2025 Summer League

[The Consiglieri]

Can’t believe he went 42nd

Read on Twitter

Huge steal, I know how everyone was pissed we didn't steal him as they did, any evidence he was a target for us though? I don't think he was.

[The Consiglieri]

This is also a good time to remind everyone that Summer League means nothing.

Pretty much the only thing you can ever glean from Summer League play is when a guy doesn't hold up to NBA standards athletically. If a guy who scored in college can't get any separation at the NBA level, then that's a red flag (see Johnny Davis). Other than that, nothing matters.

+10000

The Sarr paranoia last year was ridiculous and infected perceptions of him into January.

[The Consiglieri]

This is also a good time to remind everyone that Summer League means nothing.

Pretty much the only thing you can ever glean from Summer League play is when a guy doesn't hold up to NBA standards athletically. If a guy who scored in college can't get any separation at the NBA level, then that's a red flag (see Johnny Davis). Other than that, nothing matters.

In other words, if a player shines during SL it doesn’t mean he’s gonna be an all-star and if he struggles it doesn’t mean he’s gonna be a bust.

Come-on guys, does Summer League still require a disclaimer, everyone is just having fun with it

The way people reacted to Sarr's 0 for, definitely suggests it requires a disclaimer. People took until the trade deadline in some instances to finally stop assuming Sarr as an NBA player was just the ---- show he appeared to be in a handful of games in the summer, ratherthan the accumulation of all the experience he was between July through February. It was insane and it was absolutely all over the place in here. He may still end up a bust, I have no idea, but how many people just got stuck on take lock with vividness bias after that awful July was astounding. Probably PTSD from Johnny Davis two years earlier.

[NatP4]

Presti did it again…

In fairness, Presti already had a top 2-3 team int he league going into the '24 draft, so he could draft for value with no risk, and Topic was an absolute no brainer, otoh, how low was Topic on most people's boards pre-injury particularly? For me, Topic was who I wanted the Wiz to take if they didn't land the 1.01 or 1.02, and I didn't care if he was hurt because we weren't trying to win anyway. Nobody taken ahead of him after Sarr was more attractive to me than him at the time. Castle was interesting but made me nervous, I had zero interest in Sheppard, Holland was either gonna be a stud or a mega bust (and was drafted far ahead of expectations), Salaun climbed up like Bilal, but seemingly for less justifiable reason other than the class being ----, I had zero interest in the Clingan and Edey options (although I was on team Edey in the fierce debate on the board, I always added the caveat: I would take neither in the lottery), Dillingham nope, Cody Williams I can't remember, was interested in Buzelis, had no idea McCain was going to be that good, or Knecht, really loved Collier's value going that late, but yeah, looking at the board, Topic was basically my guy after Sarr. I also can honestly say, I knew squat about Bub and George and wasn't interested at the time, dug in, and liked what I read about Bub, not about George, and ended up loving both guys.

Agreed. I like Carrington and George. Think Carrington could top out as a Brogdon type of quality starter. George could become a Cam Johnson type. Both of them are a huge part of building the culture.

Had Topic/Sheppard/Sarr as my top 3. Think the Wizards would’ve passed on Topic regardless because he is a more ball dominant/traditional PG and doesn’t have ++ length.

[NatP4]

I’m interested in seeing:

1. Tre Johnson’s defensive effort/focus/motor/awareness. This is the major swing factor in him potentially becoming a Khris Middleton type instead of a Malik Monk.

2. Carrington’s improvement in getting downhill/creating advantages/getting to the rim. Don’t think he’ll ever be a guy that beats people with a quick first step, but he can potentially get stronger and bully guys to get paint touches.

3. Will Riley shot creation skills. Intrigued by a 6’9 guy with legit guard/shot creation skills. He’s probably going to run the 2nd unit.

4. George 3pt shooting. He has elite shooting/floor spacing ability, want to see him be efficient.

5. Sarr-all around game. He should be pretty dominant as a former 2nd overall pick playing in his 2nd Summer League.

[nate33]

I’m interested in seeing:

1. Tre Johnson’s defensive effort/focus/motor/awareness. This is the major swing factor in him potentially becoming a Khris Middleton type instead of a Malik Monk.

2. Carrington’s improvement in getting downhill/creating advantages/getting to the rim. Don’t think he’ll ever be a guy that beats people with a quick first step, but he can potentially get stronger and bully guys to get paint touches.

3. Will Riley shot creation skills. Intrigued by a 6’9 guy with legit guard/shot creation skills. He’s probably going to run the 2nd unit.

4. George 3pt shooting. He has elite shooting/floor spacing ability, want to see him be efficient.

5. Sarr-all around game. He should be pretty dominant as a former 2nd overall pick playing in his 2nd Summer League.

Good list.

I'm also interested in seeing if Kyshawn and Bub look physically bigger and stronger than the last time we saw them. I'm not expecting a massive change though. It's only been 3 months. There's another 3 months to go before the next season starts.

[AFM]

I’m not really expecting to see a lot of defense played period, so I’m looking forward to the overreactions to Johnson’s lack of D tonight

I agree with the rest of the list. Honestly Sarr should look like a beast.

[closg00]

I’m not really expecting to see a lot of defense played period, so I’m looking forward to the overreactions to Johnson’s lack of D tonight

I agree with the rest of the list. Honestly Sarr should look like a beast.

Ahem, there is the small matter of Alex going-up against Maluach, PHX also has CJ Huntley and Oso Ighodaro, so it won't be a cake walk.

[AFM]

Watch on YouTube

Some of you really liked him, Im forgetting who

[tontoz]

Some of you really liked him, Im forgetting who

Funny that he was picked at 7 since that is the number of turnovers he had in his first game.

[closg00]

Watch on YouTube

Some of you really liked him, Im forgetting who

I agreed with the FO when they were considering him, but he also has a long way to go, this is really his freshman year in college

[gesa2]

Yeah, Len Bias was the truth. RIP

For someone out on the west coast, that only saw Georgetown Big East games occasionally and never Maryland, what was he like? Any comps?

He wasn’t quite the elite athlete (few have been) but with his ability to pop off the ground and get his shot off anyone I think he was similar to Dominique Wilkins. Maybe a combination of him and pre injury Bernard King. He was a men amongst boys in the ACC which was the best league in the country at the time.

[dobrojim]

Yeah, Len Bias was the truth. RIP

For someone out on the west coast, that only saw Georgetown Big East games occasionally and never Maryland, what was he like? Any comps?

the SF version of MJ

[tontoz]

Yeah, Len Bias was the truth. RIP

For someone out on the west coast, that only saw Georgetown Big East games occasionally and never Maryland, what was he like? Any comps?

the SF version of MJ

I saw Bias on campus a few times. His thighs were huge. Strong athletic guy with good hops and a high release which made his jumper almost unblockable.

Functional handles but not great. Could shoot off the dribble no problem. No playmaking ability though.

Watch on YouTube

[mhd]

This is also a good time to remind everyone that Summer League means nothing.

Pretty much the only thing you can ever glean from Summer League play is when a guy doesn't hold up to NBA standards athletically. If a guy who scored in college can't get any separation at the NBA level, then that's a red flag (see Johnny Davis). Other than that, nothing matters.

In other words, if a player shines during SL it doesn’t mean he’s gonna be an all-star and if he struggles it doesn’t mean he’s gonna be a bust.

Oh, I knew Davis was a bust at Summer league. I gave him a bit of a pass figuring it’s summer league, but he looked wretched. By the time preseason rolled around, I knew he was a bust. Like sarr had a bad sl last year, but you could see the athleticism and length easily. Davis just sucked from the start

[doclinkin]

Yeah, Len Bias was the truth. RIP

For someone out on the west coast, that only saw Georgetown Big East games occasionally and never Maryland, what was he like? Any comps?

Pure pure natural athlete. Near MJ level ability to pause time at the top of his jumper & levitate a second before the release. Like a bigger forward-sized MJ — though maybe without the same competitive rage. Because only Kobe has matched that. Still. He would’ve been an all star by accident. Can’t fail level of pure athleticism.

[Northwest Roddy]

I can’t wait to overreact. Other teams’ Summer league games are so boring, but i always live and die with how the new Wiz do. Wall’s summer league was a favourite. I think we all have particularly high hopes this year.

[Northwest Roddy]

And Len Bias was the truth. These comparisons are unacceptable.

[AFM]

Watch on YouTube

[tontoz]

This might be the first time I've ever looked forward to watching summer league.