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"You can't criticize Kon for having a bad game it's just one game"
but also
LIAM LOOKS LIKE A STEAL
WE'RE SET AT CENTER
does it go both ways or
but also
LIAM LOOKS LIKE A STEAL
WE'RE SET AT CENTER
does it go both ways or

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Kons defense has been bad. Not sure how people are saying hes been good on defense.
I absolutely don't think this game means hes going to be bad overall. His passing was good and he will hit 3pt shots. However, this game so far seems like a good example of why I was adamant that I didn't think he was going to be able to defend or create on ball at the next level. Hes a straight up stiff and hes going to have some of the worst movement skills of any player in the league at his position.
I absolutely don't think this game means hes going to be bad overall. His passing was good and he will hit 3pt shots. However, this game so far seems like a good example of why I was adamant that I didn't think he was going to be able to defend or create on ball at the next level. Hes a straight up stiff and hes going to have some of the worst movement skills of any player in the league at his position.
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JustBuzzin wrote:I have higher expectations for the #4 pick. You don't and that fine.Liver_Pooty wrote:JustBuzzin wrote:Y'all gotta stop this nonsense. He was the #4 pick. He has to play better point blank.
Both McNeeley and Kalk has looked flat out better. Just be honest.
Hopefully Kon bounces back next game. This was a below average performance for the #4 overall pick.
Did you have this same energy when every other rookie stunk it up their first SL game? Relax.
It’s a summer league game. Are you okay?
Balllin wrote:Zion Williamson is 6-5, with a 6-10 wingspan. I see him as a slightly better Kenneth Faried.
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JDR720 wrote:JustBuzzin wrote:JDR720 wrote:Kon's shot isn't going in, but we know he's a good shooter. He's playing fine otherwise, made some good defensive plays and is a good passer.
Y'all gotta stop this nonsense. He was the #4 pick. He has to play better point blank.
Both McNeeley and Kalk has looked flat out better. Just be honest.
Hopefully Kon bounces back next game. This was a below average performance for the #4 overall pick.
Guy, it's the first summer league game.
Flagg went 5-21 in his first game, is he a bust too?
Cmon man Flagg is a proven talent.
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Ball movement, ladies and gentlemen - ball movement.
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Liver_Pooty wrote:JustBuzzin wrote:I have higher expectations for the #4 pick. You don't and that fine.Liver_Pooty wrote:
Did you have this same energy when every other rookie stunk it up their first SL game? Relax.
It’s a summer league game. Are you okay?
Im awesome how about you?

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SWedd523 wrote:"You can't criticize Kon for having a bad game it's just one game"
but also
LIAM LOOKS LIKE A STEAL
WE'RE SET AT CENTER
does it go both ways or
I think Kons been abysmal today. We are definitely not set at center. Liam looks good.
Balllin wrote:Zion Williamson is 6-5, with a 6-10 wingspan. I see him as a slightly better Kenneth Faried.
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JustBuzzin wrote:EmpireFalls wrote:I’m not saying Kon’s a bust but IF he was a bust it would look exactly like it has so far today. He looks awful.
We would have crushed this draft had we took Bailey.
Melo
Miller
Ace
Bridges
Kalk
Man it would have been special!
You should just put that in your sig. Would save you having to post it several times a day

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Braggins wrote:Kons defense has been bad. Not sure how people are saying hes been good on defense.
I absolutely don't think this game means hes going to be bad overall. His passing was good and he will hit 3pt shots. However, this game so far seems like a good example of why I was adamant that I didn't think he was going to be able to defend or create on ball at the next level. Hes a straight up stiff and hes going to have some of the worst movement skills of any player in the league at his position.
He is just not a lottery level talent in any respect at all
Cam Spencer who went #53 last year is basically his player comp. We reached sooooooo hard.
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Diop wrote:JustBuzzin wrote:EmpireFalls wrote:I’m not saying Kon’s a bust but IF he was a bust it would look exactly like it has so far today. He looks awful.
We would have crushed this draft had we took Bailey.
Melo
Miller
Ace
Bridges
Kalk
Man it would have been special!
You should just put that in your sig. Would save you having to post it several times a day
**** **** annoying
Balllin wrote:Zion Williamson is 6-5, with a 6-10 wingspan. I see him as a slightly better Kenneth Faried.
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Two clear takeaways from this game. Liam looks not-summer-league-fluke solid, and Tiddy has improved. Everything else will remain fuzzy until it's not.
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EmpireFalls wrote:He is just not a lottery level talent in any respect at all
I don't know if Id go that far, but I really don't think he had any business being a top 5 pick.
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McNeeley is a baller. Don't let the appearance fool you he can get buckets!
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I didn't make a player ranking anything, but for most of the season I though McNeeley was a better prospect than Kon.
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JustBuzzin wrote:JDR720 wrote:JustBuzzin wrote:Y'all gotta stop this nonsense. He was the #4 pick. He has to play better point blank.
Both McNeeley and Kalk has looked flat out better. Just be honest.
Hopefully Kon bounces back next game. This was a below average performance for the #4 overall pick.
Guy, it's the first summer league game.
Flagg went 5-21 in his first game, is he a bust too?
Cmon man Flagg is a proven talent.
And Kon isn't?
This Kon stuff is going to get tiring pretty soon. If he's not ever good, that's one thing. But it's like some of you guys will purposely root for it so you can be "right."
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Yeah Kalk has to get stronger especially in his legs. He has a year to go
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The facts are folks would be saying Kon feasted on SL guys if he had a good game and he was a bust if he wasn’t lights out. Just give it time. The good news is it looks like our player development program is working. KJ and TS have improved.
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JDR720 wrote:JustBuzzin wrote:JDR720 wrote:Guy, it's the first summer league game.
Flagg went 5-21 in his first game, is he a bust too?
Cmon man Flagg is a proven talent.
And Kon isn't?
This Kon stuff is going to get tiring pretty soon. If he's not ever good, that's one thing. But it's like some of you guys will purposely root for it so you can be "right."
Happens every season. People will literally want Liam to be better than Kon soon if not already. If he is that’s fantastic. That wouldn’t be a bad thing at all. I don’t get it with some of these people.
Balllin wrote:Zion Williamson is 6-5, with a 6-10 wingspan. I see him as a slightly better Kenneth Faried.