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[machu46]

Via East Side Paul (come post you lurker!):

Doc Rivers on Myles Turner

“You couldn’t have a more perfect fit. He can switch on defense. He can roam. Play multiple positions. He can shoot, stretch the defense. We got younger. He’s younger than Giannis”

Focus on this year

“Pace. We have to pick up the pace”

Then goes on talk about putting the ball in Giannis hands as the point guard and featuring him in that role this season

Kevin Porter Jr

“Of all the guys on our team, he’s going to have the biggest jump this year.”

Said he became more of a point guard later in the season, playmaking, going downhill, instead of just “dancing”

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The part where Doc was like "I wish I could say I was a genius but we were basically forced to play Giannis more as a point" was a classic example of how I think he wins people over despite the coaching results not actually being very good; he's a very personable dude. Unfortunate he isn't a better coach.

At any rate, I liked his mention about how teams are trending towards picking the ball handler up full court now and that one of the advantages of having Giannis bring it up is that nobody wants to risk pressuring him in the backcourt. Was actually a pretty good point that I don't think many people really think of as a benefit of playing through Giannis more.

[machu46]

Doc also said in that clip he thinks both AJ Green and GTJ will have breakout years for us.

This team is high on the kids it’s not just a realgm dot com thing.

For some reason, I always think of Gary Trent as like a 32 year old. Deep down, I knew he was young, but someone mentioned a few weeks back that he was only 26 or something and it had me shook. He just doesn't really play or look like a mid-20s guy to me I guess.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

I am sure ESPN will run this clip of Doc talking about Giannis playing point guard this coming season.

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I'm still just shocked that it took Doc 1.5 years as his head coach and presumably years of watching Giannis to come up with this crazy idea to get him the ball right away and surround him with shooters.

[MikeIsGood]

Doc also said in that clip he thinks both AJ Green and GTJ will have breakout years for us.

This team is high on the kids it’s not just a realgm dot com thing.

For some reason, I always think of Gary Trent as like a 32 year old. Deep down, I knew he was young, but someone mentioned a few weeks back that he was only 26 or something and it had me shook. He just doesn't really play or look like a mid-20s guy to me I guess.

Same. I always forget he was a one-and-done; in the league at 19.

[machu46]

Crap. I did forget to mention it was for a significant player. I was drinking and it was during a golf tournament I was playing in.

I actually mentioned RJ Barrett and he just said "He didn't name names".

Ha well now we can get into day drinking semantics of what a significant player would entail.

Kuminga seems more significant to me than Barrett but they both qualify.

Quickley would as well.

Malik Monk significant-ish? Idk if he'd qualify (at least I hope not).

Anfernee Simons could be a possibility too:

“I have talked to other teams that have said the Celtics are actively trying to trade Anfernee Simons,” Windhorst said on the “Hoops Collective” podcast. “Whether they can or not is another [thing].”

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2025/07/09/boston-celtics-trade-rumors-anfernee-simons-brian-windhorst-nba-basketball/

Who knows really but I personally would not think the source means someone like Monk or Simons when they say "significant".

Oh when I see "significant" my mind immediately goes to Demar DeRozan. I hate that I think it's a legit possibility.

As long as it’s just Kuzma and Jackson Jr, we could do worse than Derozan.

I would probably rather just keep Kuzma if we're just getting DeRozan. I have to think if we're trading Kuzma, it's probably him and one of the future 1sts for someone with more upside than 36 year old DeRozan. It would also feel criminal for Doc to say we need to play with more pace last night and then go out and swap Kuzma for DeRozan lol.

[rayallenscalves]

The part where Doc was like "I wish I could say I was a genius but we were basically forced to play Giannis more as a point" was a classic example of how I think he wins people over despite the coaching results not actually being very good; he's a very personable dude. Unfortunate he isn't a better coach.

At any rate, I liked his mention about how teams are trending towards picking the ball handler up full court now and that one of the advantages of having Giannis bring it up is that nobody wants to risk pressuring him in the backcourt. Was actually a pretty good point that I don't think many people really think of as a benefit of playing through Giannis more.

I actually kind of hate that he brought up Giannis as the up-the-court ball handler. Unless he's playing some mind games, that gives teams all offseason to plan for Giannis bringing it up. While Giannis is certainly dangerous, his height means a high dribble and he's always been a little loose with it. Stick a shorter guard on him (e.g., Caruso-ish), and that could lead to a ton of turnovers.

That's not to mention what bringing the ball up will do to his overall endurance. That's a lot of work, which could result in reduced efficiency on offense and effort on defense.

[skbucks1985]

Doc also said in that clip he thinks both AJ Green and GTJ will have breakout years for us.

This team is high on the kids it’s not just a realgm dot com thing.

For some reason, I always think of Gary Trent as like a 32 year old. Deep down, I knew he was young, but someone mentioned a few weeks back that he was only 26 or something and it had me shook. He just doesn't really play or look like a mid-20s guy to me I guess.

Same. I always forget he was a one-and-done; in the league at 19.

You want to know something crazy: Gary Trent is only a year older than Terrence Shannon

[machu46]

The part where Doc was like "I wish I could say I was a genius but we were basically forced to play Giannis more as a point" was a classic example of how I think he wins people over despite the coaching results not actually being very good; he's a very personable dude. Unfortunate he isn't a better coach.

At any rate, I liked his mention about how teams are trending towards picking the ball handler up full court now and that one of the advantages of having Giannis bring it up is that nobody wants to risk pressuring him in the backcourt. Was actually a pretty good point that I don't think many people really think of as a benefit of playing through Giannis more.

I actually kind of hate that he brought up Giannis as the up-the-court ball handler. Unless he's playing some mind games, that gives teams all offseason to plan for Giannis bringing it up. While Giannis is certainly dangerous, his height means a high dribble and he's always been a little loose with it. Stick a shorter guard on him (e.g., Caruso-ish), and that could lead to a ton of turnovers.

That's not to mention what bringing the ball up will do to his overall endurance. That's a lot of work, which could result in reduced efficiency on offense and effort on defense.

With Giannis' arms, putting someone as small as Caruso on him in the fullcourt probably just results in Giannis being able to push the ball out in front of him without any fear of Caruso being able to reach, and I don't think many teams will be in a hurry to invite Giannis to play 5 on 4 on offense potentially with a full head of steam coming down hill.

[Wisky4life]

Kuzma for Barrett and a pick.

Gets them under that tax. Do it!

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[Ron Swanson]

Doc is absolutely gonna run Giannis into the ground this year. If you guys aren't ready for that, then you should be. Of all the reasons why I never wanted Doc (or to lesser extent, guys like Thibs and Nurse), that was arguably the biggest one.

[soxperry]

Oh when I see "significant" my mind immediately goes to Demar DeRozan. I hate that I think it's a legit possibility.

There are some positives there. Mainly that it wouldnt cost us anything beyond Kuzma. It would also provide a clear pecking order and slot kpj into a third fiddle role. DeRozan commands some respect where as Barrett is simply competition and who knows how that plays out in the locker room.

We had it very good for a long time where the personalities we brought in all meshed seamlessly. I think Turner is going to be another great fit with Giannis and Bobby. The asset of Barrett sounds good but i know nothing pf hos personality. Fans dont think about that much but it natters when you already have kpj on the squad.

[raferfenix]

It would also feel criminal for Doc to say we need to play with more pace last night and then go out and swap Kuzma for DeRozan lol.

This gives me hope it isn’t DeRozan.

At least on his own.

Keon Ellis or Devin Carter would be the real targets if they were involved.

But DeRozan would still be a bad fit with an even worse history in the playoffs.

[midranger]

Oh when I see "significant" my mind immediately goes to Demar DeRozan. I hate that I think it's a legit possibility.

Dejounte Murray
CJ McCullom
Jrue Holiday

Feel like other “significant” names

[The Wet Whistle]

Wemby is pretty significant. It's probably him

[tedbrogen]

Oh when I see "significant" my mind immediately goes to Demar DeRozan. I hate that I think it's a legit possibility.

DD being a below average three point shooter for his entire career outside of that one fluke season in Chicago while also being low volume on threes would be a horrific fit with GA. So he’d only work if you only played him 15mpg when GA was off the floor and let him handle the offense for those minutes, but that won’t happen. He averaged 36mpg last season. He’s not going to be cool with a reduction.

[machu46]

Doc is absolutely gonna run Giannis into the ground this year. If you guys aren't ready for that, then you should be. Of all the reasons why I never wanted Doc (or to lesser extent, guys like Thibs and Nurse), that was arguably the biggest one.

Honestly I don't think we really have a choice with the construction of this roster. Maybe with another coach we'd be pursuing different players, but as currently constructed, we don't really have any option outside of asking Giannis to create everything for us on the offensive end (and hoping Porter can step up in this regard).

[CharityStripe34]

I don't see Kuzma being moved until the deadline or somewhere around there.

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[tedbrogen]

Oh when I see "significant" my mind immediately goes to Demar DeRozan. I hate that I think it's a legit possibility.

As long as it’s just Kuzma and Jackson Jr, we could do worse than Derozan.

He’s a 30% three point shooter on low volume for his whole career. He’s only efficient because he draws a ton of fouls. We saw with Dame that since GA draws the most fouls in the league, the officials won’t give anyone else on the team a friendly whistle.

He’ll kill the spacing in offense, get roasted on D, play slow, and take the ball out of GA’s hands.

[paulpressey25]

Doc is absolutely gonna run Giannis into the ground this year. If you guys aren't ready for that, then you should be. Of all the reasons why I never wanted Doc (or to lesser extent, guys like Thibs and Nurse), that was arguably the biggest one.

I’m ok with it. I think we learned the last two years that Giannis does not want to play center. He wants to play PG. he loves that. So let’s give it to him since he’s our best option there.

Does it wear him down over the years? Maybe, maybe not. But I want this team to win 50 and top four seed. I’m not concerned about where Giannis body is come 2028 when he might want to be in Houston.

[paulpressey25]

I fear they're going to do the panicky all-in trade now to appease Giannis, & the timing for it is terrible, while it will empty out the gun. Horst in trades is scary, and not in a good way. This isn't free agency anymore.

Bern, our future gets reloaded if/when Giannis is dealt. At this point tossing a 2031 or 2032 on the fire won’t matter, especially if we get a meaningful SG/SF.