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Re: What is FMV for Austin Reaves 

Post#41 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Fri Jul 11, 2025 8:13 pm

R-DAWG wrote:This will never happen - but the best long term move for the Lakers would be cashing out both Lebron and Reaves and re-setting the table around Luka, a lotto pick and cap space.

The Lakers would have 87.1MM committed for 5 players - Luka at a 30% max, Vanderbilt, Ayton assuming he picks up his option, LaRavia and Kenecht - along with Bronny’s partial guarantee.

So that’s about 86.5MM to use on 5-6 players - assuming you get to 14 using a minimum, the room exception and a 2nd round pick.

That wasting a season of prime Luka when both players are already expiring. Luka can contend this season.
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Post#42 » by mademan » Fri Jul 11, 2025 9:03 pm

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R-DAWG wrote:This will never happen - but the best long term move for the Lakers would be cashing out both Lebron and Reaves and re-setting the table around Luka, a lotto pick and cap space.

The Lakers would have 87.1MM committed for 5 players - Luka at a 30% max, Vanderbilt, Ayton assuming he picks up his option, LaRavia and Kenecht - along with Bronny’s partial guarantee.

So that’s about 86.5MM to use on 5-6 players - assuming you get to 14 using a minimum, the room exception and a 2nd round pick.

That wasting a season of prime Luka when both players are already expiring. Luka can contend this season.


Theyre already deciding not to go all out this year, might as well decide truly build for Luka's best years over the next 5. And while they can theoretically contend...that's what 6 or 7 teams in the West think. I dunno, i wouldnt do it, but i see the logic. Ayton isnt the difference between a 1st round gentleman sweep and a finals berth. All of the Thunder/Nuggets/Houston/Minnesota/LAC/Dallas look to be better this year too.

That said, i would rather watch Luka in the playoffs try and will a team to the finals so i dont co-sign that plan
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Re: What is FMV for Austin Reaves 

Post#43 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Fri Jul 11, 2025 9:22 pm

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kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:This will never happen - but the best long term move for the Lakers would be cashing out both Lebron and Reaves and re-setting the table around Luka, a lotto pick and cap space.

The Lakers would have 87.1MM committed for 5 players - Luka at a 30% max, Vanderbilt, Ayton assuming he picks up his option, LaRavia and Kenecht - along with Bronny’s partial guarantee.

So that’s about 86.5MM to use on 5-6 players - assuming you get to 14 using a minimum, the room exception and a 2nd round pick.

That wasting a season of prime Luka when both players are already expiring. Luka can contend this season.


Theyre already deciding not to go all out this year, might as well decide truly build for Luka's best years over the next 5. And while they can theoretically contend...that's what 6 or 7 teams in the West think. I dunno, i wouldnt do it, but i see the logic. Ayton isnt the difference between a 1st round gentleman sweep and a finals berth. All of the Thunder/Nuggets/Houston/Minnesota/LAC/Dallas look to be better this year too.

That said, i would rather watch Luka in the playoffs try and will a team to the finals so i dont co-sign that plan


Based on what they decided they not going all out this year? Did i miss a press conference? Did trade deadline already pass? lol teams haven’t even spent all their salary space yet. What the all in moves they passed on?

You can’t build Luka best years in the draft. You gotta wait 2 or 3 seasons for a drafted player to be ready to contribute.
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Post#44 » by mademan » Fri Jul 11, 2025 9:24 pm

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
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kobe_vs_jordan wrote:That wasting a season of prime Luka when both players are already expiring. Luka can contend this season.


Theyre already deciding not to go all out this year, might as well decide truly build for Luka's best years over the next 5. And while they can theoretically contend...that's what 6 or 7 teams in the West think. I dunno, i wouldnt do it, but i see the logic. Ayton isnt the difference between a 1st round gentleman sweep and a finals berth. All of the Thunder/Nuggets/Houston/Minnesota/LAC/Dallas look to be better this year too.

That said, i would rather watch Luka in the playoffs try and will a team to the finals so i dont co-sign that plan


Based on what they decided they not going all out this year? Did i miss a press conference? Did trade deadline already pass? lol teams haven’t even spent all their salary space yet. What the all in moves they passed on?

You can’t build Luka best years in the draft. You gotta wait 2 or 3 seasons for a drafted player to be ready to contribute.


Based on the decision to prioritize future cap space and flexibility. Im not sure its the wrong call at all, but it's clear that's the plan
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Post#45 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Fri Jul 11, 2025 9:39 pm

mademan wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
mademan wrote:
Theyre already deciding not to go all out this year, might as well decide truly build for Luka's best years over the next 5. And while they can theoretically contend...that's what 6 or 7 teams in the West think. I dunno, i wouldnt do it, but i see the logic. Ayton isnt the difference between a 1st round gentleman sweep and a finals berth. All of the Thunder/Nuggets/Houston/Minnesota/LAC/Dallas look to be better this year too.

That said, i would rather watch Luka in the playoffs try and will a team to the finals so i dont co-sign that plan


Based on what they decided they not going all out this year? Did i miss a press conference? Did trade deadline already pass? lol teams haven’t even spent all their salary space yet. What the all in moves they passed on?

You can’t build Luka best years in the draft. You gotta wait 2 or 3 seasons for a drafted player to be ready to contribute.


Based on the decision to prioritize future cap space and flexibility. Im not sure its the wrong call at all, but it's clear that's the plan

Seems like a negotiation tactic that lakers have used every year in the Pelinka era. We don’t even have cap space to pay an impact free agent multiple years lol
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Post#46 » by zimpy27 » Fri Jul 11, 2025 9:42 pm

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
mademan wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
Based on what they decided they not going all out this year? Did i miss a press conference? Did trade deadline already pass? lol teams haven’t even spent all their salary space yet. What the all in moves they passed on?

You can’t build Luka best years in the draft. You gotta wait 2 or 3 seasons for a drafted player to be ready to contribute.


Based on the decision to prioritize future cap space and flexibility. Im not sure its the wrong call at all, but it's clear that's the plan

Seems like a negotiation tactic that lakers have used every year in the Pelinka era. We don’t even have cap space to pay an impact free agent multiple years lol


Only Pelinka could sabotage the the top duo in the league with a terrible ongoing strategy and think that it's been successful.
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Post#47 » by mademan » Fri Jul 11, 2025 10:01 pm

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
mademan wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
Based on what they decided they not going all out this year? Did i miss a press conference? Did trade deadline already pass? lol teams haven’t even spent all their salary space yet. What the all in moves they passed on?

You can’t build Luka best years in the draft. You gotta wait 2 or 3 seasons for a drafted player to be ready to contribute.


Based on the decision to prioritize future cap space and flexibility. Im not sure its the wrong call at all, but it's clear that's the plan

Seems like a negotiation tactic that lakers have used every year in the Pelinka era. We don’t even have cap space to pay an impact free agent multiple years lol


We'll see, and im willing to eat crow, but what from ive seen and what the most in-the-know podcasters and media heads are saying, Lakers are going for maximum flexibility in the post Lebron era over prioritizing this season. Im not saying it's wrong, but that what it looks like. If they end up trading these expiring contracts and picks for rotation players later in the season, ill admit i was wrong, but the Lakers cant truly believe theyre realistically contending or at the very most are anything more than outside shot kind of team as currently constructed. They have like 4 good players and no 2 way guys...thats not winning in the West
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Post#48 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Fri Jul 11, 2025 10:27 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
mademan wrote:
Based on the decision to prioritize future cap space and flexibility. Im not sure its the wrong call at all, but it's clear that's the plan

Seems like a negotiation tactic that lakers have used every year in the Pelinka era. We don’t even have cap space to pay an impact free agent multiple years lol


Only Pelinka could sabotage the the top duo in the league with a terrible ongoing strategy and think that it's been successful.

Think LeBron did that imo. Approved Westbrook trade and made sure his guy THT got paid instead of Caruso.
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Post#49 » by zimpy27 » Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:33 am

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:Seems like a negotiation tactic that lakers have used every year in the Pelinka era. We don’t even have cap space to pay an impact free agent multiple years lol


Only Pelinka could sabotage the the top duo in the league with a terrible ongoing strategy and think that it's been successful.

Think LeBron did that imo. Approved Westbrook trade and made sure his guy THT got paid instead of Caruso.


Actually Caruso was LeBrons guy.
Rob loved THT because it was his first pick, THT was klutch from a young age when LeBron saw him but LeBron was much more in to Caruso as a teammate.
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Post#50 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Sat Jul 12, 2025 2:26 am

zimpy27 wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Only Pelinka could sabotage the the top duo in the league with a terrible ongoing strategy and think that it's been successful.

Think LeBron did that imo. Approved Westbrook trade and made sure his guy THT got paid instead of Caruso.


Actually Caruso was LeBrons guy.
Rob loved THT because it was his first pick, THT was klutch from a young age when LeBron saw him but LeBron was much more in to Caruso as a teammate.

LeBron loves Caruso the player. No doubt about that. But he has historically been loyal to klutch clients.

Rumored why wiggins got traded from cava because he was supposed to sign with klutch but changed his mind.

Lakers signed / drafted one klutch client pre LeBron. KCP

Post LeBron, we had.
JR smith
AD
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Vandy
Scottie Pippen jr.
THT
Thierro
Montreal harrell
Troy brown jr
Christian Koloko
Kendrick nunn
Ben mclemore
Lonnie walker.
Dion waiters.

I might be missing some pre LeBron but you get the idea.
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Post#51 » by SlimShady83 » Sat Jul 12, 2025 2:44 am

Vae Victus wrote:Austin Reaves is a fairly contentious player on RealGM. Laker fans overvalue him,


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Post#52 » by redslastlaugh » Sat Jul 12, 2025 2:52 am

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:LeBron loves Caruso the player. No doubt about that. But he has historically been loyal to klutch clients.

Rumored why wiggins got traded from cava because he was supposed to sign with klutch but changed his mind.

Lakers signed / drafted one klutch client pre LeBron. KCP

Post LeBron, we had.
JR smith
AD
Prince
Bazley
Vandy
Scottie Pippen jr.
THT
Thierro
Montreal harrell
Troy brown jr
Christian Koloko
Kendrick nunn
Ben mclemore
Lonnie walker.
Dion waiters.

I might be missing some pre LeBron but you get the idea.


Cam Reddish too
Bronny James obviously
Jaxson Hayes

Lakers as a Klutch subsidiary seems to be coming to an end though
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Post#53 » by zimpy27 » Sat Jul 12, 2025 3:01 am

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:Think LeBron did that imo. Approved Westbrook trade and made sure his guy THT got paid instead of Caruso.


Actually Caruso was LeBrons guy.
Rob loved THT because it was his first pick, THT was klutch from a young age when LeBron saw him but LeBron was much more in to Caruso as a teammate.

LeBron loves Caruso the player. No doubt about that. But he has historically been loyal to klutch clients.

Rumored why wiggins got traded from cava because he was supposed to sign with klutch but changed his mind.

Lakers signed / drafted one klutch client pre LeBron. KCP

Post LeBron, we had.
JR smith
AD
Prince
Bazley
Vandy
Scottie Pippen jr.
THT
Thierro
Montreal harrell
Troy brown jr
Christian Koloko
Kendrick nunn
Ben mclemore
Lonnie walker.
Dion waiters.

I might be missing some pre LeBron but you get the idea.


Rob was loyal to Rich Paul and Klutch players but I don't think LeBron ever has been caring about playing with Klutch players. LeBron is about the players on court that he wants there because they play well with him and win.

Rob is doing same thing with Bill Duffy now. It's his schtick, not LeBrons
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Post#54 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Sat Jul 12, 2025 3:18 am

zimpy27 wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Actually Caruso was LeBrons guy.
Rob loved THT because it was his first pick, THT was klutch from a young age when LeBron saw him but LeBron was much more in to Caruso as a teammate.

LeBron loves Caruso the player. No doubt about that. But he has historically been loyal to klutch clients.

Rumored why wiggins got traded from cava because he was supposed to sign with klutch but changed his mind.

Lakers signed / drafted one klutch client pre LeBron. KCP

Post LeBron, we had.
JR smith
AD
Prince
Bazley
Vandy
Scottie Pippen jr.
THT
Thierro
Montreal harrell
Troy brown jr
Christian Koloko
Kendrick nunn
Ben mclemore
Lonnie walker.
Dion waiters.

I might be missing some pre LeBron but you get the idea.


Rob was loyal to Rich Paul and Klutch players but I don't think LeBron ever has been caring about playing with Klutch players. LeBron is about the players on court that he wants there because they play well with him and win.

Rob is doing same thing with Bill Duffy now. It's his schtick, not LeBrons

Lebron has done this on multiple teams? Cavs, Heat, Cavs again lol Norris Cole rumored to be Lebron pick, Dan Le Batard said Pat Riley traded him away because he was signed to Klutch.

GMs are loyal to agents because they want the star to be happy. Being loyal to an agent just because is something I never heard of
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Post#55 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Sat Jul 12, 2025 3:19 am

redslastlaugh wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:LeBron loves Caruso the player. No doubt about that. But he has historically been loyal to klutch clients.

Rumored why wiggins got traded from cava because he was supposed to sign with klutch but changed his mind.

Lakers signed / drafted one klutch client pre LeBron. KCP

Post LeBron, we had.
JR smith
AD
Prince
Bazley
Vandy
Scottie Pippen jr.
THT
Thierro
Montreal harrell
Troy brown jr
Christian Koloko
Kendrick nunn
Ben mclemore
Lonnie walker.
Dion waiters.

I might be missing some pre LeBron but you get the idea.


Cam Reddish too
Bronny James obviously
Jaxson Hayes

Lakers as a Klutch subsidiary seems to be coming to an end though

It was a nice run and benefit honestly. Recruiting made easy.

Extra fun, go see how many Klutch clients been in trade rumors with the lakers since Lebron came.
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Post#56 » by zimpy27 » Sat Jul 12, 2025 3:27 am

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:LeBron loves Caruso the player. No doubt about that. But he has historically been loyal to klutch clients.

Rumored why wiggins got traded from cava because he was supposed to sign with klutch but changed his mind.

Lakers signed / drafted one klutch client pre LeBron. KCP

Post LeBron, we had.
JR smith
AD
Prince
Bazley
Vandy
Scottie Pippen jr.
THT
Thierro
Montreal harrell
Troy brown jr
Christian Koloko
Kendrick nunn
Ben mclemore
Lonnie walker.
Dion waiters.

I might be missing some pre LeBron but you get the idea.


Rob was loyal to Rich Paul and Klutch players but I don't think LeBron ever has been caring about playing with Klutch players. LeBron is about the players on court that he wants there because they play well with him and win.

Rob is doing same thing with Bill Duffy now. It's his schtick, not LeBrons

Lebron has done this on multiple teams? Cavs, Heat, Cavs again lol Norris Cole rumored to be Lebron pick, Dan Le Batard said Pat Riley traded him away because he was signed to Klutch.

GMs are loyal to agents because they want the star to be happy. Being loyal to an agent just because is something I never heard of



So you have a couple guys on previous teams, they are more coincidental.
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Post#57 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Sat Jul 12, 2025 3:40 am

zimpy27 wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Rob was loyal to Rich Paul and Klutch players but I don't think LeBron ever has been caring about playing with Klutch players. LeBron is about the players on court that he wants there because they play well with him and win.

Rob is doing same thing with Bill Duffy now. It's his schtick, not LeBrons

Lebron has done this on multiple teams? Cavs, Heat, Cavs again lol Norris Cole rumored to be Lebron pick, Dan Le Batard said Pat Riley traded him away because he was signed to Klutch.

GMs are loyal to agents because they want the star to be happy. Being loyal to an agent just because is something I never heard of



So you have a couple guys on previous teams, they are more coincidental.

Where there I smoke there is fire. You think Rob would be doing Rich Paul favors in a world that Lebron wasn't his client? Would Rob be doing Duffy favors if Luka wasn't his client?

Stars running teams at least since I was born. Lakers business model was founded on bending over backwards to stars since the 70s.
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Post#58 » by zimpy27 » Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:07 am

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:Lebron has done this on multiple teams? Cavs, Heat, Cavs again lol Norris Cole rumored to be Lebron pick, Dan Le Batard said Pat Riley traded him away because he was signed to Klutch.

GMs are loyal to agents because they want the star to be happy. Being loyal to an agent just because is something I never heard of



So you have a couple guys on previous teams, they are more coincidental.

Where there I smoke there is fire. You think Rob would be doing Rich Paul favors in a world that Lebron wasn't his client? Would Rob be doing Duffy favors if Luka wasn't his client?

Stars running teams at least since I was born. Lakers business model was founded on bending over backwards to stars since the 70s.


Yes he would and will do same with Duffy.

I thought it was pretty well known that LeBron wanted to keep Caruso and wanted Ty Lue. I'm surprised you didn't know this tbh. Do you follow any of the Lakers podcasts?
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Post#59 » by dcstanley » Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:13 am

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:Seems like a negotiation tactic that lakers have used every year in the Pelinka era. We don’t even have cap space to pay an impact free agent multiple years lol


Only Pelinka could sabotage the the top duo in the league with a terrible ongoing strategy and think that it's been successful.

Think LeBron did that imo. Approved Westbrook trade and made sure his guy THT got paid instead of Caruso.

Lebron wanted Lue hired, Caruso re-signed, Dudley re-signed, trade for Kyrie, the JHS pick traded for win now players. AD wanted a center for like four seasons.

Rob had no problem saying no to Klutch. They're just a convenient scapegoat for his inability to construct a contending roster.
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Post#60 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Sat Jul 12, 2025 6:02 am

dcstanley wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Only Pelinka could sabotage the the top duo in the league with a terrible ongoing strategy and think that it's been successful.

Think LeBron did that imo. Approved Westbrook trade and made sure his guy THT got paid instead of Caruso.

Lebron wanted Lue hired, Caruso re-signed, Dudley re-signed, trade for Kyrie, the JHS pick traded for win now players. AD wanted a center for like four seasons.

Rob had no problem saying no to Klutch. They're just a convenient scapegoat for his inability to construct a contending roster.

Lue got hired by the Lakers and didn't like his contract length in the offer. He got a better offer with the clippers.

Caruso or THT was a choice . The klutch guy that never showed much got the overpaid . Surprise surprise.

Dudley retired. Not like he went to another team

Nets said no to Kyrie going to the Lakers. Was reported the Nets owner was against sending him to the Lakers.

AD is not Lebron, we are not counting his demands in this context

Lakers inability to construct a roster is heavily tied to the Westbrook trade and letting Caruso go for nothing.

Lakers traded KCP, Kuzma and a first for Westbrook, traded a first to dump him for essentially Vandy in the long term.

And it's the Lakers way to cater to stars. They been catering to stars for 40 years and all of a sudden they go against their philosophy when they get LeBron? Make it make sense.

LeBron saved a franchise from spiraling away. Of course they catered to his wants.

At some point , we have to call a spade a spade. Lebron helped and hurt the lakers can both be true, Did similar things with his time with the Cavs

Next y'all going to be telling me it was Rob and not LeBron as the reason the Lakers were able to get AD

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