for moving down 5 slots is absurd value (Not talked about enough - if Presti did this we would be fellating him, albeit the absurd NO deal skewed the accolades this draft lol).

So basically there is then Holiday. I am for it. Simons likely would have cost a move if we wanted to swap him for a similar EC - we can only assume this as accurate given how close in talent he is to Sexton and the value he pulled.

The only argument with Holiday is the contract. He had a down shooting year but his other advanced stats were basically the same, or better, then 23/24. Cap space means nothing to a team in Portland.

Your getting a guy that has been praised his entire career for character, has taken it for the team and reduced his USG from 25-15 when asked, has played defense at a legit level since his rookie year and rarely misses games. Should he make like 25-28 instead of 35? Sure. But there are few better bets to make on an older player than Jrue Holiday continuing to play at an above replacement level. He is just that kind of pro. Bump that usage up and return to career average from the field and he is inching closer to being worth that 35.

A guy that can steady the pace and play mistake free ball at PG is huge for development - we saw it very clearly with CP3 early in OKC. We see Jrue as our OKC CP3. I think there is a chance we can be this years version of that team. Development arcs are not just in a vaccine - culture, early playoff experience, etc - all these things matter. For better or worse the FO sees Scoot and Sharpe as true foundational building blocks and are determined to surround them with quality vets.

End of the day 2 of 3 guys we wanted gone are gone. The big draft swing most wanted was taken - disagree with the pick all you want there is no denying it was a hell of a swing.

I am cautiously optimistic we can have a CP3 OKC type year. I am extremely excited we won’t have to watch Simons and Ayton again. And I can’t wait to see the forum overreact one way or the other on Yang lol

[Walton1one]

Respectfully disagree

Yang was a reach, tbd to see how bad of a miss (or slim chance it wasn’t), but he played in SL LY and was not very good

Sharpe & Scoot in Y4 & Y3 have not justified where they were picked, and both would go lower in a re-draft

I agree with you about Holiday, he is a winning player, however, he is 35, showing signs of decline, owed a lot of money & his contract has a very good possibility to mess up POR chances to re-sign Deni, given his descending contract

Not to mention, the 2026 draft is supposed to be one of the stronger drafts & POR is inexplicably trying to lean into trying to make the playoffs, when they don’t have a franchise player, let alone an All-Star player among their young players & have zero chance t progress to any meaningful games

This the absolute recipe for how to build a middling/going nowhere team and many fans\media members seem fine about it

[Dame Lizard]

Respectfully disagree

Yang was a reach, tbd to see how bad of a miss (or slim chance it wasn’t), but he played in SL LY and was not very good

Sharpe & Scoot in Y4 & Y3 have not justified where they were picked, and both would go lower in a re-draft

I agree with you about Holiday, he is a winning player, however, he is 35, showing signs of decline, owed a lot of money & his contract has a very good possibility to mess up POR chances to re-sign Deni, given his descending contract

Not to mention, the 2026 draft is supposed to be one of the stronger drafts & POR is inexplicably trying to lean into trying to make the playoffs, when they don’t have a franchise player, let alone an All-Star player among their young players & have zero chance t progress to any meaningful games

This the absolute recipe for how to build a middling/going nowhere team and many fans\media members seem fine about it

I agree that Yang was a reach, and while I think in general trading #11 for #16 and a 2028 unprotected 1st is a really good move, there were three players I valued significantly at #11. None of which were available by #16: Coward, Essengue and Bryant.

So honestly I wish we'd have just kept the pick and taken one of those three personally. I can see that the move we made made more business sense though. We have a nice little stash of picks/swaps in future years and a new owner can trade those (and Portland picks) for an All Star calibre player.

Regarding your resigning Deni point - what do you mean? Jrue's contract is up by the time Deni's is. 2027-28 is the last year of both of their contracts.

[GEE]

Bobbie Marks of ESPN was asked this morning about Dame, and where his potentially best landing spot would be. Take a wild guess which city he named. I think we can update that "list". I think Dame is coming home, because for one, I think deep down Dame just knows he goofed, and misses the 503.

Just simply imagine our squad by simply adding him. I was floating Pritchard for what he brings as a floor General and Spacer, and then someone asked who else in the league might be similar and gettable.............

Dame / Jrue / Scoot
Grant / Sharpe
Camara / Thybulle
Deni / RWIII
Cling-Kong / YangBang

Holy Crap... If healthy as reprted (with Dame rehabbing in Portland already), Simply, It's exactly what Dame has always wanted. I have Dame on the IR already wondering how his rehab is going and what's the prognosis for his return. Need to know which day on my calander I need to circle, so I can get my tickets early for the reunion game at home.

Still think Cronin is a bad GM? OK.... we'll see. I can easily envision Chris Haynes busy, as I type, creating the perfect PR spin for Dame's big "Decision"

RIP FREAKIN' CITY
F OKC
Here we come... Red Hot & Rollin' (smoke)
PLACE YOUR BETS (your welcome)

[Walton1one]

Dame is not the same player you think he was when he left here

[Walton1one]

Regarding your resigning Deni point - what do you mean? Jrue's contract is up by the time Deni's is. 2027-28 is the last year of both of their contracts.

I posted about this in another thread already, but letting Deni go to UFA would be a major mistake, certainly one that POR fans should know all too well about. Look what just happened to IND and they were in the championship

Because of the nature of Deni’s contract, value vs his worth on open market and descending in value, limits (120% if I recall) on extending from that contract and his years of service (can make up to 30% of cap, approx $56mil) POR will need to be somewhere in that vicinity under the cap in order to sign him

Hard to predict what other salaries will be on the books by then. Camara (if he does not take the 4yr/$89 deal) will be at\north of $30mil, Sharpe (if he doesn't take the Smith Jr 5yr\$122 deal) will also be north of $30, Scoot will be at $30? $35, Yang @ $7.5, Clingan's cap hold will be @ $29m, 1-2 or more draft picks at anywhere from $10-15mil is ikely & it is doubtful they would not have a few other contracts on the books as well 3 years from now

That is roughly $146 or so, not factoring in any other salary on the books 4 years from now, leaving $36+ mil or so, likely not enough. So doable yes, but the big part you are ignoring is that he will be free to go wherever he wants and POR has no sway, that is a huge risk and signing him a year earlier is just as\if not more problematic given the $73+ mil owed to Jrue & Grant