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Post#21 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Jul 11, 2025 10:05 pm

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RHODEY wrote:Detroit lost Hardaway, Beasley (degenerate gambler) and Schroder -who killed us BTW. So why is exactly are y'all so scared of Detroit?


That thins them out but, they get Ivey and Stewart back right? It's kinda early for this discussion because there are a lot of moving pieces on the chess board. Teams are not done.

Ivey and Stewart dont scare me. And who is their 2nd best player after Cade? If they don't make some kind move, Not only are we more talented them them, we are deeper.


Where did I say I was scared of any team? We're finals bound brother. No one can beat us!
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Post#24 » by RHODEY » Fri Jul 11, 2025 11:46 pm

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That thins them out but, they get Ivey and Stewart back right? It's kinda early for this discussion because there are a lot of moving pieces on the chess board. Teams are not done.

Ivey and Stewart dont scare me. And who is their 2nd best player after Cade? If they don't make some kind move, Not only are we more talented them them, we are deeper.


Where did I say I was scared of any team? We're finals bound brother. No one can beat us!
Where did I say YOU said you were scared brotha? :lol:
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Re: New here - Checking in about ECF challengers to the Knicks? 

Post#25 » by Luv those Knicks » Sat Jul 12, 2025 2:54 am

RHODEY wrote:Detroit lost Hardaway, Beasley (degenerate gambler) and Schroder -who killed us BTW. So why is exactly are y'all so scared of Detroit?


You make a good point.

That said, Vegas has them ahead of Boston and Milwaukee, which is interesting. Vegas believes in Detroit a little.

And based on what I saw from their summer league team. They're athletic and they play smart. I think their summer league team would win more games than the Nets right now. I think they could be a sleeper. That said, I hope you're right. They were a pain in the but last year in the playoffs.
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Post#26 » by Luv those Knicks » Sat Jul 12, 2025 3:01 am

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Where did I say I was scared of any team? We're finals bound brother. No one can beat us!


Nova said the word "scared of Detroit and Orlando" - which is a sports term. "That player is scary", doesn't mean literally scared of them, just "wow they're good", or in this case "that team could give us trouble, they scare me a little"

As someone else said, it's early. Trades and signings can still happen. We don't know how each team is going to come together in the new season. Time will tell.
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Post#27 » by RHODEY » Sat Jul 12, 2025 3:58 am

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RHODEY wrote:Detroit lost Hardaway, Beasley (degenerate gambler) and Schroder -who killed us BTW. So why is exactly are y'all so scared of Detroit?


You make a good point.

That said, Vegas has them ahead of Boston and Milwaukee, which is interesting. Vegas believes in Detroit a little.

And based on what I saw from their summer league team. They're athletic and they play smart. I think their summer league team would win more games than the Nets right now. I think they could be a sleeper. That said, I hope you're right. They were a pain in the but last year in the playoffs.
If we had any kind of depth last season I bet we'd have swept them...we do now.
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Post#28 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Jul 12, 2025 10:51 am

Luv those Knicks wrote:
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Where did I say I was scared of any team? We're finals bound brother. No one can beat us!


Nova said the word "scared of Detroit and Orlando" - which is a sports term. "That player is scary", doesn't mean literally scared of them, just "wow they're good", or in this case "that team could give us trouble, they scare me a little"

As someone else said, it's early. Trades and signings can still happen. We don't know how each team is going to come together in the new season. Time will tell.


Ummm.... Yeah. I'm the one who said teams are not done. :lol: I know what the term scary means.
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Post#29 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Jul 12, 2025 10:54 am

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RHODEY wrote:Detroit lost Hardaway, Beasley (degenerate gambler) and Schroder -who killed us BTW. So why is exactly are y'all so scared of Detroit?


You make a good point.

That said, Vegas has them ahead of Boston and Milwaukee, which is interesting. Vegas believes in Detroit a little.

And based on what I saw from their summer league team. They're athletic and they play smart. I think their summer league team would win more games than the Nets right now. I think they could be a sleeper. That said, I hope you're right. They were a pain in the but last year in the playoffs.
If we had any kind of depth last season I bet we'd have swept them...we do now.


We have 12 players on the team. We have less depth now.
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Post#30 » by Novaknicks » Sat Jul 12, 2025 6:38 pm

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Thanks for your well thought out reply. I think Cle is the top seed as well. I do feel we can handle them in the playoffs. I think Orlando and Detroit are the teams in scared of. But Detroit did nothing in the offseason.
I am not saying Philly isn't good, but those guys always get hurt.

I am also not very happy with our own off-season. I realize we had no really room to maneuver, and we did add scoring to the bench. But the disaster still feels like it lacks fit or coherence.

I guess we'll see - what can Brown do for us

Detroit lost Hardaway, Beasley (degenerate gambler) and Schroder -who killed us BTW. So why is exactly are y'all so scared of Detroit?


That thins them out but, they get Ivey and Stewart back right? It's kinda early for this discussion because there are a lot of moving pieces on the chess board. Teams are not done.


They added Duncan-Robinson. When he takes the floor, that's them twin towers right there :P
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Post#31 » by sol537 » Sat Jul 12, 2025 6:42 pm

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Novaknicks wrote:Hello all,

I just joined and I've been a knicks fan since the 90s. Was very excited to finally see us go deep into the playoffs. The coaching thing was a bit of a head scratcher but I am glad Thibs is gone. Not sure about Brown though.

Now that Boston and are both toast for next season, who Stands in the way of the Knicks going to the finals?
Clev is good but beatable.

I think ATL and ORL have both upgraded a lot.

ATL has KP, Alexander=Walker and Kennard. Are they good enough to beat us? I have doubts about KP and Trae fit. KP didnt like playing with Luca. Not sure what to expect?
Orlando added Bane. I think they may even get to 47-50 wins

Thoughts??


I think this is a legit post, and welcome Nova. Nice name. Nova also means new and you're a new poster. Works on 2 fronts.

If you believe Vegas, Cleveland is ahead of NY in betting odds, but it's close. +750 to +800.

Vegas should be taken with a grain of salt because they reflect bets placed more than expert analysis.

https://sportsbook.fanduel.com/navigation/nba?tab=nba-finals

Orlando is a distant 3rd at +1600

The Hawks, a distant 4th +2900 and Phily 5th at +3300

Philly still has talent. They drafted a nice rookie last year who got hurt and missed the 2nd half. They have Embiid & Paul George, both banged up but talented, so Philly being the 5th team according to betting odds, might sound strange, but it's not as off as it sounds.

Detroit 6, Boston 7, Milwaukee 8, Indy 9, Miami 10, Craptors 11.

With the Bulls, Nets, Hornets & Wizards each at roughly 100 to 1, and I don't like those odds.

Milwaukee, if things work out with Myles Turner could be a pesky playoff opponant, but I think they're still a long shot.

Atlanta needs to mesh first. I don't think they're there yet and KP has serious playing time issues.

Orlando is fun, but lets see how they come together.

I think Vegas has it right. The Cavs kicked our buts last year. It wasn't even close when we played them, and I think they were injured when Indy beat them. They'd be my #1 choice for biggest opponent, right now. They lost Ty Jerome, but he was 10th on their roster in minutes and they might still be a 60 win team with a deep roster without him.

All of that said - any season is a crap shoot. You never know which team will have injury problems come playoffs and you never know which team will make a trade to improve their chances. Thomas Bryant was a cheap addition by Indi 2 months into the season last year, but he definitely helped them. Making predictions now is an exercise in futility, because it almost never ends up like people predict.

But to answer your question, Cleveland is probably the biggest threat. I wouldn't sleep on Detroit if they can keep improving. Orlando is a wait and see how they play together but they have a shot. . . . Milwaukee & Philly are what I'd call sleepers but I wouldn't be 100% shocked to see either of them step up and be a threat in the playoffs. I don't believe in Atlanta as much as some people do. The talent is there on paper, but wait and see what they can do.

Just my 2 cents.

If there was already a power rankings thread or something similar, then this thread would probably get closed, but I don't see one, so I don't see a reason not to talk about who looks like the biggest threat to us. Though, the fact is, this early, we're all just guessing.


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Post#32 » by Novaknicks » Sat Jul 12, 2025 7:06 pm

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You make a good point.

That said, Vegas has them ahead of Boston and Milwaukee, which is interesting. Vegas believes in Detroit a little.

And based on what I saw from their summer league team. They're athletic and they play smart. I think their summer league team would win more games than the Nets right now. I think they could be a sleeper. That said, I hope you're right. They were a pain in the but last year in the playoffs.
If we had any kind of depth last season I bet we'd have swept them...we do now.


We have 12 players on the team. We have less depth now.


Brunson
Bridges
OG
KAT
Mitch
Hart
Yabu
Deuce
Pac Daddi
Hukporti
Clarkson
Kolek
Nnaji - Is he on contract?
<<Shamet>>

Depending on who the starting 5 is, we may be able to put in a coherent second unit-

Brunson-Bridges-Hart-OG-KAT
Clarkson-Deuce-Pac Daddi-Yabu-Mitch

Only 12 deep like you said, but if we get Shamet (I hope we do) we may have enough scoring for the second unit to hold it's own. Not clear on what the situation is with Nnaji

But I'd prefer to see OG play the 3 and Hart to the bench, then the real question becomes who plays the 4/5 spots?
Brunson-Mikal-OG with KAT-Mitch, Yabu-KAT, KAT-Huk, Nnaji-KAT? None of those look great but to keep enough defense on the floor KAT-Mitch makes more sense, though it didn't look so good in the playoffs.

That's the main reason, I am not very happy with our offseason, we failed to get a starting caliber defensive 4. I love Josh Hart but he is not a starter and OG is better off as a 3, IMHO. If Nanji or Huk an truly develop into that guy then I'll be happy. I love Mitch as well, but I don't think a championship contending should rely on him.
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Post#33 » by RHODEY » Sat Jul 12, 2025 8:22 pm

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You make a good point.

That said, Vegas has them ahead of Boston and Milwaukee, which is interesting. Vegas believes in Detroit a little.

And based on what I saw from their summer league team. They're athletic and they play smart. I think their summer league team would win more games than the Nets right now. I think they could be a sleeper. That said, I hope you're right. They were a pain in the but last year in the playoffs.
If we had any kind of depth last season I bet we'd have swept them...we do now.


We have 12 players on the team. We have less depth now.

Quality is better.
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Post#34 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:47 am

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Everyone is afraid they’ll get banned.

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Post#35 » by Novaknicks » Sun Jul 13, 2025 10:06 pm

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Jalen Bluntson wrote:What happened to this place?!?! YOU CAN ALL STFU AND GTFO NOW!!

Everyone is afraid they’ll get banned.

We’re not allowed to have fun anymore.

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Welcome to the forum. Now …

STFU and GTFO!

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Thanks! I was feeling all warm and fuzzy. Then I turned into the SL game. Could be worse i suppose.
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Post#36 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sun Jul 13, 2025 11:03 pm

Novaknicks wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
RHODEY wrote:If we had any kind of depth last season I bet we'd have swept them...we do now.


We have 12 players on the team. We have less depth now.


Brunson
Bridges
OG
KAT
Mitch
Hart
Yabu
Deuce
Pac Daddi
Hukporti
Clarkson
Kolek
Nnaji - Is he on contract?
<<Shamet>>

Depending on who the starting 5 is, we may be able to put in a coherent second unit-

Brunson-Bridges-Hart-OG-KAT
Clarkson-Deuce-Pac Daddi-Yabu-Mitch

Only 12 deep like you said, but if we get Shamet (I hope we do) we may have enough scoring for the second unit to hold it's own. Not clear on what the situation is with Nnaji

But I'd prefer to see OG play the 3 and Hart to the bench, then the real question becomes who plays the 4/5 spots?
Brunson-Mikal-OG with KAT-Mitch, Yabu-KAT, KAT-Huk, Nnaji-KAT? None of those look great but to keep enough defense on the floor KAT-Mitch makes more sense, though it didn't look so good in the playoffs.

That's the main reason, I am not very happy with our offseason, we failed to get a starting caliber defensive 4. I love Josh Hart but he is not a starter and OG is better off as a 3, IMHO. If Nanji or Huk an truly develop into that guy then I'll be happy. I love Mitch as well, but I don't think a championship contending should rely on him.


Off season isn't over. Roster isn't set. Starting 5 hasn't been announced. Depth hasn't been established.

That said, we have options. I'm curious to know what Brown is actually gonna do. He mentioned pace and space. Mitch doesn't fit that mold at all. So...KAT at the 5? Need to be true 5 out then. Hart doesn't fit that mold. He's great at pace but, he doesn't shoot the ball. Is Yabusele starter level 4/5? He can space the floor shooting 38% from three. He's a bull getting the ball moving to the rim. I just don't know if he is starter level but, I haven't heard much about his defense other than he's kinda weak there. Not a good fit if he isn't a solid defender at least.

Deuce starting is my preference right now. Makes us deeper 1-5 if we bring in a PG vet mini for the bench.

Brunson/vet PG/Kolek
Deuce/Clarkson/Pac
Mikal/Hart
OG/Yabusele/Diawara(?)
KAT/Mitch/Huk

Having two injury risks in Mitch and Huk? This makes the most sense to me. Pace and space. Best defense to start games. True 5 out.

Smart/Simmons both make sense to me. The defense lineup of either one with Deuce/Mikal/OG/Mitch should be able to get needed stops and still get points.

Idk. We have options and we still haven't finished filling out the roster.
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Post#37 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Jul 14, 2025 9:08 am

Novaknicks wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:What happened to this place?!?! YOU CAN ALL STFU AND GTFO NOW!!

Everyone is afraid they’ll get banned.

We’re not allowed to have fun anymore.

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To the OP,

Welcome to the forum. Now …

STFU and GTFO!

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Thanks! I was feeling all warm and fuzzy. Then I turned into the SL game. Could be worse i suppose.

You should feel love all over. :lol: You’ve just been subjected to a well-established initiation process here that has gone on for decades.

Usually new members to the forum introduce themselves to the group by telling us a little bit of their connection to the Knicks.
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Post#38 » by BKlutch » Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:08 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:What happened to this place?!?! YOU CAN ALL STFU AND GTFO NOW!!

Everyone is afraid they’ll get banned.

We’re not allowed to have fun anymore.

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Welcome to the forum. Now …
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Don't feel bad, you could always look at your collection of Melania pics and jerk off.
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Post#39 » by ctorres » Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:59 pm

Bucks are gonna be better than most people think. They had a ton of very smart signings to compliment the Myles Turner acquisition.

They re-signed the guys that played well for them in the 1st round and still have young guys that will likely get an increased role next season.

Their roster is legitimately built around Giannis with shooting and defense.

Kuzma is the only one I'd make an effort to trade.
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Post#40 » by StlHawksFan » Mon Jul 21, 2025 8:42 pm

Luv those Knicks wrote:
Novaknicks wrote:Hello all,

I just joined and I've been a knicks fan since the 90s. Was very excited to finally see us go deep into the playoffs. The coaching thing was a bit of a head scratcher but I am glad Thibs is gone. Not sure about Brown though.

Now that Boston and are both toast for next season, who Stands in the way of the Knicks going to the finals?
Clev is good but beatable.

I think ATL and ORL have both upgraded a lot.

ATL has KP, Alexander=Walker and Kennard. Are they good enough to beat us? I have doubts about KP and Trae fit. KP didnt like playing with Luca. Not sure what to expect?
Orlando added Bane. I think they may even get to 47-50 wins

Thoughts??


I think this is a legit post, and welcome Nova. Nice name. Nova also means new and you're a new poster. Works on 2 fronts.

If you believe Vegas, Cleveland is ahead of NY in betting odds, but it's close. +750 to +800.

Vegas should be taken with a grain of salt because they reflect bets placed more than expert analysis.

https://sportsbook.fanduel.com/navigation/nba?tab=nba-finals

Orlando is a distant 3rd at +1600

The Hawks, a distant 4th +2900 and Phily 5th at +3300

Philly still has talent. They drafted a nice rookie last year who got hurt and missed the 2nd half. They have Embiid & Paul George, both banged up but talented, so Philly being the 5th team according to betting odds, might sound strange, but it's not as off as it sounds.

Detroit 6, Boston 7, Milwaukee 8, Indy 9, Miami 10, Craptors 11.

With the Bulls, Nets, Hornets & Wizards each at roughly 100 to 1, and I don't like those odds.

Milwaukee, if things work out with Myles Turner could be a pesky playoff opponant, but I think they're still a long shot.

Atlanta needs to mesh first. I don't think they're there yet and KP has serious playing time issues.

Orlando is fun, but lets see how they come together.

I think Vegas has it right. The Cavs kicked our buts last year. It wasn't even close when we played them, and I think they were injured when Indy beat them. They'd be my #1 choice for biggest opponent, right now. They lost Ty Jerome, but he was 10th on their roster in minutes and they might still be a 60 win team with a deep roster without him.

All of that said - any season is a crap shoot. You never know which team will have injury problems come playoffs and you never know which team will make a trade to improve their chances. Thomas Bryant was a cheap addition by Indi 2 months into the season last year, but he definitely helped them. Making predictions now is an exercise in futility, because it almost never ends up like people predict.

But to answer your question, Cleveland is probably the biggest threat. I wouldn't sleep on Detroit if they can keep improving. Orlando is a wait and see how they play together but they have a shot. . . . Milwaukee & Philly are what I'd call sleepers but I wouldn't be 100% shocked to see either of them step up and be a threat in the playoffs. I don't believe in Atlanta as much as some people do. The talent is there on paper, but wait and see what they can do.

Just my 2 cents.

If there was already a power rankings thread or something similar, then this thread would probably get closed, but I don't see one, so I don't see a reason not to talk about who looks like the biggest threat to us. Though, the fact is, this early, we're all just guessing.


I'd take the under on Boston finishing in the top 7. Brown has been on the decline for 2 years now. White's their best player and he's at best a 3rd option. Simons is a blackhole they are begging for offers on. And the rest of their lineup would be 12th men on most playoff teams: Garza and Niang.

My guess is:
1 Cavs
2 Knicks
3 Hawks
4 Pistons
5 Sixers (if healthy) / Magic
6 Heat
7 Bucks
8 Sixers (if not healthy)
9 Pacers
10 Raptors (if healthy) / Celtics
11 Raptors (if not healthy)
12 Bulls
13 Hornets
14 Wizards
15 Nets

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