Hansen Yang

[HadAnEffectHere]

I mean, Clingan is a 280 lb C who’s never handled big minutes. If anything, you’d expect 24 MPG next year, but idk if he’s ready to handle a 30 MPG role. Like, even in college, he would have his minutes low from getting gassed. If anything, when playjng a bigger C like that who isn’t necessarily lean and fit as some of these Cs, having two high end Cs is kinda needed. Especially when some teams play these smaller, 220-230 lb Cs, they’re just gonna try and run and gas a C like Clingan out.

Gotta draft two centers with premium picks because they both suck.

Well, that could be the case, but what if they prove capable of playing together in a jumbo lineup with Camara and Deni on the wing and Scoot at the point? Yang seems like he may have the skills to play out of the high post and if he can do it at the NBA level, why not try it every once in a while and see what the results are? The double big is making a comeback in the league.

The double big is coming back if one your bigs can shoot and dribble.

Clingan and Yang have no perimeter skills.

Comparing these guys to KAT or Chet is so **** funny.

[Chuck Everett]

Gotta draft two centers with premium picks because they both suck.

Well, that could be the case, but what if they prove capable of playing together in a jumbo lineup with Camara and Deni on the wing and Scoot at the point? Yang seems like he may have the skills to play out of the high post and if he can do it at the NBA level, why not try it every once in a while and see what the results are? The double big is making a comeback in the league.

The double big is coming back if one your bigs can shoot and dribble.

Clingan and Yang have no perimeter skills.

I mean we just saw Adams and Sengun be effective almost exclusively from 15-feet and in last year. Why don't we give them a chance to develop? That's all I'm saying.

[EmpireFalls]

Gotta draft two centers with premium picks because they both suck.

Well, that could be the case, but what if they prove capable of playing together in a jumbo lineup with Camara and Deni on the wing and Scoot at the point? Yang seems like he may have the skills to play out of the high post and if he can do it at the NBA level, why not try it every once in a while and see what the results are? The double big is making a comeback in the league.

The double big is coming back if one your bigs can shoot and dribble.

Clingan and Yang have no perimeter skills.

The idea of Yang is that he can become a poor man’s Sengun I suppose. Or at least I’d have hoped that’s the allure given the big draft capital spent on him

Weirdly I found myself liking his roll offense the most though, the post-up and face-up stuff is secondary to that. It is an odd fit.

[HadAnEffectHere]

Well, that could be the case, but what if they prove capable of playing together in a jumbo lineup with Camara and Deni on the wing and Scoot at the point? Yang seems like he may have the skills to play out of the high post and if he can do it at the NBA level, why not try it every once in a while and see what the results are? The double big is making a comeback in the league.

The double big is coming back if one your bigs can shoot and dribble.

Clingan and Yang have no perimeter skills.

The idea of Yang is that he can become a poor man’s Sengun I suppose. Or at least I’d have hoped that’s the allure given the big draft capital spent on him

Weirdly I found myself liking his roll offense the most though, the post-up and face-up stuff is secondary to that. It is an odd fit.

Yang can't get low at all like Sengun or Jokic or Embiid. No ball handling now or upside. He can't play in the NBA in general.

[JRoy]

The double big is coming back if one your bigs can shoot and dribble.

Clingan and Yang have no perimeter skills.

The idea of Yang is that he can become a poor man’s Sengun I suppose. Or at least I’d have hoped that’s the allure given the big draft capital spent on him

Weirdly I found myself liking his roll offense the most though, the post-up and face-up stuff is secondary to that. It is an odd fit.

Yang can't get low at all like Sengun or Jokic or Embiid. No ball handling now or upside. He can't play in the NBA in general.

Sig bet?

[EvanZ]

Mmmm Bop is so fun.

[TheFire]

The next Jokic was literally there for the taking.

[bucknut]

The next Jokic was literally there for the taking.

Better passer then jokic i think. He manages tight windows as good as ive seen.

His off the bounce game might be better then joker. The missed layup on the euro tonight was filthy

They already are using him as the hub like joker with the high pick and roll as the center of the offense. Portland knows what they are doing they are going to build around him. The picks he sets are very effective and one thing about his passing is his hand size....absolutely masive hands 11 inch. he has the one hand palm while overseeing the defense

[JRoy]

Where you at, haters?

[Dat2U]

I thought I really liked him when I had him ranked in the early 20s but clearly he's flashing why Portland said 'screw it' after drafting Clingan last year.

He's not Jokic but he's definitely got some floor mapping abilities and his processing is very good. Defensively, I see reason for optimism as well since he plays with physicality and moves his feet.

[CptCrunch]

Based on the last game, Yang is more advanced than Jokic at the same age. Of course you shouldn't compare developmental trajectories to someone (Jokic) who is likely a top 5 all time great in peak.

This kid is good on every level. Has play making, mentality/maturity and defense. There was a play with some perpetual fringe NBA scrub was getting flustered at him, Yang was laughing. When an opponent loses their cool, their basketball suffers.

And on top this kid is legit big at 7'1" without shoes with a 7'3" wingspan. Wingspan isn't the greatest but at least positive which is good for an East Asian prospect. You take previously high level passers like Sengun, who is 6'8" without shoes. There is a huge difference in size here.

[Braggins]

His biggest issue right now is probably conditioning. He was obviously winded at times in the game and they were playing him in short spurts. He looks like he can play though.

[peZt]

Based on the last game, Yang is more advanced than Jokic at the same age. Of course you shouldn't compare developmental trajectories to someone (Jokic) who is likely a top 5 all time great in peak.

This kid is good on every level. Has play making, mentality/maturity and defense. There was a play with some perpetual fringe NBA scrub was getting flustered at him, Yang was laughing. When an opponent loses their cool, their basketball suffers.

And on top this kid is legit big at 7'1" without shoes with a 7'3" wingspan. Wingspan isn't the greatest but at least positive which is good for an East Asian prospect. You take previously high level passers like Sengun, who is 6'8" without shoes. There is a huge difference in size here.

Jokic at Yangs age was MVP of the ABA league and many thought he would’ve been a top 10 pick if drafted a year later (at Yangs age now)

[Waynearchetype]

Based on the last game, Yang is more advanced than Jokic at the same age. Of course you shouldn't compare developmental trajectories to someone (Jokic) who is likely a top 5 all time great in peak.

This kid is good on every level. Has play making, mentality/maturity and defense. There was a play with some perpetual fringe NBA scrub was getting flustered at him, Yang was laughing. When an opponent loses their cool, their basketball suffers.

And on top this kid is legit big at 7'1" without shoes with a 7'3" wingspan. Wingspan isn't the greatest but at least positive which is good for an East Asian prospect. You take previously high level passers like Sengun, who is 6'8" without shoes. There is a huge difference in size here.

Jokic at Yangs age was MVP of the ABA league and many thought he would’ve been a top 10 pick if drafted a year later (at Yangs age now)

Yang is younger than Jokic during his first summer league by a few months though. Both played SL when they were 20, Yangs BDay was day of draft, Jokics was in February. So that doesn't make a lot of sense.

Jokic also had a pretty bad SL, which should be a reminder to take it with a grain of salt. He only averaged 1.4 assists and shot poorly. Yang looks awesome so far for all the flack Blazers got, but it is just summer league. Haven't seen a big man pass like him in Summer League before though, not even Jokic. Maybe Ben Simmons if he counts.

[bucknut]

Based on the last game, Yang is more advanced than Jokic at the same age. Of course you shouldn't compare developmental trajectories to someone (Jokic) who is likely a top 5 all time great in peak.

This kid is good on every level. Has play making, mentality/maturity and defense. There was a play with some perpetual fringe NBA scrub was getting flustered at him, Yang was laughing. When an opponent loses their cool, their basketball suffers.

And on top this kid is legit big at 7'1" without shoes with a 7'3" wingspan. Wingspan isn't the greatest but at least positive which is good for an East Asian prospect. You take previously high level passers like Sengun, who is 6'8" without shoes. There is a huge difference in size here.

I really think we are looking at the next super super star. Think of the marketability - from China , and his personality - his joyful outgoing on and off the court. He has that it quality. Could have Jordan effect

Yao was not this marketable , to the on court animation or aggression.

Shot blocking - yangs shot blocking is levels better then jokic and senguin.

The only thing jokic clearly had over yang at this stage was shooting he was was shooting a good amount of threes. Maybe a better rebounder.

I dont think yang takes a backstep to jokic anywhere else and has a few significant edges

I have to say when yang scores it is a thing of beauty and poetry in motion. The footwork is still being underrated. I think he his footwork is better then jokic. I think he looks more fluid then jokic

[Waynearchetype]

Watch on YouTube

[amcoolio]

The passing and shotblocking from someone that size is so unique. (i know its just one game) but clearly should have been a lottery pick, and Pelicans, Bulls, Toronto have to be kicking themselves because he would be so perfect for all three of those teams

[ReggiesKnicks]

Based on the last game, Yang is more advanced than Jokic at the same age. Of course you shouldn't compare developmental trajectories to someone (Jokic) who is likely a top 5 all time great in peak.

This kid is good on every level. Has play making, mentality/maturity and defense. There was a play with some perpetual fringe NBA scrub was getting flustered at him, Yang was laughing. When an opponent loses their cool, their basketball suffers.

And on top this kid is legit big at 7'1" without shoes with a 7'3" wingspan. Wingspan isn't the greatest but at least positive which is good for an East Asian prospect. You take previously high level passers like Sengun, who is 6'8" without shoes. There is a huge difference in size here.

Jokic played at an All-Star level in 1700 total minutes during his rookie year.

Jokic was All-NBA caliber by his Age 21 season, his 2nd season.

Jokic was MVP caliber in 2019, this 3rd season.

We will see if Yang's trajectory is this steep. Like all GOAT and most All-Time Great players, Jokic quickly rose to an incredible high Prime level.

Sengun has leveled off to a level only better than Jokic's rookie season, which is still a low-end All-Star but not a clear All-NBA level.

[Waynearchetype]

Based on the last game, Yang is more advanced than Jokic at the same age. Of course you shouldn't compare developmental trajectories to someone (Jokic) who is likely a top 5 all time great in peak.

This kid is good on every level. Has play making, mentality/maturity and defense. There was a play with some perpetual fringe NBA scrub was getting flustered at him, Yang was laughing. When an opponent loses their cool, their basketball suffers.

And on top this kid is legit big at 7'1" without shoes with a 7'3" wingspan. Wingspan isn't the greatest but at least positive which is good for an East Asian prospect. You take previously high level passers like Sengun, who is 6'8" without shoes. There is a huge difference in size here.

Jokic played at an All-Star level in 1700 total minutes during his rookie year.

Jokic was All-NBA caliber by his Age 21 season, his 2nd season.

Jokic was MVP caliber in 2019, this 3rd season.

We will see if Yang's trajectory is this steep. Like all GOAT and most All-Time Great players, Jokic quickly rose to an incredible high Prime level.

Sengun has leveled off to a level only better than Jokic's rookie season, which is still a low-end All-Star but not a clear All-NBA level.

10 pts 7 rbs 2 assists is all star level?
I'm a jokic fan but this is a bit revisionist.

[ReggiesKnicks]

Based on the last game, Yang is more advanced than Jokic at the same age. Of course you shouldn't compare developmental trajectories to someone (Jokic) who is likely a top 5 all time great in peak.

This kid is good on every level. Has play making, mentality/maturity and defense. There was a play with some perpetual fringe NBA scrub was getting flustered at him, Yang was laughing. When an opponent loses their cool, their basketball suffers.

And on top this kid is legit big at 7'1" without shoes with a 7'3" wingspan. Wingspan isn't the greatest but at least positive which is good for an East Asian prospect. You take previously high level passers like Sengun, who is 6'8" without shoes. There is a huge difference in size here.

Jokic played at an All-Star level in 1700 total minutes during his rookie year.

Jokic was All-NBA caliber by his Age 21 season, his 2nd season.

Jokic was MVP caliber in 2019, this 3rd season.

We will see if Yang's trajectory is this steep. Like all GOAT and most All-Time Great players, Jokic quickly rose to an incredible high Prime level.

Sengun has leveled off to a level only better than Jokic's rookie season, which is still a low-end All-Star but not a clear All-NBA level.

10 pts 7 rbs 2 assists is all star level?
I'm a jokic fan but this is a bit revisionist.

20th in BPM
21st in PER
17th in WS/48

His rate was All-Star level but he didn't have the minutes or overall usage.

His +/- was also incredible.