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2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1321 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jul 11, 2025 5:56 pm

Beenie wrote:
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Hypothetically, if LAL wanted Jaquez or Jovic and decided to play hard ball, for one, I wouldnt regard them as "prime assets", and IMO should be a no brainer for Mia to make that deal.

I’ll toss in JJJ and let him go back home as line in the sand no other assets. Lebron will make Fontechccio famous anyway.


Niko is your line?

Lebron would directly affect his playing time and would short circuit any hope for meaningful development for Niko this year.

He can go if push came to shove

Not true at all. Niko would be fantastic with Lebron. Jovic is the PF off the bench in a 3 headed rotation with Ware and Bam. Jovic and Lebron can interchange with Lebron mostly playing the SF spot but also able to slide to PF in small ball lineups.

C Ware
PF/C Bam PF Jovic
SF/PF James

That’s the 5 man rotation with plenty of minutes for all.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1322 » by carnageta » Fri Jul 11, 2025 5:56 pm

Honestly, would rather us just get 'white' LeBron instead. He's a couple years younger







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Giddy/DMitchell/KP
Herro/Larrson/Dru
Powell/Jaime/Highsmith
Bam/Jovic/Fonteccio
Ware/Goldin/Keshad
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1323 » by Daffy » Fri Jul 11, 2025 5:56 pm

Can Niko or Jaime develop into a legit 6th man for us as a scoring option? Let's say avg about 14-16 ppg?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1324 » by Vertical Limit » Fri Jul 11, 2025 5:58 pm

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Vertical Limit wrote:If lebron is available, anyone but Bam is up for trades. All them empty seats we had last year, would be filled. The revenue he brings to the team, the city, makes it important for the Arison’s to strike a deal if its possible.

We are a definite playoff team with him.

All them jokes on Bronny, if he comes along in the trade, guess what he looks like a young prospect that has turned into an asset for the lakers.

Im all for it. And by the way, we need to fix that relationship with Klutch because Rich Paul is not going away and his client list gets bigger by the year.


Dude I would not trade Herro, Ware, Jovic, or any FRPs for 41 year old LeBron. We need depth more than ever in today's NBA, and LeBron is going to load manage and miss 20 games a season.

Wiggins, Rozier, and maybe Jaime/Highsmith if they're sending back Bronny or Knecht, but that's it.

Lebron is better than any of those players you just mentioned and not by a small margin, by a lot.

And by the way, no team in the league values those players like heat fans do. Delusion is big in this city
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1325 » by carnageta » Fri Jul 11, 2025 5:59 pm

Daffy wrote:Can Niko or Jaime develop into a legit 6th man for us as a scoring option? Let's say avg about 14-16 ppg?



I think both have the capabilities to do so.

Jaime averaged 12ppg in his rookie season. Jovic averaged 11ppg last season.


If given 30mins/game and opportunities to actually handle the ball, I think Niko could average 13-15ppg and 5 assists per game off of the bench. But Spo would need to play him, Bam, and Ware on the floor all-together for good chunks at a time.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1326 » by Daffy » Fri Jul 11, 2025 6:01 pm

Vertical Limit wrote:
carnageta wrote:
Vertical Limit wrote:If lebron is available, anyone but Bam is up for trades. All them empty seats we had last year, would be filled. The revenue he brings to the team, the city, makes it important for the Arison’s to strike a deal if its possible.

We are a definite playoff team with him.

All them jokes on Bronny, if he comes along in the trade, guess what he looks like a young prospect that has turned into an asset for the lakers.

Im all for it. And by the way, we need to fix that relationship with Klutch because Rich Paul is not going away and his client list gets bigger by the year.


Dude I would not trade Herro, Ware, Jovic, or any FRPs for 41 year old LeBron. We need depth more than ever in today's NBA, and LeBron is going to load manage and miss 20 games a season.

Wiggins, Rozier, and maybe Jaime/Highsmith if they're sending back Bronny or Knecht, but that's it.

Lebron is better than any of those players you just mentioned and not by a small margin, by a lot.

And by the way, no team in the league values those players like heat fans do. Delusion is big in this city


Yes he's better but you're forgetting the biggest thing. His age!!
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1327 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jul 11, 2025 6:04 pm

carnageta wrote:Honestly, would rather us just get 'white' LeBron instead. He's a couple years younger







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Giddy/DMitchell/KP
Herro/Larrson/Dru
Powell/Jaime/Highsmith
Bam/Jovic/Fonteccio
Ware/Goldin/Keshad


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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1328 » by Bishop45 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 6:05 pm

Bron's going to fulfil his lifelong dream of going to NY
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1329 » by carnageta » Fri Jul 11, 2025 6:06 pm

Vertical Limit wrote:
carnageta wrote:
Vertical Limit wrote:If lebron is available, anyone but Bam is up for trades. All them empty seats we had last year, would be filled. The revenue he brings to the team, the city, makes it important for the Arison’s to strike a deal if its possible.

We are a definite playoff team with him.

All them jokes on Bronny, if he comes along in the trade, guess what he looks like a young prospect that has turned into an asset for the lakers.

Im all for it. And by the way, we need to fix that relationship with Klutch because Rich Paul is not going away and his client list gets bigger by the year.


Dude I would not trade Herro, Ware, Jovic, or any FRPs for 41 year old LeBron. We need depth more than ever in today's NBA, and LeBron is going to load manage and miss 20 games a season.

Wiggins, Rozier, and maybe Jaime/Highsmith if they're sending back Bronny or Knecht, but that's it.

Lebron is better than any of those players you just mentioned and not by a small margin, by a lot.

And by the way, no team in the league values those players like heat fans do. Delusion is big in this city



KD is also better than all of those players by a wide margin, yet we didn't offer anywhere near that - and he's 4 years younger than LeBron lol.


Delusion is big in this city indeed if people think unloading the farm for 41 year old LeBron is a smart move lol.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1330 » by MiamiLoyal926 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 6:11 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:For the “LeBron doesn’t impact winning” crowd, the Lakers were tied for 2nd in the west last year with him leading the way and the numbers also back him having an impact on winning as well so that’s just flat out wrong. They just ran into a bad matchup in the playoffs against the massive Wolves due to bad roster construction and having no centers on their roster who could battle Randle/Gobert or deter Ant at the rim.


I give up man. It's the same thing everytime.

"Dame is declining." Pull the stats up without Giannis and he was the same Dame.

"KD doesn't add to winning." They ignore the bad roster construction and coaches around KD after GS.

"Bradley Beal sucks." They don't look at his numbers and advanced stats in Phoenix which shows he was just a bad fit for a team that didn't need his skill set.

A lot of opinions from fans are just media driven.


Proof is in the pudding though…

Dame’s age and playing profile was primed for a decline within two years of the trade… and guess what, it did.

KD has not been part of a meaningful playoff push since his dynasty team in GS, but has had plenty of really good players and stars around him on every team since leaving GS.

Beal has been on losing teams practically his whole career, which implies empty stats, and has a NTC to boot on an expensive contract.

Some people here hyper-fixate on shiny new toys they want to buy, and are willing to ignore actual evidence as to why that shiny new toy is not the foolproof plan they think it is. It’s more likely fools gold than a home run transaction.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1331 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jul 11, 2025 6:17 pm

Lebron would get all the attention to himself here. Just what he wants. With the addition of Powell we become instant contenders in the East just like that.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1332 » by Beenie » Fri Jul 11, 2025 6:19 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
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MettaWorldPanda wrote:I’ll toss in JJJ and let him go back home as line in the sand no other assets. Lebron will make Fontechccio famous anyway.


Niko is your line?

Lebron would directly affect his playing time and would short circuit any hope for meaningful development for Niko this year.

He can go if push came to shove

Not true at all. Niko would be fantastic with Lebron. Jovic is the PF off the bench in a 3 headed rotation with Ware and Bam. Jovic and Lebron can interchange with Lebron mostly playing the SF spot but also able to slide to PF in small ball lineups.

C Ware
PF/C Bam PF Jovic
SF/PF James

That’s the 5 man rotation with plenty of minutes for all.


In a lineup featuring Lebron, Jovic is completely redundant. Lebron would obviously be on-ball and any hope of Jovic developing into more of an on-ball playmaker would be cooked.

Between Bron, the guards, and Bam, Jovic would get relegated to spot up duties, per usual (not really developing)

Knowing Spo, Highsmith would be prioritized.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1333 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jul 11, 2025 6:21 pm

At 40 years of age and preparing for his 23rd NBA campaign, James' sole focus is on competing for titles. If he wishes to make another go at one last championship while remaining as the head of the snake for a prospective team, a hypothetical return to Miami may be in play.

If James were to star alongside the team's scoring backcourt of Norman Powell and Tyler Herro while being afforded the chance to run pick-and-roll with Bam Adebayo and Kel'el Ware, the Heat would automatically become favorites to come out of the Eastern Conference in 2025-26.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1334 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jul 11, 2025 6:41 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1335 » by Voltron914 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 6:42 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Some of you are making this trade complicated. Wiggins and Rozier that’s it. Lebron is essentially a free agent. Lakers get a suitable player in Wiggins and can just do whatever with Rozier as expiring contract. Any team giving up prime assets for Lebron right now does not make any sense.



I didnt even want to entertain it but the Pat Riley presser and Lebron drama makes the most sense that we trade for him. I doubt it gets us a championship but it would bring back fun basketball and give the youngins great exposure
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1336 » by Rapaz » Fri Jul 11, 2025 6:55 pm

Y’all don’t have even the remotest chance of getting Bron.

Keep your focus on more realistic targets like Komepinga.

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1337 » by MiamiLoyal926 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 7:08 pm

Rapaz wrote:Y’all don’t have even the remotest chance of getting Bron.

Keep your focus on more realistic targets like Komepinga.

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You are right… let’s think big… Cabron AND Komepinga!
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1338 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jul 11, 2025 7:15 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#1339 » by unowen85 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 7:17 pm

Rapaz wrote:Y’all don’t have even the remotest chance of getting Bron.

Keep your focus on more realistic targets like Komepinga.

Xoxo.


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