Offseason 2025 Thread

[SWedd523]

I also think treating Kon like he’s a shorter Darko Milicic is a rather interesting take. Base line role player when he hasn’t played an NBA game because he’s a white boy with a higher vert than cooper Flagg. Been interesting to read these. We will see how it works out.

I'd be interested to see you list a few guys who were star players with a similar physical profile

Edit: Kyle Korver was the last unathletic white boy who made an ASG that I can remember. I kind of also remember that being a sham because that Hawks team was the darlings of the league.

Trying to be positive here and you’re making me look like an ****. Trust me. Kon will be excellent.

As far as your center post. lol whatever.

I stand by that post for whatever reason.

Glad to see you stand by that post.

How would you feel about standing IN the post? Hornets need more size

[Chapelchilla]

Kon is not a hopeless case who was drafted solely because the Hornets are morons. Give the KID a chance. He is not a stiff non athlete with no skills.

[Bassman]

I think Kon will surprise some who believe he’s a stiff at the next level. But he’s also not going to suddenly develop jets on his feet. He's a good athlete with average hops and less speed laterally than you’d like in a SG. But he’s strong with a rugged base, can use that to gain some advantages. Looking forward to watching him and others tonight against an Utah team already primed with games under their belt.

Especially looking forward to seeing how all these rookies play. Need Kalk to show us early impact; hope he is the shocker of this entire draft (like “how did he fall to the second round” gasps from analysts type stuff). Big Tiddy watch is on…he’s got to be a lot better.

[SWedd523]

Kon is not a hopeless case who was drafted solely because the Hornets are morons. Give the KID a chance. He is not a stiff non athlete with no skills.

Testing would definitely seem to indicate that he is a stiff non athlete (by NBA standards)

[countryboi]

I think Kon will surprise some who believe he’s a stiff at the next level. But he’s also not going to suddenly develop jets on his feet. He's a good athlete with average hops and less speed laterally than you’d like in a SG. But he’s strong with a rugged base, can use that to gain some advantages. Looking forward to watching him and others tonight against an Utah team already primed with games under their belt.

Especially looking forward to seeing how all these rookies play. Need Kalk to show us early impact; hope he is the shocker of this entire draft (like “how did he fall to the second round” gasps from analysts type stuff). Big Tiddy watch is on…he’s got to be a lot better.

He is the type of player that would beast in the summer league

[Diop]

Edit: Kyle Korver was the last unathletic white boy who made an ASG that I can remember. I kind of also remember that being a sham because that Hawks team was the darlings of the league.

You consider Doncic athletic?

[Braggins]

Edit: Kyle Korver was the last unathletic white boy who made an ASG that I can remember. I kind of also remember that being a sham because that Hawks team was the darlings of the league.

You consider Doncic athletic?

He is in many ways. He is freakishly strong. He has elite body control, balance, and deceleration. Hes flexible/bendy.

Kon is strong, but hes stiff and doesn't have any of the other traits that help Doncic excel.

[yosemiteben]

I’m guessing if Collin Sexton went to the Wizards nobody here would be predicting them to double their wins

For the record if this is directed at me, I said if everyone stays healthy + the additions we've made, that's possible.

I don't expect to stay healthy.

[JMAC3]

Feels like a lot of the Kon discourse is very generalized, whether he will be good or bad. Which is probably an overcorrection based on last years selection Salaun being so bad as a rookie. I had Kon ranked 11th on my board, still a lottery talent and don't think it is black and white that he will be a bad player or won't help the team at all. However, if after 2-3 years Kon is the 8th or 9th best player from this draft class and we selected him 4th that is probably a bad outcome to me personally. If he is a top 10 player from the class I won't consider him a bad player, most likely he will be seen as a good player overall if that is the outcome- but I will still likely be disappointed. So yeah, I don't expect him to look like a terrible player tonight, over the next few weeks or his first rookie season as some bust who doesn't deserve to be in the league.

IMO the chances that he is a top 3 player from this draft class are very very low, he lacks the elite outcomes to me with his limitations and that is why I would not have selected him at 4th. It seems like a good portion of people who are Kon-defenders are either fine with that being the case or upset that people have this view. I expect to him to be better as a rookie than Salaun, but to me that isn't some line in the sand that if passed means that it was a good selection.

He can turn into a borderline starter and still be a bad pick, that is where I feel like the disconnect lies.

[JMAC3]

Last eight #4 picks.

Kon Knueppel
Steph Castle
Amen Thompson
Keegan Murray
Scottie Barnes
Patrick Williams
Deandre Hunter
Jaren Jackson Jr

I think Kon could be the Keegan Murray or Deandre Hunter type who is a good player overall but for #4 pick be somewhat of a disappointment. I would be very surprised if he was seen as the upside of a JJJ, Barnes, Amen or Castle type of prospect after this year.

[Chapelchilla]

Kon is shifty with the ball and good with varying his pace (like Luka, though not THAT good, yet anyway) so he is not STIFF like Korver/Harris. Both of them are still good players though and who I see as Kon's mid-low (not lowest) end outcome. Dude is Crafty, a good shooter, smart and strong already. I am also going to give all our rooks some time in the NBA to develop before I write them off.....

[LofJ]

Sion said he wants to model his game off Jrue. Talk about a player that is prepared and ready to go. We should have been drafting guys like him a long time ago.

Read on Twitter

[Goodecharlotte]

I'll be happy if Kon can be that reliable shooter that when he's open he knocks it down. Hopefully he'll be a killer

[JustBuzzin]

Just seen a report the Hornets are hoping to speak to Kuminga and his associates at summer league.

I would be down for Bridges for Kuminga if possible.

[Liver_Pooty]

Just seen a report the Hornets are hoping to speak to Kuminga and his associates at summer league.

I would be down for Bridges for Kuminga if possible.

Maybe if we swapped two guards for him lol.

[JustBuzzin]

Just seen a report the Hornets are hoping to speak to Kuminga and his associates at summer league.

I would be down for Bridges for Kuminga if possible.

Maybe if we swapped two guards for him lol.

Warriors would probably want a win now piece.

If this was a time to trade Bridges this would be a perfect opportunity.

Kuminga at least brings more value as a trade piece down the line. Bridges will never have value because of his off court past.

[Heelsfan119]

Just seen a report the Hornets are hoping to speak to Kuminga and his associates at summer league.

I would be down for Bridges for Kuminga if possible.

I could get behind this.

[vorbis]

if Bridges is moved as part of some kind of Kuminga move this becomes an A+ offseason for me personally

[Liver_Pooty]

if Bridges is moved as part of some kind of Kuminga move this becomes an A+ offseason for me personally

I’d like the move, but are you alright starting the season with Salaun as the starting 4 assuming Grant needs more time for his leg to heal?

[vorbis]

if Bridges is moved as part of some kind of Kuminga move this becomes an A+ offseason for me personally

I’d like the move, but are you alright starting the season with Salaun as the starting 4 assuming Grant needs more time for his leg to heal?

I'm alright with the repercussions of making the move, I'll put it that way. not because I want Salaün to start, but more to move on from Bridges