ImageImageImage

2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5

User avatar
3ammy3uck3ts
RealGM
Posts: 37,724
And1: 50,974
Joined: Nov 11, 2021
 

Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1261 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:01 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Wiggins and Rozier for Lebron and Bronny is oddly an exact salary match lol. That’s pretty much all we should be sending. Maybe toss in a 2nd rd pick. Would be sort of a last dance type deal like when we got Wade from the Cavs for a 2nd.


If he’s signing an extension and ending his career here after year 3 or whatever I’d be down to throw in a 1st but yea if he’s playing 1 more season that’d be a solid deal for sure. Would make the season(s) a hell of a lot more interesting at least and I’m sure any owner would love to be hosting the LeBron farewell tour.

Absolutely zero reason to throw in any young assets for a 41 year old Lebron i don’t care how well he’s playing. He basically should be treated as a free agent via trade at this stage. A token 2nd is about it. I don’t see any teams around the league he would want to go to that’s built to send 54 million in contracts for him. Honestly we may be the only team that he could come to that’s built to send out a Rozier and Wiggins and still have the entire team core intact.


Sign me up lol the less the better for me. Plus I’d say if we add him we’d likely be doing so in the event we tell him we’re going to do what it takes to win the championship
#FreeBam
#Klutch
User avatar
MettaWorldPanda
Forum Mod - Heat
Forum Mod - Heat
Posts: 51,189
And1: 160,937
Joined: Nov 16, 2014
     

Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1262 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:06 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:I feel like if LeBron stays he’s more likely to be 1 and done but if he leaves he’ll sign a 1-2 year extension if you can even add just 1 season idk if you can. Dont see him jumping ship and then just leaving his next team after 1 year but who knows. I also think he opted in because it’s much easier to get a trade done that way.

If he gets traded he’ll probably sign a one year max and do a farewell tour. No better place to do that than here like how we did with Wade’s farewell tour. We love the ticket sales and attention farewell tours bring lol
User avatar
MettaWorldPanda
Forum Mod - Heat
Forum Mod - Heat
Posts: 51,189
And1: 160,937
Joined: Nov 16, 2014
     

Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1263 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:08 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
If he’s signing an extension and ending his career here after year 3 or whatever I’d be down to throw in a 1st but yea if he’s playing 1 more season that’d be a solid deal for sure. Would make the season(s) a hell of a lot more interesting at least and I’m sure any owner would love to be hosting the LeBron farewell tour.

Absolutely zero reason to throw in any young assets for a 41 year old Lebron i don’t care how well he’s playing. He basically should be treated as a free agent via trade at this stage. A token 2nd is about it. I don’t see any teams around the league he would want to go to that’s built to send 54 million in contracts for him. Honestly we may be the only team that he could come to that’s built to send out a Rozier and Wiggins and still have the entire team core intact.


Sign me up lol the less the better for me. Plus I’d say if we add him we’d likely be doing so in the event we tell him we’re going to do what it takes to win the championship

The team is built right now for him to come in and lead this team to a championship. A vet min or two signing to round out the roster.
User avatar
3ammy3uck3ts
RealGM
Posts: 37,724
And1: 50,974
Joined: Nov 11, 2021
 

Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1264 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:12 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Absolutely zero reason to throw in any young assets for a 41 year old Lebron i don’t care how well he’s playing. He basically should be treated as a free agent via trade at this stage. A token 2nd is about it. I don’t see any teams around the league he would want to go to that’s built to send 54 million in contracts for him. Honestly we may be the only team that he could come to that’s built to send out a Rozier and Wiggins and still have the entire team core intact.


Sign me up lol the less the better for me. Plus I’d say if we add him we’d likely be doing so in the event we tell him we’re going to do what it takes to win the championship

The team is built right now for him to come in and lead this team to a championship. A vet min or two signing to round out the roster.


Agreed, we have some good complementary pieces for sure. He brings the superstar and playmaking we’ve been missing all in one
#FreeBam
#Klutch
Johnny Fontane
General Manager
Posts: 8,131
And1: 13,998
Joined: Jun 09, 2018

Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1265 » by Johnny Fontane » Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:15 pm

Feels like another team going to swoop in and offers some ridiculous package for Lebron. Of course you have the Cleveland angle too that team is basically already in the finals for next season in the barren east. Lebron returning again instantly becomes the top storyline for the nba
User avatar
MettaWorldPanda
Forum Mod - Heat
Forum Mod - Heat
Posts: 51,189
And1: 160,937
Joined: Nov 16, 2014
     

Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1266 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:18 pm

Johnny Fontane wrote:Feels like another team going to swoop in and offers some ridiculous package for Lebron. Of course you have the Cleveland angle too that team is basically already in the finals for next season in the barren east. Lebron returning again instantly becomes the top storyline for the nba

Cavs don’t have realistic pieces to trade for him unless they want to throw in Garland which trading any young players for a 1-2 year 40 plus year old player sounds absurd.
User avatar
MettaWorldPanda
Forum Mod - Heat
Forum Mod - Heat
Posts: 51,189
And1: 160,937
Joined: Nov 16, 2014
     

Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1267 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:22 pm

Would be a sweet swan song for both Riley and James. I kinda hope it happens. Real key under the mat feel good NBA telenovela subplot lol
greg4012
General Manager
Posts: 8,054
And1: 12,378
Joined: Jul 14, 2008

Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1268 » by greg4012 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:23 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Absolutely zero reason to throw in any young assets for a 41 year old Lebron i don’t care how well he’s playing. He basically should be treated as a free agent via trade at this stage. A token 2nd is about it. I don’t see any teams around the league he would want to go to that’s built to send 54 million in contracts for him. Honestly we may be the only team that he could come to that’s built to send out a Rozier and Wiggins and still have the entire team core intact.


Sign me up lol the less the better for me. Plus I’d say if we add him we’d likely be doing so in the event we tell him we’re going to do what it takes to win the championship

The team is built right now for him to come in and lead this team to a championship. A vet min or two signing to round out the roster.


For the sake of the exercise:

Mitchell - Pelle/Bronny
Herro - Powell - Pelle
LeBron - Jaquez/Highsmith
Bam - Jovic
Ware - Bam

Most of the 96 minutes among guards split between Hero, Powell & Mitchell (mix & match skillsets). LeBron focusing on playmaking and scoring and letting those around him handle everything else sounds pretty nice. He can get back to playing with a dynamic defender and physical finisher like he enjoyed with AD plus Ware as a freaky finisher. Load manage Bron

Range of lineups would be pretty awesome. That would def be a fun team.
User avatar
3ammy3uck3ts
RealGM
Posts: 37,724
And1: 50,974
Joined: Nov 11, 2021
 

Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1269 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:27 pm

Johnny Fontane wrote:Feels like another team going to swoop in and offers some ridiculous package for Lebron. Of course you have the Cleveland angle too that team is basically already in the finals for next season in the barren east. Lebron returning again instantly becomes the top storyline for the nba


He has a NTC im pretty sure so he can turn down whatever team he wants and I’m sure he already has the 1 team he wants in mind. Everything he does is calculated and he’s not just going to finish his career anywhere.
#FreeBam
#Klutch
User avatar
3ammy3uck3ts
RealGM
Posts: 37,724
And1: 50,974
Joined: Nov 11, 2021
 

Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1270 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:32 pm

Cleveland’s in the 2nd apron so they can’t aggregate contracts in a trade and idk how easy it would be for them to get out. They would have to move mountains to bring LeBron back and I think I read they weren’t very interested in breaking up the young core to do it.

Dallas could be interesting with the Lakers returning the favor for Luka and letting LeBron team back up with Kyrie and AD while mentoring Flagg but I still think that’s pretty tough to do salary wise and they’re still in the west. If he wants to win his best bet is to come out East where “Achilles gate” has taken over the conference
#FreeBam
#Klutch
Johnny Fontane
General Manager
Posts: 8,131
And1: 13,998
Joined: Jun 09, 2018

Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1271 » by Johnny Fontane » Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:40 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Johnny Fontane wrote:Feels like another team going to swoop in and offers some ridiculous package for Lebron. Of course you have the Cleveland angle too that team is basically already in the finals for next season in the barren east. Lebron returning again instantly becomes the top storyline for the nba

Cavs don’t have realistic pieces to trade for him unless they want to throw in Garland which trading any young players for a 1-2 year 40 plus year old player sounds absurd.


Why not Lebron returning back home in a 3 or 4 team deal to reroute garland elsewhere. Lakers get another player to team with Luka and potentially Jokic in a few years. Could be a potential go all in for 1 or 2 seasons for Cleveland before Lebron completely falls off
Johnny Fontane
General Manager
Posts: 8,131
And1: 13,998
Joined: Jun 09, 2018

Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1272 » by Johnny Fontane » Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:43 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Johnny Fontane wrote:Feels like another team going to swoop in and offers some ridiculous package for Lebron. Of course you have the Cleveland angle too that team is basically already in the finals for next season in the barren east. Lebron returning again instantly becomes the top storyline for the nba


He has a NTC im pretty sure so he can turn down whatever team he wants and I’m sure he already has the 1 team he wants in mind. Everything he does is calculated and he’s not just going to finish his career anywhere.


What else is out there for him. Surely a endearing return to Cleveland is in the cards
User avatar
3ammy3uck3ts
RealGM
Posts: 37,724
And1: 50,974
Joined: Nov 11, 2021
 

Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1273 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:53 pm

Johnny Fontane wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Johnny Fontane wrote:Feels like another team going to swoop in and offers some ridiculous package for Lebron. Of course you have the Cleveland angle too that team is basically already in the finals for next season in the barren east. Lebron returning again instantly becomes the top storyline for the nba


He has a NTC im pretty sure so he can turn down whatever team he wants and I’m sure he already has the 1 team he wants in mind. Everything he does is calculated and he’s not just going to finish his career anywhere.


What else is out there for him. Surely a endearing return to Cleveland is in the cards


They have to do a lot of work to get out of that 2nd apron and there’s not many places left that they can dump salary. They’ll have to attach assets to dump salary if they can find someone who has space and then you’re trading a 26 year old all star for a 41 year old who has 3 years at the very max left and you still have to find a way to match salary for LeBron in addition to garland so you’re losing assets and 3 key pieces at minimum for the LeBron farewell tour if I understand it all correctly.

Not saying they won’t do that but that’s asking A LOT to gut a team that just won 64 games but got bounced in the playoffs due to injury.

Read on Twitter


According to Bobby they would have to send out 6 players to get the deal done and they can’t even do that all in 1 deal without shedding salary and assets to do so first.

Read on Twitter


Read on Twitter
#FreeBam
#Klutch
CrossOver
Starter
Posts: 2,430
And1: 3,719
Joined: May 14, 2010
Location: Miami, FL
     

Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1274 » by CrossOver » Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:05 pm

Read on Twitter
Daffy
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,802
And1: 4,780
Joined: Jan 24, 2006

Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1275 » by Daffy » Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:07 pm

Grab Bron. Get him to commit for 1 more year after this year. Bring in Dame. Make that push this year and another push the following year with whatever is left of Dame as well.
User avatar
3ammy3uck3ts
RealGM
Posts: 37,724
And1: 50,974
Joined: Nov 11, 2021
 

Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1276 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:17 pm

Daffy wrote:Grab Bron. Get him to commit for 1 more year after this year. Bring in Dame. Make that push this year and another push the following year with whatever is left of Dame as well.


Forgot about Dame, yes do this. Nice blend of older guys and youth.
#FreeBam
#Klutch
User avatar
Enso
General Manager
Posts: 8,848
And1: 26,389
Joined: Apr 16, 2014
Location: MTL
 

Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1277 » by Enso » Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:23 pm

If LeBron can convince the lakers to not take too many of our assets I’d be down. Rozier, wiggins, a first and a second and I’m in. Maybe one young guy like JJJ.

Anything more than a first and a second and I’m not down fk that.

Ideally I don’t want to send any draft capital. He has enough leverage to get that done I think.
User avatar
Beenie
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,906
And1: 9,736
Joined: Oct 24, 2016
 

Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1278 » by Beenie » Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:23 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Wiggins and Rozier for Lebron and Bronny is oddly an exact salary match lol. That’s pretty much all we should be sending. Maybe toss in a 2nd rd pick. Would be sort of a last dance type deal like when we got Wade from the Cavs for a 2nd.


Lebron would have to insist on Mia and only Mia for the Lakers to even consider this and also apply pressure on them to get it done.

Lots of ifs
User avatar
3ammy3uck3ts
RealGM
Posts: 37,724
And1: 50,974
Joined: Nov 11, 2021
 

Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1279 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:25 pm

CrossOver wrote:
Read on Twitter


Every report coming out about this situation is gearing up for a LeBron trade or in an even wilder event, a buyout.
#FreeBam
#Klutch
User avatar
Enso
General Manager
Posts: 8,848
And1: 26,389
Joined: Apr 16, 2014
Location: MTL
 

Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1280 » by Enso » Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:26 pm

LeBron is smart he’s setting the narrative via the press in case he does want to leave. Classic Bron Pr move.

Return to Miami Heat