Around the NBA (Part Three)

[WolfAddict]

I can see why some second round picks and their agents did not want the wolves to select them at 31.

Because they don't care about winning?

As Flip used to say, we over me....

I'd say all pro athletes care about winning to a certain degree, but they have to make money as well and being glued to end of a bench with DNPs tanks their value regardless of "winning"

[dschroeder01]

Meh, that's fine....

I honestly think part of the "issue" we're seeing is that we have so much depth that guys feel like they can find better opportunities elsewhere. The only potential roles out there are PG and C, and even then we have our last two 1st round picks and two of our most trustworthy veterans at those positions. So I don't blame guys who would rather go elsewhere.

Or players know Finch is a coach that does not utilize his entire bench (or give young players chances to develop ) and prefers to just play 8-9 at most. I can see why some second round picks and their agents did not want the wolves to select them at 31.

Just curious how are you pitching the FA PG we need and then how are you integrating them? What's the minutes distribution? How much is Rob playing? Are you just totally diminishing Conley? Where are you cutting minutes from to get this 3rd PG time?

There seems to be this push that Finch is souring young guys on being on the team, but the opposite is rarely discussed. Would we rather Finch have the reputation of giving minutes to vets who have earned it or to prioritizing unproven youth from getting frustrated? Take DDV for example. He was coming off a really good year and playoffs with the Knicks. He felt and still feels (as it seems anyway) that he's a starting level guard. How would DDV respond and what message does it send to other proven vets if he gets more of his minutes cut in the name of development or creating time for a 3rd PG? Would we rather Finch was known as a coach who didn't respect proven vets?

By no means am I saying Finch is perfect. He certainly can do a better job of integrating more guys, but it's not an easy proposition. There are only 240 minutes.

[Shaka_Zulu]

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[Klomp]

Please dont tell me we losing Michael Grady? I dont think I would be able to deal with that.

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[Shaka_Zulu]

Please dont tell me we losing Michael Grady? I dont think I would be able to deal with that.

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[TimberKat]

So OKC is going to have 2 Max + 1 SuperMax contract on their books going forward. Compare that with Ant, Towns, Gobert ( below max) as core, Wolves aren't that bad. Max is basically the top 2 or 3 guys on every team. I though you can only have two max on a team. How they managed to get 3?

[shangrila]

Meh, that's fine....

I honestly think part of the "issue" we're seeing is that we have so much depth that guys feel like they can find better opportunities elsewhere. The only potential roles out there are PG and C, and even then we have our last two 1st round picks and two of our most trustworthy veterans at those positions. So I don't blame guys who would rather go elsewhere.

Or players know Finch is a coach that does not utilize his entire bench (or give young players chances to develop ) and prefers to just play 8-9 at most. I can see why some second round picks and their agents did not want the wolves to select them at 31.

Most teams don't go more than 9 deep, so that wouldn't make sense to me.

I think more likely there just isn't a path to guaranteed playing time. Take Rasheer Fleming, for example; he's a pure 4, maybe small ball 5. On our team that leaves him competing directly with Randle and Reid, partly with Gobert, and we've got youth at both positions in Beringer and Miller (not arguing he's better, just that he's there). Might make an agent antsy for a "ready now" kind of guy.

Rocco is more of a project so I wouldn't be surprised if his reps thought a reportedly good developmental team like us would fit for him, combined with a starter that's aging out that already plays a similar style stylistically (so an easier "fit").

[Klomp]

So OKC is going to have 2 Max + 1 SuperMax contract on their books going forward. Compare that with Ant, Towns, Gobert ( below max) as core, Wolves aren't that bad. Max is basically the top 2 or 3 guys on every team. I though you can only have two max on a team. How they managed to get 3?

Chet and Jalen are both rookie maxes (25%). I think that's the one that can have two.

[BlacJacMac]

So OKC is going to have 2 Max + 1 SuperMax contract on their books going forward. Compare that with Ant, Towns, Gobert ( below max) as core, Wolves aren't that bad. Max is basically the top 2 or 3 guys on every team. I though you can only have two max on a team. How they managed to get 3?

2 Super Max I think?

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Oklahoma City Thunder All-NBA star and champion Jalen Williams has agreed to a five-year maximum rookie contract extension that could reach $287 million, agents Bill Duffy and Justin Haynes of WME Basketball told ESPN on Thursday.

Gilgeous-Alexander officially signed a four-year, $285 million supermax Tuesday, and Holmgren reached a five-year, $250 million max Wednesday -- with the three new extensions totaling up to $822 million.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45711264/jalen-williams-thunder-agree-max-rookie-extension

[Domejandro]

So OKC is going to have 2 Max + 1 SuperMax contract on their books going forward. Compare that with Ant, Towns, Gobert ( below max) as core, Wolves aren't that bad. Max is basically the top 2 or 3 guys on every team. I though you can only have two max on a team. How they managed to get 3?

2 Super Max I think?

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Oklahoma City Thunder All-NBA star and champion Jalen Williams has agreed to a five-year maximum rookie contract extension that could reach $287 million, agents Bill Duffy and Justin Haynes of WME Basketball told ESPN on Thursday.

Gilgeous-Alexander officially signed a four-year, $285 million supermax Tuesday, and Holmgren reached a five-year, $250 million max Wednesday -- with the three new extensions totaling up to $822 million.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45711264/jalen-williams-thunder-agree-max-rookie-extension

Supermax is 35%, rookie designated max, rookie designated max (I believe) is 25% with incentives to bump it up to 30%.

[KGdaBom]

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[younggunsmn]

So OKC is going to have 2 Max + 1 SuperMax contract on their books going forward. Compare that with Ant, Towns, Gobert ( below max) as core, Wolves aren't that bad. Max is basically the top 2 or 3 guys on every team. I though you can only have two max on a team. How they managed to get 3?

Chet and Jalen are both rookie maxes (25%). I think that's the one that can have two.

Reading between the lines I think Williams has Rose Rule language (Supermax escalator clause) in his.
Or he would be limited to the amount that Chet got.

[minimus]

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[KGdaBom]

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I wanted him. Maybe we should try to sign him. What agreement does he have with Dallas? Is it breakable?

[minimus]

I wanted him. Maybe we should try to sign him. What agreement does he have with Dallas? Is it breakable?

I dont know but maybe TC is waiting for guys like Dame, Marcus Smart, Delon Wright, Brogdon etc?

[Norseman79]

Could be lots of things, including waiting to see where Rob and Mike are before making a move. Lord forgive me, Simmons on a vet min is sounding ok?

[BlacJacMac]

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I really like him, but I question if he's going to be effective against actual NBA players.

5'11 with a 6'2 wingspan.

[minimus]

I really like him, but I question if he's going to be effective against actual NBA players.

5'11 with a 6'2 wingspan.

I think he will be a good 3rd string, emergency backup PG in NBA.

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